Big laughs. Smart takes. Every day. Commotion from CBC Podcasts is where you go for thoughtful and vibrant conversations about all things pop culture. Host Elamin Abdelmahmoud calls on journalists, critics, creators and friends to talk through the biggest arts & entertainment stories of the day, in 30 minutes or less.

In this segment from July 2024, Elamin dives into the very messy and public fight between Hybe and the CEO of its subsidiary label ADOR, Min Hee-jin, who produces the popular K-pop group NewJeans. Michelle Cho and Jennifer Zhan look at what this feud says about the high stakes of the K-pop economy and the future of NewJeans.

You can listen to new episodes of Commotion everyday. Find the show wherever you get your podcasts, or here: https://lnk.to/CommotionCBC

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In our latest piece of bonus content, senior producer Sam Levine sits down with archaeologist and public historian Darius Arya to discuss the violent and murderous climate of the ancient world, humble beginnings that lead to auspicious ends, and what might have been had Roman history gone in a completely different direction.

Darius Arya is a Ph.D. archaeologist, public historian, author, social media influencer, and TV host Darius Arya. Darius is the Director of the American Institute for Roman Culture. He has led excavations, including at the Roman site of Ostia Antica, and taught university programs in Italy for decades. He is also a Fulbright Scholar, a fellow of the American Academy in Rome, and a guest scholar of the Getty Conservation Institute. He's appeared on HISTORY, National Geographic, and Discovery as well as BBC Radio 4 and CNN, and he hosted the PBS series Ancient Invisible Cities. Check out his Great Courses series on YouTube!

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In our latest piece of bonus content, senior producer Ben Austin-Docampo chats with NASA's former chief historian William P. Barry about dueling political ideologies, the level of cooperation between Soviet and American scientists, and the technological impact of our race to the stars.

William P. Barry served as NASA's Chief Historian for a decade. He's a 22 year veteran of the United States Airforce, where he flew KC-135 tankers and served on the faculty of the U.S. Air Force Academy. He also received his doctorate from the University of Oxford, writing his dissertation on the history of Soviet space exploration.

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In our latest piece of bonus content, writer Max Wolfson talks with cultural critic and historian and Stuart Walton about the differing characters of spirits, the effectiveness of legislating vice, and our need to get obliterated.

Stuart Walton has written about drink and drug cultures since the early 1990s, and is the author of “In The Realm of the Senses: A Materialist Theory of Seeing and Feeling,” “A Natural History of Human Emotions” and “Out of It: A Cultural History of Intoxication” as well as a number of consumer guides to wine, spirits and liqueurs, and cocktails. He’s written for the Guardian, the London Magazine, the LA Review of Books and Review 31, and is a Royal Literary Fund Tutorial Fellow at Plymouth University. In his early career, he wrote on food and wine, co-edited the Hachette Wine Guide and has been a senior writer and inspector on the Good Food Guide for thirty years.

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The pearl clutching about “cancel culture” and “censorship” has become louder and more absurd. Journalists Katelyn Burns and Oliver-Ash Kleine see this panic for what it is though: a grift. That's why they created the "Cancel Me, Daddy" podcast. Each episode, they take a closer look at these temper tantrums, dispelling myths, laughing at the most outrageous takes, and shedding light on which perspectives are actually being suppressed and left out of the conversation.

You can find Cancel Me, Daddy wherever you listen to podcasts and join our community on Patreon.

Our theme song was written by Daniel Peterschmidt, and Eden M-W designed our graphics.

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In our latest piece of bonus content, showrunner Pete Musto sits down with conservationist and explorer Robin Hanbury-Tenison to talk about the psychology of pushing yourself to the limit, the intricacies of human nature, and the countless wonders that still remain undiscovered on our world.

Robin Hanbury-Tenison is one of the few remaining explorers who merits the name today. He made the two first crossings of South America, from East to West in 1958 and North to South in 1964. He’s also written over 25 books, as well as edited The Great Journeys in History and The Modern Explorers: Epic Journeys to the End of the World. Robin also became celebrated as a photographer via the critically acclaimed exhibition at the National Theatre, "Echoes of a Vanished World."

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In our latest piece of bonus content, showrunner Pete Musto talks with entertainement journalist Felix Gillete about the revolutionary history of HBO, the dawn of prestige television, and the impact made by telling the stories of young professional women's sex lives.

Felix Gillete is a media and entertainment editor for Bloomberg News. In addition to Bloomberg, Felix has written for Washington City Paper, Columbia Journalism Review, the Village Voice and the New York Observer. He’s also the co-author along with John Koblin of “It’s Not TV: The Spectacular Rise, Revolution and Future of HBO.”

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In our latest piece of bonus content, showrunner Pete Musto chats with science writer David Bainbridge about the philosophy science, the role of ego in discovery, and what it means to be a founding member of a field of study.

David Bainbridge is a science writer, reproductive biologist and veterinary anatomist at Cambridge University. He has written for various publications, such as The Guardian, New Scientist, and The Times. And he is the author of numerous books on natural science, including “Stripped Bare: The Art of Animal Anatomy,” “How Zoologists Organize Things: The Art of Classification,” and “Paleontology: An Illustrated History.”

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The feud of feuds. A rivalry between two stars, Bette Davis and Joan Crawford, may have begun as a publicity stunt, but it became a bizarre and malignant reality in the behind-the-scenes story of 1962's, "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?".

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