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This episode is sponsored by EMXETF.com

Kevin T. Carter joins Kyle to talk about TGRZ, the China AI LLM Tigers ETF, and why China’s role in the AI trade may be much bigger than most U.S. investors realize.

Kevin breaks down the AI market as a five-layer stack: electricity, chips, data centers, models, and applications. From there, he explains why TGRZ is focused on the model layer, where Chinese open-weight AI models like DeepSeek, Kimi K3, GLM, and Qwen are increasingly competing with U.S. models from OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and others.

The conversation also gets into one of the biggest surprises from the episode: how differently China and the U.S. appear to view AI adoption. Kevin points to public sentiment around AI being roughly 80% favorable in China versus about 20% in the U.S., and Kyle explores whether that difference in adoption could matter as much as the technology itself.

They also discuss Jack Ma, Alibaba, the blocked Ant IPO, and why Kevin believes some of the risks investors associate with China are more complicated (and possibly more overblown) than the headlines suggest.

The episode closes with a look at AI infrastructure, data centers, power demand, underwater and space-based compute, and the broader question of whether AI destroys jobs, creates new ones, or does some combination of both.

As always, none of this is investment advice. TGRZ is speculative and volatile. Do your own research, understand the risks, and make sure any investment fits your own strategy.

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• 00:00 — Cold Open: Why Chinese AI Models Are Different
• 00:35 — Introduction: Rethinking the AI Race
• 01:40 — TGRZ and What It Takes to Launch an ETF
• 04:03 — The Five-Layer AI Stack
• 06:25 — The Emerging Market “Mag Three”: Samsung, Hynix, and TSMC
• 07:34 — Why TGRZ Focuses on the AI Model Layer
• 08:03 — DeepSeek and the Cost Question
• 10:58 — What Open-Weight AI Actually Means
• 13:14 — Alibaba, Qwen, and China’s AI Ecosystem
• 15:23 — Why U.S. Startups Are Using Chinese AI Models
• 19:10 — Jack Ma, Ant IPO, and China Risk
• 27:42 — TGRZ Volatility and Future EMXETF AI Products
• 29:36 — Data Centers, Power Demand, and AI Infrastructure
• 33:54 — AI Sentiment: China’s 80% Favorable vs. the U.S. at 20%
• 36:50 — AI, Jobs, ATMs, Radiology, and What Comes Next
• 40:08 — EMXETF.com, TGRZ Risk, and Closing Thoughts

For more than 20 years, the EMXETF team has been focused on technology and innovation across Emerging Markets. Today, we believe artificial intelligence represents the next major chapter of that growth story. From advanced semiconductors and AI infrastructure to models, applications and digital platforms, Emerging Markets are playing an increasingly important role in the global AI ecosystem. EMXETF combines our deep experience in these markets with focused research to give investors targeted exposure to the companies helping shape the future of AI.

Kevin T. Carter is the Founder & Chief Investment Officer of EMXETF. While he considers himself an active “value” investor first and foremost, he has collaborated with Princeton economist and indexing legend, Dr. Burton Malkiel, for more than 20 years. Their work together began in 1999 with the development of eInvesting, a pioneer firm in fractional share brokerage that was acquired by ETRADE in 2000. In 2002 they founded Active Index Advisors, a pioneer in so-called “direct indexing” that was acquired by Natixis Asset Management in 2005. In 2006, their efforts turned to China and Emerging Markets with Dr. Malkiel’s publishing of “Investment Strategies to Exploit Economic Growth in China” and the subsequent book From Wall Street to the Great Wall. Working with Guggenheim Partners, they launched several China focused ETFs on the NYSE.

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In this episode, Kyle sits down with Cam to break down another piece of his trading system: the RSI strategy.

Unlike Gap and Go, which is built around momentum and breakouts, this setup is a mean-reversion strategy. The idea is simple: find strong stocks that are temporarily oversold, then look for the bounce.

Cam walks through how he uses a two-period RSI, why he looks for signals below 10, and how he exits once RSI recovers. He also explains why this works better on large-cap, institutionally supported names (especially Nasdaq 100 stocks) and why it falls apart when applied to smaller, lower-quality names.

The conversation also covers how RSI fits into a broader portfolio of strategies alongside Gap and Go, Close/Open, and Opening Range Break. Cam explains why diversifying by strategy can create a smoother equity curve, keep capital working in different market conditions, and reduce reliance on any single setup.

They also get into the practical side: how to size the trade, why earnings create the biggest tail risk, whether stop losses help or hurt, how options can be used to define risk, what delta and expiration ranges make sense, and why selling puts may be another way to express the same idea.

This episode is a deeper look at building a full trading system... Not just finding one setup but stacking strategies that complement each other.

• 00:00 — Why Diversifying Strategies Matters
• 00:49 — RSI Strategy Overview and Where the Signal Comes From
• 03:22 — Close/Open, Overnight Returns, and Unused Capital
• 05:17 — Applying RSI to Individual Stocks
• 06:30 — Entry and Exit Rules for the RSI Setup
• 07:35 — Why RSI Works Better on Large-Cap Names
• 09:27 — Filters: Nasdaq 100, 200-Day Strength, and Moving Averages
• 10:40 — Strategy Diversification: Gap and Go, Close/Open, and RSI
• 13:19 — Choosing Between RSI and Gap and Go
• 15:24 — Managing Risk Without Traditional Stop Losses
• 18:31 — Coca-Cola Example: RSI Signal, Options, and Rolling Winners
• 20:10 — Using Options to Define Risk
• 24:06 — Volatility, IV Crush, and Selling Puts
• 27:12 — Backtesting, Survivorship Bias, and AI
• 29:15 — Sizing Correctly, Avoiding Earnings, and Final Rules

Our podcast is sponsored by Sue Maki at Fairway Independent Mortgage (MLS# 206048). Licensed in 38 states, if you need anything mortgage-related, reach out to her at [email protected] or give her a call at (520) 977-7904. Tell her 2 Bulls sent you to get the best rates available!

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Cam is a Navy veteran & management consultant turned 8 figure investor & trader. Trading let him retire at 35 & be able to support and provide for his family forever. Now he wants to help others escape the financial system and live the way we were meant to live: free. His system is a rule-based design that can be used for long term investing, swing trading or option selling on any schedule.

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This week we let ChatGPT help pick the news stories (which seemed like a good idea at the time), and honestly, it kind of worked.

We start with Russia reportedly having to buy gasoline after Ukrainian drone strikes hit their refinery capacity, which turns into a bigger conversation about energy markets, gasoline and diesel, and how cheap drones are completely changing the math of modern warfare.

Then we get into Japan potentially pushing its giant pension funds to bring more money back home, the AI trade still running through SK Hynix and GPU demand, and the Fed now treating AI infrastructure spending as one of the things keeping inflation hotter than expected.

So there is real market stuff in here.

But also, this is Dan and me, so we also talk about a squirrel getting loose in a Meta office, a bear breaking into a shopping mall on a military base, Britain trying to survive heat waves with better refrigerators and tiny fans, Pepsi making a very questionable Wild Cherry post in India, AI reading ancient Roman scrolls, Pompeii, Pink Floyd, and whether Wendy’s Biggie Bag is secretly one of the better recession trades on the board.

• 00:00 — Hook, Intro, and Cold Open
• 01:47 — Welcome Back to the China Shop
• 02:30 — Letting ChatGPT Pick the News
• 03:22 — Russia’s Fuel Problem and Ukrainian Drone Strikes
• 06:36 — EVs, Refinery Risk, and Energy Independence
• 09:10 — A Squirrel Gets Loose at Meta
• 14:28 — Japan’s Pension Fund and Money Coming Home
• 20:08 — The Alaska Mall Bear Story
• 21:54 — SK Hynix, AI Chips, and Inflation Pressure
• 25:24 — FedWatch, Rate Expectations, and No Cuts Yet
• 27:38 — Britain’s Heat Wave Economy
• 32:49 — Scottsdale Will Pay for Your Lawn, Not Your Pool
• 34:29 — Pepsi’s Wild Cherry Problem
• 38:33 — AI, Ancient Scrolls, and the Pompeii Detour
• 42:28 — Wendy’s, Biggie Bags, and Takeover Rumors
• 48:38 — Jobs, Rent, and the Economy People Actually Feel
• 50:30 — Chessferatu and Closing Thoughts

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Dan co-founded 2 Bulls in a China Shop with Kyle when their shared passion for active trading ignited during the lockdowns. Their daily discussions about trades, interests, and the valuable lessons learned created the bedrock for what eventually evolved into both the 2 Bulls in a China Shop and Band of Traders podcasts.

While navigating the complexities of trading, Dan infused humor into the shows with his self-deprecating wit and candid discussions about their trading experiences. This dynamic duo's chemistry became the catalyst for a podcast that resonated widely, capturing the attention of a diverse audience.

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Kyle and Dan start with the June Fed meeting, rate cut expectations, and the problem with central banks refusing to give clear guidance. Then the conversation jumps from Russia’s interest rates and Ukraine’s drone warfare to Waymo recalls, delivery robots ignoring police orders, and whether old cruise-control stories were actually just time travelers making bad assumptions.

They also dig into the SpaceX IPO, Elon Musk’s supervillain status, data centers in space, AI simulations, media consolidation, Sam Bankman-Fried’s pardon request, stablecoin ID checks, and whether crypto actually has useful applications beyond speculation.

By the end, they’re debating blockchain use cases, Bitcoin mining as a heating system, data center energy demand, coal, Santa Claus, and why Dan’s mom once ruined Christmas coal by soaking it in water. It’s might as well be an afterhours episode…

• 00:00 - Cold Open & Introduction
• 01:40 - Bernie Sanders’ AI Wealth Fund Idea
• 05:18 - The Fed, Rate Cuts, and Forward Guidance
• 07:33 - Russia’s Central Bank and Ukraine Drone Warfare
• 11:28 - Waymo Recalls and Robots Behaving Badly
• 17:00 - SpaceX IPO and Elon’s Supervillain Arc
• 25:01 - Space Data Centers, AI Simulations, and Future Tech
• 29:48 - Paramount, Warner Bros. Discovery, and Media Consolidation
• 35:07 - Sam Bankman-Fried Applies for a Pardon
• 42:27 - Stablecoin ID Checks and Crypto Regulation
• 45:02 - What Blockchain Might Actually Be Useful For
• 51:44 - Bitcoin Mining, Data Centers, and Energy Demand
• 55:21 - Wet Coal, Santa Claus, and Closing Chaos

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Dan co-founded 2 Bulls in a China Shop with Kyle when their shared passion for active trading ignited during the lockdowns. Their daily discussions about trades, interests, and the valuable lessons learned created the bedrock for what eventually evolved into both the 2 Bulls in a China Shop and Band of Traders podcasts.

While navigating the complexities of trading, Dan infused humor into the shows with his self-deprecating wit and candid discussions about their trading experiences. This dynamic duo's chemistry became the catalyst for a podcast that resonated widely, capturing the attention of a diverse audience.

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In this episode, Cam and Joel go deeper into the force behind the Gap and Go strategy: momentum.

Cam breaks down what momentum actually means in the market, why stocks can get repriced violently when institutions realize they were wrong, and how that repricing shows up through gaps, volume, and continuation. Using examples like AGL and HWM, they walk through why some stocks keep running long after most traders would have taken profits.

The conversation also digs into the data behind momentum trading, including R multiples, maximum favorable excursion, Monte Carlo testing, and why a small percentage of trades can account for the majority of returns.

They also cover one of the hardest questions in trading: when do you take profits, and when do you let the trade keep working?

Later in the episode, Cam explains how he’s using AI, backtesting, and his own trade history to study momentum, refine his process, and better understand where rules end and human judgment begins.

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• 00:00 — Introduction
• 01:00 — Momentum Trading vs Other Trading Styles
• 04:00 — AGL Example: When the Market Gets Repriced
• 09:00 — Gap and Go Data: R Multiples and Continuation
• 12:20 — MFE, Breakeven Stops, and Momentum Fading
• 15:00 — Holding Winners vs Taking Profits Too Early
• 19:55 — Monte Carlo Testing: Why a Few Trades Drive Returns
• 23:25 — Silver, Gold, Tesla, ASML, and Reddit: Cam’s Biggest Trades
• 25:15 — The Super Momentum Screener
• 28:05 — Using AI and Backtesting to Study Trading Rules
• 33:50 — R Multiples vs Percentage-Based Profit Targets
• 39:20 — Rethinking Profit Targets and Stop Rules
• 43:00 — Knowing When Momentum Has Died
• 45:20 — Balancing Win Rate, Drawdowns, and Big Returns
• 47:20 — Responsible AI Use Cases for Traders
• 49:40 — What’s Coming Next: Practical AI for Trading

Our podcast is sponsored by Sue Maki at Fairway Independent Mortgage (MLS# 206048). Licensed in 38 states, if you need anything mortgage-related, reach out to her at [email protected] or give her a call at (520) 977-7904. Tell her 2 Bulls sent you to get the best rates available!

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Cam is a Navy veteran & management consultant turned 8 figure investor & trader. Trading let him retire at 35 & be able to support and provide for his family forever. Now he wants to help others escape the financial system and live the way we were meant to live: free. His system is a rule-based design that can be used for long term investing, swing trading or option selling on any schedule.

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Joel is a power lineman, husband, and father of 2 wonderful daughters. He took up trading as a way of participating in the market more actively than buy and hold ETF investing. Joel has found a true passion in trading futures and would continue to do it even if he never earned (or lost) another dollar, he just enjoys the game. Along with that he has found a community that has grown on him beyond buddies and past friends to what he considers family. Joel's best friend is a doctor in the states he met through trading and have never met in person, while he is up in Canada.

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George Papazov from TRADEPRO Academy joins Kyle for a wide-ranging conversation about trading, decision-making, market uncertainty, and the changes happening inside TradePro.

George shares what’s new at TradePro Academy, including the move away from Discord, the launch of a cleaner community platform on Circle, and a simplified one-price membership structure. He also talks about how the trading education space has changed, why traders often overload themselves with too much information, and why simplifying your process can make decision-making easier.

Kyle and George also dig into order flow, the current market environment, the challenge of trading around geopolitical headlines, the role of AI in trading workflows, and the weird reality of trying to make decisions when every trade has an unknown outcome.

And because it’s George, the conversation also includes OnlyFans jokes, Florida iguanas, hockey, housing, Murphy’s Law, and why saying “please” to AI might be a future-proofing strategy.

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• 00:00 — Cold Open & Introduction: Raining Iguanas
• 02:01 — What’s New at TRADEPRO Academy
• 09:08 — Simplifying Trading & Avoiding Decision Fatigue
• 15:22 — Trading Scars, Stops & Disqualifying Bad Trades
• 20:05 — How George Trades Today: Portfolio Approach & Day Trading
• 21:23 — Using Order Flow in a Headline-Driven Market
• 25:04 — Bonds, Fed Policy, Housing & the Move to Florida
• 33:52 — Florida Life and the Iguana Rain Story
• 37:31 — AI in Trading, Automation & the Future of Intelligence
• 45:28 — Where to Find TRADEPRO Academy & Closing Thoughts

Our podcast is sponsored by Sue Maki at Fairway Independent Mortgage (MLS# 206048). Licensed in 38 states, if you need anything mortgage-related, reach out to her at [email protected] or give her a call at (520) 977-7904. Tell her 2 Bulls sent you to get the best rates available!

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George founded TradePro Academy in 2012 to inspire educate and empower at-home traders and investors. A self-made millionaire and entrepreneur, Papazov's self-published book Path to Profit: A Trader's Journal reached Amazon bestseller lists. With seven years of work for a major international bank, he is now an industry leader in trading currencies, stocks, options and futures. Papazov provides a daily Morning Market video update on YouTube, covering topics from OPEC and interest rates to stock updates and breaking market news. His popular video training tutorials include the TradingView Tutorial and How to Use Fibonacci Retracements.

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This episode is less of a trading lesson and more of a long overdue reunion.

Kyle reconnects with Baba and Fleri to catch up on everything that’s happened since winding down Vanta. The conversation jumps between markets, business, family life, and the realities of balancing trading with everything else.

Topics include:

• scaling franchise businesses from 1 to 13 stores
• real estate projects and property management
• why several of them are trading less, not more
• silver momentum trades and market conditions
• the chaos of trading during geopolitical headlines
• Tesla stories, parenting, fishing, and life updates
• and how their relationship with the market has changed overtime.

It’s part market discussion, part life conversation, and part old friends picking up where they left off.

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Chapters:

• 00:00 — Intro & Reunion Kickoff
• 02:00 — From 1 Franchise to 13 Stores
• 05:00 — Trading Less and Simplifying Systems
• 08:00 — Fishing, Family & Real Estate Projects
• 13:00 — Decision Fatigue and Everyday Systems
• 19:00 — Baba’s Best Trading Month Ever
• 23:00 — Why This Market Feels Irrational
• 28:00 — Futures, Volatility & Surviving the Rip
• 35:00 — The Fed, Bonds & Market Structure
• 43:00 — Why Sometimes the Best Trade Is No Trade
• 46:00 — Kids Growing Up, Proms & Parenting
• 50:00 — Excavators, Projects & Dad Life
• 55:00 — Tesla Stories & Closing Thoughts

Our podcast is sponsored by Sue Maki at Fairway Independent Mortgage (MLS# 206048). Licensed in 38 states, if you need anything mortgage-related, reach out to her at [email protected] or give her a call at (520) 977-7904. Tell her 2 Bulls sent you to get the best rates available!

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Solving problems, helping set goals, and refining processes is the bulk of Baba's passion. He does that in many contexts ranging from nonprofits to real estate firms and everything in between. He focuses on market structure through the lens of TPO charting and executes based on volume, misplaced large orders, and delta. He loves the opening range breakout and typically trades the market from the “inside out”. 

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Fleri is a seasoned trader whose journey began in the early days of crypto exchanges and mid-cap stocks. Evolving over time, he redirected his focus to futures and intraday trading, specifically honing his expertise in ES, NQ, RTY, CL, and UB. His approach is deeply rooted in Market Auction Theory, navigating the market by tracking participants through a nuanced blend of pattern recognition and the confluence of Price Action and Order Flow.

At the heart of Fleri's trading philosophy is a meticulous plan of execution, identifying areas for the auction to potentially seek value. Leveraging Order Flow and Price Action, he capitalizes on opportunities that present themselves throughout the trading day. Fleri is not just a trader; he's a dedicated educator, sharing his insights through podcasts, Twitter, and Discord to support fellow traders on their journeys.

What sets Fleri apart is not only his technical prowess but also his lighthearted approach and transparency about both past and current struggles. In the complex world of trading, Fleri brings not only expertise but also a relatable and open demeanor, creating a supportive environment for traders to learn and thrive.

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Most traders see a stock gap up 15–20% at the open and assume they missed the move.

This episode is about making that the beginning of the trade… not the end.

Cam and Joel break down the Gap and Go strategy: a momentum-based system designed to identify stocks that gap hard at the open and continue moving higher. The conversation covers the full framework, including:

• the exact screening criteria
• how to use the first 5-minute candle for entries
• stop placement and position sizing
• profit-taking rules based on risk multiples
• why float and volume matter
• and how the strategy was tested across thousands of trades over a 10-year period.

They also discuss:

• why the strategy works in both bull and bear markets
• how to manage a small account
• the role of institutional buying in momentum
• and why the best systems are often the most mechanical.

If you’ve ever struggled with chasing momentum (or skipping trades that never come back), this episode provides a structured framework for handling both.

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00:00 — Why Gap and Go Exists

04:00 — From Five Rules to Momentum Trading

07:00 — Screening for Gappers: Market Cap, Float & Momentum

13:00 — The First 5-Minute Candle Entry System

17:00 — Position Sizing, Stops & Risk Management

21:00 — Profit Targets, Trailing Stops & R Multiples

27:00 — Volume Confirmation & High-Momentum Trades

31:00 — Managing the Portfolio & Replacing Weak Trades

35:00 — Why Gap and Go Works in Any Market Environment

42:00 — Institutional Buying, Small Caps & Momentum

47:00 — Growing a Small Account with Mechanical Rules

52:00 — Homework: How to Practice the Strategy

Our podcast is sponsored by Sue Maki at Fairway Independent Mortgage (MLS# 206048). Licensed in 38 states, if you need anything mortgage-related, reach out to her at [email protected] or give her a call at (520) 977-7904. Tell her 2 Bulls sent you to get the best rates available!

If you are interested in signing up with TRADEPRO Academy, you can use our affiliate link here. We receive compensation for any purchases made when using this link, so it's a great way to support the show and learn at the same time! **Use code CHINASHOP15 to save 15%**

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Cam is a Navy veteran & management consultant turned 8 figure investor & trader. Trading let him retire at 35 & be able to support and provide for his family forever. Now he wants to help others escape the financial system and live the way we were meant to live: free. His system is a rule-based design that can be used for long term investing, swing trading or option selling on any schedule.

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Joel is a power lineman, husband, and father of 2 wonderful daughters. He took up trading as a way of participating in the market more actively than buy and hold ETF investing. Joel has found a true passion in trading futures and would continue to do it even if he never earned (or lost) another dollar, he just enjoys the game. Along with that he has found a community that has grown on him beyond buddies and past friends to what he considers family. Joel's best friend is a doctor in the states he met through trading and have never met in person, while he is up in Canada.

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Most traders focus on finding the perfect setup, but that’s not the hard part…

In this episode, Cam and Joel walk through real trades and real decisions; covering how to take profits, move stops, manage multiple positions, and decide when to rotate into something better.

They also zoom out to the bigger picture: position sizing, capital allocation, sector exposure, and how market conditions (not opinions) should drive your strategy.

If your entries are solid but your results aren’t, this is the missing piece.

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04:00 — Why Management Determines Outcomes (Not Entries)

08:30 — Moving Stops, Taking Profits, and Rule-Based Execution

13:00 — Handling “Blue Sky” Trades & Profit Targets (R Multiples)

17:30 — Managing Multiple Positions & Capital Constraints

23:30 — Position Sizing Mistakes and Portfolio Allocation

28:30 — When to Cut, Trim, or Replace a Trade

33:30 — Sector Exposure & Avoiding Over-Concentration

37:00 — Market Regime: 200-Day & 20-Day Rules

43:30 — Breadth Signals & Market Context

49:00 — Re-Entering the Market After a Downtrend

55:00 — Why the Market Already Prices the News

Our podcast is sponsored by Sue Maki at Fairway Independent Mortgage (MLS# 206048). Licensed in 38 states, if you need anything mortgage-related, reach out to her at [email protected] or give her a call at (520) 977-7904. Tell her 2 Bulls sent you to get the best rates available!

If you are interested in signing up with TRADEPRO Academy, you can use our affiliate link here. We receive compensation for any purchases made when using this link, so it's a great way to support the show and learn at the same time! **Use code CHINASHOP15 to save 15%**

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Cam is a Navy veteran & management consultant turned 8 figure investor & trader. Trading let him retire at 35 & be able to support and provide for his family forever. Now he wants to help others escape the financial system and live the way we were meant to live: free. His system is a rule-based design that can be used for long term investing, swing trading or option selling on any schedule.

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Joel is a power lineman, husband, and father of 2 wonderful daughters. He took up trading as a way of participating in the market more actively than buy and hold ETF investing. Joel has found a true passion in trading futures and would continue to do it even if he never earned (or lost) another dollar, he just enjoys the game. Along with that he has found a community that has grown on him beyond buddies and past friends to what he considers family. Joel's best friend is a doctor in the states he met through trading and have never met in person, while he is up in Canada.

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In this episode Cam and Joel break down how to actually build a trading watchlist, and more importantly, how to filter thousands of stocks down to the few that matter.

Cam walks through his full process:

• How to evaluate market conditions first
• The exact screeners he uses to find high-momentum stocks
• How to identify strong sectors and institutional money flow
• And how to organize watchlists into actionable trade opportunities

This is the missing step for most traders. It’s not just about knowing what a good setup looks like… it’s about knowing where and when to look for it.

⚠️ Best experienced on Spotify or YouTube - Cam is sharing charts throughout the episode.

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01:00 Why Market Conditions Come First

05:00 20-50-200 Day Rules for Trading Environment

10:30 When to Stop Trading (and Why Most People Don’t)

12:30 Building a Watchlist with Screeners

18:30 Identifying Strength & Momentum Stocks

24:30 Sector Rotation & Following Institutional Money

30:00 Refining the Watchlist (Yellow → Green Lists)

36:00 Gap & Go Setups and High-Momentum Names

42:00 Risk, Weak Stocks, and What to Avoid

48:00 Managing Watchlists and Daily Workflow

55:00 Final Thoughts: Preparation vs Execution

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Check out our directory for other amazing interviews we've done in the past!

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Cam is a Navy veteran & management consultant turned 8 figure investor & trader. Trading let him retire at 35 & be able to support and provide for his family forever. Now he wants to help others escape the financial system and live the way we were meant to live: free. His system is a rule-based design that can be used for long term investing, swing trading or option selling on any schedule.

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Sub to Cam’s YouTube for More!

Joel is a power lineman, husband, and father of 2 wonderful daughters. He took up trading as a way of participating in the market more actively than buy and hold ETF investing. Joel has found a true passion in trading futures and would continue to do it even if he never earned (or lost) another dollar, he just enjoys the game. Along with that he has found a community that has grown on him beyond buddies and past friends to what he considers family. Joel's best friend is a doctor in the states he met through trading and have never met in person, while he is up in Canada.

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