This week on the podcast, Bob sits down with singer-songwriter Matthew West for a conversation about grace, identity, availability, and what it means to live a life that actually lasts. Together, they talk about everything from faith and family to baseball hats, prison phone calls, work ethic, and the quiet courage of taking small steps forward.

If this conversation resonated with you, Matthew’s latest music and newest book carry many of the same themes: learning to stop performing, receive grace, and stay faithful one step at a time. Be sure to check out his newest album, Don’t Stop Praying, recent songs like “Good” and “Jesus is King,” and his new book Don’t Stop Praying, available now.

Connect with Matthew: @matthewjwest

Connect with Bob: @bobgoff

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