Divorce isn’t failure—it’s a call to transformation. In this episode of Been There, Dunn That, host Angela Dunn-Cartledge sits down with author, coach, and speaker Julie Sedler to have an honest, stigma-free conversation about divorce, identity, and rediscovering who you really are.

Julie shares her personal story of realizing her marriage no longer served her, confronting the shame and societal expectations that weigh on women, and ultimately “burning her life down” to build something more authentic. From her memoir Watch Me to her courses and coaching, Julie is committed to helping women navigate grief, reclaim their power, and rewrite their stories.

Together, Angela and Julie explore:

• The emotional cocktail of divorce—shame, guilt, grief, and unexpected freedom.
• Why “simple” doesn’t mean “easy” when it comes to healing.
• How societal structures and gender expectations contribute to personal breaking points.
• The importance of identity shifts, releasing childhood constructs, and asking: Who am I, really?
• Practical tools like journaling, planning systems, and rituals of celebration that support the journey.
• The mindset shift from seeing is believing → to believing is seeing.
• Julie’s guiding question: “How do you want to feel today?”

This episode is a reminder that grief and divorce aren’t endings—they’re invitations to find yourself again, on your own terms.

• 📖 Book: Watch Me → ⁠juliesedler.com⁠
• 🖥️ Courses & Coaching: Aligning Your Dreams and Vision and more → ⁠juliesedler.com⁠
• 📲 Social Media: Instagram ⁠@julie_sedler_author⁠, TikTok, Threads
• ✉️ Connect: juliesedler.com (email available on site)

In this heartfelt conversation, Angela sits down with Elisa Lindstrom—an ex-therapist turned declutter coach—to explore how grief, guilt, and clutter intertwine. Together, they uncover why we hold onto “stuff” after loss or transition, and how releasing it doesn’t mean forgetting the people or experiences tied to it. Elisa shares practical tools for starting small, creating meaningful keepsakes, and giving ourselves permission to grieve at our own pace.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why decluttering can feel like “losing them again” and how to reframe it
• The difference between honoring memories vs. holding onto everything
• How guilt and “shoulds” keep us stuck in clutter and grief
• Elisa’s gentle, 15-minute method to start sorting without overwhelm
• The power of creating spaces that feel safe, functional, and truly yours

Links & Resources:

• Connect with Elisa at ⁠dearlovesjustbreathe.com⁠
• Download Elisa’s “3 Simple Steps to Start Decluttering” free guide
• Subscribe to the Messy Mournings newsletter at ⁠dunnthatpodcast.com⁠ to get automatic updates when new episodes release and practical help you can use all week long

✨ Release. Feel. Heal.

In this deeply personal and empowering episode, Angela sits down with her longtime friend and health coach, Becca Stone, to talk about the long road from disordered eating and infertility to motherhood, purpose, and freedom. Becca’s journey includes overcoming PCOS, finding her voice in a body that didn’t feel like her own, and discovering that real health isn’t about perfection — it’s about grace, habits, and truth.

Together, they discuss:

• Grieving the life you thought you’d have
• Body image, binge eating, and diet culture recovery
• Infertility and the emotional toll of PCOS
• The powerful role of faith and prayer
• Raising kids with intention, especially when parenting includes neurodivergence and multiples
• How health and healing are deeply tied to identity, self-talk, and community
• Why consistency is the true superpower

Whether you’ve battled body image, felt stuck in your health journey, or are simply trying to get back to yourself, Becca’s wisdom and vulnerability will move you.

Mentioned in the episode:

• PCOS and metabolic dysfunction
• Grief beyond death — the grief of unmet expectations and identity shifts
• “Habit stacking” and practical mindset shifts
• Faith-based wellness and healing
• Teaching our daughters how to talk to their bodies

Connect with Becca:

Instagram: @herhealth_40

Facebook: Her Health

To inquire about coaching: DM on Instagram or Facebook

Release. Feel. Heal.

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Join host Angela Dunn-Cartledge in this engaging mashup episode as she delves into the leadership journeys of Kyle Baxter and Chris Terzakos. Discover how their unique backgrounds and experiences have shaped their leadership styles and hear their origin stories in their own voices.

Find Chris on his website here.

Work with Kyle on his website here.

Mark walks us through taking care of his mother in her last days, the slow death he grieved along the way, and his humor he brought to the story. Mark's book, A Cup of Tea on the Commode, has won 13 awards (and counting!) and shows the real and raw moments of caregiving while working with his siblings strengths and boundaries.

You can find Mark's book ⁠here⁠ and work with him through his website ⁠here⁠.

Hear from coach Megan DeVito about managing anxiety and stress. We explore the pervasive emotions in society today, the impact of information overload, and the importance of resilience. Megan shares her personal journey with anxiety and offers insights on how to challenge anxious thoughts, find truth in personal beliefs, and break the cycle of anxiety. The discussion emphasizes the need for professional help and community support in navigating mental health challenges.

Work with Megan on her ⁠website⁠ - especially her new ⁠Boundaries and Balance Audit⁠.

In this episode of the Been There, Dunn That podcast, hear from clinical psychologist Ashley Poklar about the complexities of grief, therapy, and parenting. Ashley shares her journey from being a special education teacher to a psychologist, emphasizing the importance of building trust with your children to prevent or heal trauma. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing warning signs in children, co-creating consequences, and the ongoing nature of parenting conversations.

To work with Ashley, go to her website at ⁠apoklarponders.org⁠. To find help with sexual exploitation, go to https://foundationsentinel.org/.

In this episode, Angela shares her deeply personal journey through infertility, detailing her early desire to become a mother and the challenges she faced in conceiving. She recounts the emotional and physical trials of medical interventions, including in vitro fertilization, and the profound impact of losing her son, Porter, who was born with primordial dwarfism. Angela discusses the subsequent decision to pursue embryo adoption, leading to the birth of her triplets, and reflects on the complexities of grief, resilience, and the importance of connection.

Special Thanks goes to Shelby Ring for serving as interviewer and providing a safe place for Angela!

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode deals with hard topics such as sexual abuse and intent (not completed) murder. Please listen as your pace and with your health in mind.

Hear from Keeper Catran-Whitney as he describes the earthquakes that rocked his world, not but in the physical way. His mental and emotional journey through learning his sisters were being abused by his own parents will move you and show you the meaning of true healing from unbelievable trauma.

You can find Keeper's work at https://keepercatranwhitney.com/.

Hear from Bracha Goetz, an author of children's books and a memoir about her journey through addiction and healing. Bracha shares her insights on the importance of gratitude, the struggles of food addiction, and how to teach children (and adults!) the value of gratitude. She introduces the concept of the 'pleasure ladder,' which outlines different levels of pleasure and how gratitude can help fill the emptiness within us. The conversation emphasizes the transformative power of gratitude and the importance of sharing these lessons with future generations.

You can work with Bracha through ⁠Growing I.M.P.A.C .T Publications ⁠.