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In our latest piece of bonus content, showrunner Pete Musto sits down with conservationist and explorer Robin Hanbury-Tenison to talk about the psychology of pushing yourself to the limit, the intricacies of human nature, and the countless wonders that still remain undiscovered on our world.

Robin Hanbury-Tenison is one of the few remaining explorers who merits the name today. He made the two first crossings of South America, from East to West in 1958 and North to South in 1964. He’s also written over 25 books, as well as edited The Great Journeys in History and The Modern Explorers: Epic Journeys to the End of the World. Robin also became celebrated as a photographer via the critically acclaimed exhibition at the National Theatre, "Echoes of a Vanished World."

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In our latest piece of bonus content, showrunner Pete Musto talks with entertainement journalist Felix Gillete about the revolutionary history of HBO, the dawn of prestige television, and the impact made by telling the stories of young professional women's sex lives.

Felix Gillete is a media and entertainment editor for Bloomberg News. In addition to Bloomberg, Felix has written for Washington City Paper, Columbia Journalism Review, the Village Voice and the New York Observer. He’s also the co-author along with John Koblin of “It’s Not TV: The Spectacular Rise, Revolution and Future of HBO.”

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In our latest piece of bonus content, showrunner Pete Musto chats with science writer David Bainbridge about the philosophy science, the role of ego in discovery, and what it means to be a founding member of a field of study.

David Bainbridge is a science writer, reproductive biologist and veterinary anatomist at Cambridge University. He has written for various publications, such as The Guardian, New Scientist, and The Times. And he is the author of numerous books on natural science, including “Stripped Bare: The Art of Animal Anatomy,” “How Zoologists Organize Things: The Art of Classification,” and “Paleontology: An Illustrated History.”

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The feud of feuds. A rivalry between two stars, Bette Davis and Joan Crawford, may have begun as a publicity stunt, but it became a bizarre and malignant reality in the behind-the-scenes story of 1962's, "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?".

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In this episode, Tess re-examines the Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton story and tries to expand the narrative to her side of what happened as the most infamous intern in American history. Tess and Claire discuss power dynamics, how politicians are all corrupt, acknowledging and dissecting Hillary's response to her husband's behavior, and of course, the villainous Linda Trip, who remains a complicated figure in the whole case. They also finally recognize the other SA victims of Bill Clinton's, whose stories unfortunately get lost in this tale. TW: SA and rape Created and produced by Claire Donald and Tess Bellomo

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**This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/beef and get on your way to being your best self.**

In our latest piece of bonus content, senior producer James Levine sits down with historian and author Honor Cargill-Martin to discuss the violent paranoia of Roman power politics, the personalities that dominated that world, and how certain figures' legacies are able to last for millennia.

Honor Cargill-Martin is a historian and author who studied Classical Archaeology and Ancient History at the University of Oxford, where she earned her masters degree with Distinction in Greek and Roman History. She completed a second masters in the History of Art at the Courtauld Institute in London, where she was awarded a Distinction for work focusing on the art of the Italian - and especially the Venetian - Renaissance. Her first non-fiction book Messalina: A Story of Empire, Slander and Adultery, telling the story of the 1st century AD Roman empress Messalina was published in 2023 to critical acclaim.

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This week on Beef, a divided Roman republic’s uneasy peace is broken when rival rulers Marc Antony and Octavian vie for ultimate control of the ancient world.

Pick up a copy of Honor Cargill-Martin's new book Messalina: Empress, Adulteress, Libertine: The Story of the Most Notorious Woman of the Roman World

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Written by James "Sam" Levine

Editing & Sound Design by Pete Musto

Produced by Benjamin Austin-Docampo

Created by Executive Producer Jeremiah Tittle

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Every episode is a meticulously researched exploration of significant historical events, shedding light on the narratives that have shaped our societies and our understanding of the world. 

"In 1974, a Japanese soldier named Hiroo Onoda emerged from the Philippine jungle, unaware that World War 2 had been over for nearly 30 years. During those three decades, Onoda waged a murderous guerilla insurgency against the residents of Lubang island, leaving a trail of corpses and broken lives in his wake. Meanwhile, the defeated Empire of Japan was undergoing a radical transformation that would reshape the trajectory of East Asia. In this standalone episode of Conflicted, we weave these two parallel stories together into an examination of the nature of loss, persistence, and hope."

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This week on Beef, ancient Rome is torn in two by aspiring emperors Marc Antony and Octavian in the wake of Julius Caesar’s murder by the Senate.

Pick up a copy of Prof. David S. Potter's latest book Disruption: Why Things Change

Check out Darius Arya's digital lecture series "Ancient Rome Live"

Hosted by Bridget Todd

Written by James "Sam" Levine

Editing & Sound Design by Pete Musto

Produced by Benjamin Austin-Docampo

Created by Executive Producer Jeremiah Tittle

Find out more about all of Next Chapter Podcasts' incredible content at nextchapterpodcasts.com!

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In our latest piece of bonus content, senior producer James Levine sits down with former IndyCar driver and current F1 TV commentator James Hinchcliffe to talk about the addictive nature of racing, instinctual vs. intellectual driving, and how Senna and Prost still impact the world of F1 today.

James Hinchcliffe is a former IndyCar driver for Andretti Autosport and Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, with six race wins and 18 podiums to his name. In 2011, James was named the NTT IndyCar Series Rookie of the Year and Tony Renna Rising Star Award winner. He now serves as an analyst for NBC Sports’ INDYCAR coverage and Formula 1 TV, as well as Advance Auto Parts INDYCAR Radio Network, Champ Car and A1 GP Network. And he co-hosts the podcast “Off Track with Hinch and Rossi,” with fellow driver Alexander Rossi.

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