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The We Believe Warriors made history on the court by beating the top seeded Mavericks as an eighth seed. Speaking of seeds and eighths, a lot of the players, coaches, and commentators from this game were involved with marijuana in some way. They all had different experiences with cannabis and represent the wide range of outcomes for NBA figures with pot. If you missed our breakdown of the game, check out our last episode. Show NotesEthan Sherwood Strauss’s story about smoking pot with Don Nelson ($)Don Nelson: “I’ve been smoking some pot”If you want to learn more about Al Harrington’s business, watch this video. If you want see him hot box a car, watch his appearance on the smokebox. Article about Matt Barnes being cannabis hero. Matt Barnes’s story about the party after the game. Steve Kerr: MASTER BLUNT ROLLER Get on the email list at ballthroughtheages.substack.com

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In 2007, the We Believe Warriors made history. They became just the 3rd 8-seed to ever beat a 1-seed in the NBA playoffs and the first to do so in a 7-game series. Alex and Gabe break down how the Warriors went from 9 games under .500 to an all-time playoff upset in a single month. They also talk about Stephen Jackson’s massive game, Charles Barkley’s sadness over having to watch basketball, and Austin Croshere for some reason. Subscribe to the show on substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com. Follow us on twitter: @ballthroughages.

Show Notes

* Full game on YouTube

* Recap of last regular season game between Warriors and Mavericks

* Great video of Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes talking about how the team related to the city

* Story of why the Pacers needed to trade Stephen Jackson

* We forgot to mention that Don Nelson was feuding with Mark Cuban after leaving Dallas

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In 2007, the We Believe Warriors made history. They became just the 3rd 8-seed to ever beat a 1-seed in the NBA playoffs and the first to do so in a 7-game series. Alex and Gabe break down how the Warriors went from 9 games under .500 to an all-time playoff upset in a single month. They also talk about Stephen Jackson’s massive game, Charles Barkley’s sadness over having to watch basketball, and Austin Croshere for some reason. Subscribe to the show on substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com. Follow us on twitter: @ballthroughages. Show NotesFull game on YouTubeRecap of last regular season game between Warriors and MavericksGreat video of Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes talking about how the team related to the city Story of why the Pacers needed to trade Stephen Jackson We forgot to mention that Don Nelson was feuding with Mark Cuban after leaving Dallas Get on the email list at ballthroughtheages.substack.com

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The Jail Blazers and the Nash-Nowitzki Mavs were two of the most interesting teams of the early 2000s. The Nash and Nowitzki pairing with Don Nelson at the helm pushed offense to new heights as the rest of the league lagged behind. The Jail Blazers had one of the most interesting motley crews in league history led by Rasheed Wallace. In 2003, these teams made history as Portland became the 3rd team to ever forced a Game 7 after going down 3-0. Alex and Gabe breakdown Game 7 of that series, the legacies of these teams, and talk a lot about Arvydas Sabonis and Bill Walton. Subscribe to our newsletter on substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com.

Show Notes

* Here’s the Sabonis video where Alex found the comment about Sabonis being “Nikola Jokic trapped in David Robinson’s body.”

* Speaking of Robinson, here’s a clip of Sabonis destroying him in 1986.

* The fat baby named Alex Lange that we mentioned did end up getting healthcare, but there’s a new Alex Lange who is pretty famous and we’re not sure why.

* CORRECTION: It was actually Ross Perot Jr. who sold the Mavs to Mark Cuban.

* Read Dirk talk about the Mavs break-up with Steve Nash where Dirk calls him “Nashy” the whole time.

* Bill Simmons’s preview of the 2003 playoffs is a fun re-read.

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The Jail Blazers and the Nash-Nowitzki Mavs were two of the most interesting teams of the early 2000s. The Nash and Nowitzki pairing with Don Nelson at the helm pushed offense to new heights as the rest of the league lagged behind. The Jail Blazers had one of the most interesting motley crews in league history led by Rasheed Wallace. In 2003, these teams made history as Portland became the 3rd team to ever forced a Game 7 after going down 3-0. Alex and Gabe breakdown Game 7 of that series, the legacies of these teams, and talk a lot about Arvydas Sabonis and Bill Walton. Subscribe to our newsletter on substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com. Show Notes Here’s the Sabonis video where Alex found the comment about Sabonis being “Nikola Jokic trapped in David Robinson’s body.”Speaking of Robinson, here’s a clip of Sabonis destroying him in 1986.The fat baby named Alex Lange that we mentioned did end up getting healthcare, but there’s a new Alex Lange who is pretty famous and we’re not sure why. CORRECTION: It was actually Ross Perot Jr. who sold the Mavs to Mark Cuban.Read Dirk talk about the Mavs break-up with Steve Nash where Dirk calls him “Nashy” the whole time. Bill Simmons’s preview of the 2003 playoffs is a fun re-read. Get on the email list at ballthroughtheages.substack.com

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Gene Chizik is part of one of the most elite groups in College Football history: National Championship winning coaches. Yet, Chizik got fired just two years after winning the title with Auburn and still hasn’t gotten another head coaching job. He is almost unanimously regarded as the worst coach to get a ring. Gabe and Alex examine Chizik’s legacy, whether he’s a good coach or just lucky, and what his career teaches us. Let us know what you think on twitter: @ballthroughages. Subscribe to our substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com.

Show Notes:

* The Larry Coker story from the intro

* A redditor explains the Auburn coaching search when Chizik was hired

* WE NEED A LEADER NOT A LOSER video

* The Athletic’s Justin Ferguson breakdown of 2010 Auburn

* Article from the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier on Chizik being on the hot seat at ISU

* Des Moises Register on Chizik leaving Iowa State

* Video about following his kids to Spring Break

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Gene Chizik is part of one of the most elite groups in College Football history: National Championship winning coaches. Yet, Chizik got fired just two years after winning the title with Auburn and still hasn’t gotten another head coaching job. He is almost unanimously regarded as the worst coach to get a ring. Gabe and Alex examine Chizik’s legacy, whether he’s a good coach or just lucky, and what his career teaches us. Let us know what you think on twitter: @ballthroughages. Subscribe to our substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com.Show Notes: The Larry Coker story from the intro A redditor explains the Auburn coaching search when Chizik was hiredWE NEED A LEADER NOT A LOSER videoThe Athletic’s Justin Ferguson breakdown of 2010 AuburnArticle from the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier on Chizik being on the hot seat at ISUDes Moises Register on Chizik leaving Iowa StateVideo about following his kids to Spring Break Get on the email list at ballthroughtheages.substack.com

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#2 Kansas vs #4 Missouri playing for a spot in the Big 12 Championship game. The game defied all college football logic and any predictions for the 2007 season. Despite being a seminal moment from the craziest CFB season in recent memory, the game didn’t really effect the outcome of the season. In this episode, Alex and Gabe explain why that is perfectly on-brand for this rivalry and what this game has in common with the actual Border War fought in the 1860s. Subscribe to us on substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com.

Stuff that didn’t make it

* Quantrill’s raid and the sacking of Lawrence

* We skated over what got Mark Mangino fired at Kansas, but it’s worth remembering how much of a jerk he is:

* On the flip side, Gary Pinkel had to step down in 2015 to battle non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Everyone at Missouri still loves him and he seems like a great dude. Pinkel recently started a foundation for cancer research.

Sources

* Full game on youtube

* The Civil War Podcast on Bleeding Kansas (Warning: this podcast is very much a history podcast unlike us two bozos)

* SBNation’s Bill Connelly on the game

* New York Times’s Pete Thamel and Thayer Evans on Missouri being #1

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#2 Kansas vs #4 Missouri playing for a spot in the Big 12 Championship game. The game defied all college football logic and any predictions for the 2007 season. Despite being a seminal moment from the craziest CFB season in recent memory, the game didn’t really effect the outcome of the season. In this episode, Alex and Gabe explain why that is perfectly on-brand for this rivalry and what this game has in common with the actual Border War fought in the 1860s. Subscribe to us on substack: ballthroughtheages.substack.com. Stuff that didn’t make itQuantrill’s raid and the sacking of Lawrence We skated over what got Mark Mangino fired at Kansas, but it’s worth remembering how much of a jerk he is: On the flip side, Gary Pinkel had to step down in 2015 to battle non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Everyone at Missouri still loves him and he seems like a great dude. Pinkel recently started a foundation for cancer research. Sources Full game on youtube The Civil War Podcast on Bleeding Kansas (Warning: this podcast is very much a history podcast unlike us two bozos)SBNation’s Bill Connelly on the gameNew York Times’s Pete Thamel and Thayer Evans on Missouri being #1 Get on the email list at ballthroughtheages.substack.com

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The 1960 College Football season was one of the wildest and weirdest seasons in the sport’s history. Ole Miss and Minnesota are the two teams claiming the national championship, which should prove the previous statement. Alex and Gabe get into which team should actually be crowned the 1960 champion and a bunch of other weird stories from this season, including how Purdue finished in the top 15 with a 4-4-1 record, a bribery scandal, and the worst player to win the Most Outstanding Passer award. Subscribe to the podcast at ballthroughtheages.substack.com. Graphics by @wlohaty (Tom Brown featured). *Important note: This episode was recorded two weeks ago so we’ve been in quaratine for far longer than we said.*

Show Outline

* Who are the challengers for the title and what is their claim? 

* Weirdest thing to happen in this season 

* Kansas plays the #1 team three times

* A UF-FSU Bribery scheme

* The winless Sammy Baugh winner

* Let’s eliminate some teams. 

* Who didn't play anybody?

* Who has a disqualifying loss?

* Two teams eliminated

* Who wins the title?

* Apply Playoff

* Apply the selection at the time (before bowls) 

* Apply selection after the bowls

Stuff that didn’t make it

* There was supposed to be a new bowl game in this season: the Gotham Bowl in Yankee Stadium. But it was cancelled after Army and Air Force pulled out. The next year, the Gotham Bowl would secure Oregon State only to have no opponent for the Beavers. After a two-year run in ‘62 and ‘63, the bowl folded.

* Pitt’s Mike Ditka finished 6th in Heisman voting.

Sources

* TipTop25 re-ranked this season and choose a champion. This site has amazing breakdowns of seasons like this one.

* This Iowa football hype video from 1960 is an absolute must watch. It’s where we got two of the sounds for this podcast.

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