In this follow-up submariner episode, Kyle welcomes back co-host Eric Mason and special guest Matt Larabee, a fellow USS Alaska submariner, for an unfiltered dive into life beneath the waves. Matt recounts his journey from a Southern California high school quarterback to volunteering for the Navy’s submarine force, spurred by a mix of youthful uncertainty and a friend’s boot camp video. From surviving the chaos of boot camp—including the infamous penicillin shot—to facing near-catastrophic incidents at sea, like a crewmember’s attempt to sabotage the USS Wyoming, Matt’s stories are raw, hilarious, and eye-opening. The trio explores the camaraderie of the smoke pit, the grind of 18-hour submarine days, and how the Navy’s structure fueled Matt’s post-service success, including earning two bachelor’s degrees and an MBA from Purdue. Packed with wild tales and hard-earned wisdom, this episode offers a rare glimpse into the submarine world and the lasting impact of service.

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In the third episode of The Trading Unlocked miniseries, host Kyle and psychotherapist Sean Sawyer tackle shame in trading. They explore shame's evolutionary roots as a tool for social cohesion, its double-edged impact on self-worth, and how it can manifest as self-sabotage like revenge trading or overconfidence. Sean introduces schema therapy to reframe shame, emphasizing visualization techniques and reframing internal voices for emotional maturity. Listeners learn practical strategies to desensitize shame responses and build resilience. Part of the series on trading emotions, this episode offers actionable insights for traders struggling with self-doubt. Check out previous episodes on fear and greed, and join Sean's free Discord for live recordings.

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Sean Sawyer, a licensed psychotherapist since 2003, whose journey into the world of stock trading in the mid-2010s led him to become a full-time trader by 2017. Sean’s unique expertise lies at the intersection of psychology and trading, blending his in-depth understanding of human behavior with practical trading experience in shared trading commons, options, and futures.

Sean’s work in psychological trauma has been pivotal in shaping his approach to performance psychology. With a rich background in clinical settings, hospitals, universities, and private practice, he excels in helping individuals manage real and perceived threats—skills that are crucial for decision-making in high-pressure situations. His performance coaching, which began in 2010, spans corporate professionals, athletes, and performers, focusing on the mastery of threat response and resilience.

Known for his candid, evidence-based approach, Sean emphasizes the importance of confronting and transforming deep-seated patterns and beliefs. His performance coaching bridges the challenges of psychological resilience and high-stakes decision-making, offering invaluable insights for thriving in both personal and professional arenas.

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In this episode of Band of Traders, host Kyle chats with traders Baba Yaga and Fleri about trading discipline, life updates, and a controversial new tax bill. Baba Yaga shares his return to trading rooms after his kids start school, emphasizing mental clarity from reduced screen time. Fleri discusses the challenges of sticking to trading rules to avoid emotional tilt and revenge trading. The group dives into the 2025 tax bill's 90% loss deduction cap, exploring its impact on poker pros, high-volume gamblers, and potential ripple effects for prop firms and day traders. With candid insights on risk management, gambling ecosystems, and bourbon banter, this episode offers practical advice for traders navigating discipline and regulatory changes.

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Baba Yaga:

Solving problems, helping set goals, and refining processes is the bulk of Baba's passion. He does that in many contexts ranging from nonprofits to real estate firms and everything in between. He focuses on market structure through the lens of TPO charting and executes based on volume, misplaced large orders, and delta. He loves the opening range breakout and typically trades the market from the “inside out”. 

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Fleri:

Fleri is a seasoned trader whose journey began in the early days of crypto exchanges and mid-cap stocks. Evolving over time, he redirected his focus to futures and intraday trading, specifically honing his expertise in ES, NQ, RTY, CL, and UB. His approach is deeply rooted in Market Auction Theory, navigating the market by tracking participants through a nuanced blend of pattern recognition and the confluence of Price Action and Order Flow.

At the heart of Fleri's trading philosophy is a meticulous plan of execution, identifying areas for the auction to potentially seek value. Leveraging Order Flow and Price Action, he capitalizes on opportunities that present themselves throughout the trading day. Fleri is not just a trader; he's a dedicated educator, sharing his insights through podcasts, Twitter, and Discord to support fellow traders on their journeys.

What sets Fleri apart is not only his technical prowess but also his lighthearted approach and transparency about both past and current struggles. In the complex world of trading, Fleri brings not only expertise but also a relatable and open demeanor, creating a supportive environment for traders to learn and thrive.

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In this week’s episode of Band of Traders, Kyle, Bear and Shopkeeper Dan dive into the latest macro-economic events with their signature blend of cynicism and humor. The trio discusses Fed Governor Adriana Kugler’s sudden resignation, speculating on its implications for Trump’s influence over Federal Reserve policy. They unpack the BLS commissioner’s firing over a weak jobs report, critiquing the political spin behind economic data and its market impact. Kyle shares a humorous mix-up over Panama’s lawsuit involving Cosco (not Costco), highlighting geopolitical tensions over the Panama Canal. Bear reflects on disciplined trading, avoiding FOMC volatility, while Daniel offers witty takes on corporate overreach. The episode wraps with a hilarious review of the new Naked Gun movie, starring Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson. Packed with sharp market analysis and laugh-out-loud banter, this episode is a must-listen for traders navigating today’s complex markets.

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Bear:

Bear made the transition from investing to trading at the beginning of COVID. After initial success with options, he quickly learned that his luck was greater than his skill and shifted his focus to futures. Bear has fully embraced the role of emotions and mental capital with the mindset that trading futures is purely an internal struggle that rewards patience, calm, bravery, focus, passion, and commitment. Beyond markets Bear finds joy in his community as a volunteer firefighter and EMT.

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Dan:

Dan co-founded 2 Bulls in a China Shop with Kyle when their shared passion for active trading ignited during the lockdowns. Their daily discussions about trades, interests, and the valuable lessons learned created the bedrock for what eventually evolved into both the 2 Bulls in a China Shop and Band of Traders podcasts.

While navigating the complexities of trading, Dan infused humor into the shows with his self-deprecating wit and candid discussions about their trading experiences. This dynamic duo's chemistry became the catalyst for a podcast that resonated widely, capturing the attention of a diverse audience.

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In this insightful episode of Band of Traders, Kyle hosts traders Baba Yaga, Bear Goes Long, and special guest Richard Friesen, author of A Private Conversation with Money, to explore the psychological layers of trading and managing burnout. Baba Yaga reflects on stepping back from live trading rooms, revealing how reduced screen time and a focus on family restored mental clarity and improved his trading performance. Bear shares his disciplined approach to trading within a one-hour window, emphasizing process over outcome to curb emotional tie. Richard introduces his "golden keys" framework—awareness, acceptance, agency, and process focus—to help traders navigate self-doubt and external pressures. The group discusses the pitfalls of tying self-worth to P&L, the power of physiological "tells" in trading, and aligning trades with deeper life values. Packed with practical strategies and candid stories, this episode offers traders a roadmap to sustainable success and emotional resilience.

Stop It - Bob Newhart

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Rich Friesen:

Richard Friesen works with professionals and business leaders who want to increase their personal effectiveness with joy and grace. His neuroscience based Mind Muscles™ model gives his clients the opportunity to reach their goals with online training, simulations, interactive exercises, group support and real time decision processes.

Richard has been a futures broker for Merrill Lynch, a floor trader on the CME, CBOT and the options floor of the Pacific Exchange where he built and sold a successful options trading firm where he served on the Exchange’s board of directors. He also founded and built a financial software company and is the inventor of ten significant trading interface patents. This combined with his Master’s Degree in Clinical Psychology, Neurolinguistic Programing Master’s certification and neuroscience focus, brings a unique framework to business, investing and career success. Rich recently published “A Private Conversation with Money,” which observes the main character “Joe” who deals with all the conflicts, self-sabotage and belief systems around money and wealth.

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Baba Yaga:

Solving problems, helping set goals, and refining processes is the bulk of Baba's passion. He does that in many contexts ranging from nonprofits to real estate firms and everything in between. He focuses on market structure through the lens of TPO charting and executes based on volume, misplaced large orders, and delta. He loves the opening range breakout and typically trades the market from the “inside out”. 

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Bear:

Bear made the transition from investing to trading at the beginning of COVID. After initial success with options, he quickly learned that his luck was greater than his skill and shifted his focus to futures. Bear has fully embraced the role of emotions and mental capital with the mindset that trading futures is purely an internal struggle that rewards patience, calm, bravery, focus, passion, and commitment. Beyond markets Bear finds joy in his community as a volunteer firefighter and EMT.

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Kyle and Sean take on one of the most seductive emotions in trading: greed. This second episode of Trading Unlocked unpacks how greed disguises itself as ambition or excitement and can quietly steer traders off-course—especially after a string of wins or the anticipation of a big move.

Sean offers a deep dive into the psychology of greed: why it shows up, how it functions in our nervous system, and how to differentiate a well-aligned impulse from a hijacked one. Kyle brings relatable examples of how greed has shown up in his own trading practice, making the episode highly accessible and grounded.

The discussion highlights the importance of pause, perspective, and presence, encouraging traders to bring curiosity rather than shame to their greed. They introduce strategies for checking in with your body, regulating arousal, and practicing self-compassion so you can make more centered decisions when temptation hits.

This episode will resonate with anyone who's felt the high of a hot streak—and the regret of chasing one too far.

🧠 Emotional mastery isn’t about eliminating greed. It’s about understanding it.

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This week Bear and Baba Yaga join Kyle to reflect on their recent shift toward fewer, more deliberate trades, emphasizing the mental clarity and freedom gained by stepping away from the screen. Baba Yaga shares how reducing time in front of charts (prioritizing family and personal life) has sharpened his decision-making, allowing him to trade with greater objectivity and less pressure. Bear discusses his focus on limiting trading to a one-hour window, celebrating small wins and avoiding overtrading, particularly in his Lucid evaluation account. The group delves into the psychological benefits of disciplined selectivity, the dangers of leaving excessive capital in trading accounts, and the importance of rewarding progress to stay motivated. With personal anecdotes and practical insights, this episode offers traders valuable strategies for sustainable, disciplined trading. Tune in for a candid discussion on balancing trading with life.

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Baba Yaga:

Solving problems, helping set goals, and refining processes is the bulk of Baba's passion. He does that in many contexts ranging from nonprofits to real estate firms and everything in between. He focuses on market structure through the lens of TPO charting and executes based on volume, misplaced large orders, and delta. He loves the opening range breakout and typically trades the market from the “inside out”. 

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Bear:

Bear made the transition from investing to trading at the beginning of COVID. After initial success with options, he quickly learned that his luck was greater than his skill and shifted his focus to futures. Bear has fully embraced the role of emotions and mental capital with the mindset that trading futures is purely an internal struggle that rewards patience, calm, bravery, focus, passion, and commitment. Beyond markets Bear finds joy in his community as a volunteer firefighter and EMT.

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In this unique episode, Kyle steps into the spotlight as his friend and Buck Starts Here cohost Eric Mason interviews him about his time in the U.S. Navy’s submarine service. From enlisting at 19 after a reflective moment at Walmart to serving as a nuclear electrician on a ballistic missile submarine, Kyle shares raw insights into the mental resilience required to thrive in the “Silent Service.” Hear about boot camp challenges, pranks like stealing the captain’s mattress, and the experience of test firing 3 Trident D5 SLBMs. With humor and candor, Kyle reflects on the skills, discipline, and perspective gained from living underwater for nearly a year across five patrols.

Anyone considering joining the US Navy that has any questions, please don’t hesitate to reach out via Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Discord or email!

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In the premiere of their new miniseries Trading Unlocked, Kyle and Sean dive deep into the emotional undercurrents of trading, starting with one of the most misunderstood and impactful emotions—fear. Rather than treating fear as a flaw to be eliminated, Sean reframes it as a functional, even necessary ally. Together, they explore how fear shapes our trading behaviors, from risk management to hesitation, and how it can serve as critical data rather than a threat to be suppressed.

Listeners will learn how to build awareness of their fear responses, utilize mindfulness to reframe those reactions, and even personify fear to create a more constructive relationship with it. The duo also shares tools like grounding techniques, self-compassion strategies, and the importance of “adding to the experience” rather than fighting emotions.

Whether you're a seasoned trader or just beginning to navigate the psychological side of markets, this episode offers relatable insights, practical takeaways, and a compelling start to a series that reimagines emotional intelligence as the ultimate trading edge.

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About Sean:

Sean Sawyer, a licensed psychotherapist since 2003, whose journey into the world of stock trading in the mid-2010s led him to become a full-time trader by 2017. Sean’s unique expertise lies at the intersection of psychology and trading, blending his in-depth understanding of human behavior with practical trading experience in shared trading commons, options, and futures.

Sean’s work in psychological trauma has been pivotal in shaping his approach to performance psychology. With a rich background in clinical settings, hospitals, universities, and private practice, he excels in helping individuals manage real and perceived threats—skills that are crucial for decision-making in high-pressure situations. His performance coaching, which began in 2010, spans corporate professionals, athletes, and performers, focusing on the mastery of threat response and resilience.

Known for his candid, evidence-based approach, Sean emphasizes the importance of confronting and transforming deep-seated patterns and beliefs. His performance coaching bridges the challenges of psychological resilience and high-stakes decision-making, offering invaluable insights for thriving in both personal and professional arenas.

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Shopkeeper Dan is back again, joining Kyle and Bear to discuss various headlines ranging from global cybersecurity incidents, Walmart’s role in stopping fraud, and the implications of AI in personal relationships. They explore the recent hacking of Iranian state TV, the rise of state-sponsored hacking, and the importance of securing digital assets. The conversation also delves into the emotional connections people form with AI, culminating in a humorous discussion about a man proposing to his AI chatbot girlfriend. they follow that up with a serious discussion on AI hallucinations leading to a defamation lawsuit against Google, and a not so serious debate on whether Elon Musk is a superhero or supervillain. They also explore the ethical responsibilities of companies like Walmart in preventing fraud and wrap up with a light-hearted story about espionage in the sausage industry.

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If you are interested in signing up with TRADEPRO Academy, you can use our affiliate link here. We receive compensation for any purchases made when using this link, so it's a great way to support the show and learn at the same time! **Use code CHINASHOP15 to save 15%**

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Bear:

Bear made the transition from investing to trading at the beginning of COVID. After initial success with options, he quickly learned that his luck was greater than his skill and shifted his focus to futures. Bear has fully embraced the role of emotions and mental capital with the mindset that trading futures is purely an internal struggle that rewards patience, calm, bravery, focus, passion, and commitment. Beyond markets Bear finds joy in his community as a volunteer firefighter and EMT.

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Dan:

Dan co-founded 2 Bulls in a China Shop with Kyle when their shared passion for active trading ignited during the lockdowns. Their daily discussions about trades, interests, and the valuable lessons learned created the bedrock for what eventually evolved into both the 2 Bulls in a China Shop and Band of Traders podcasts.

While navigating the complexities of trading, Dan infused humor into the shows with his self-deprecating wit and candid discussions about their trading experiences. This dynamic duo's chemistry became the catalyst for a podcast that resonated widely, capturing the attention of a diverse audience.

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