They dig into the failures of Canada’s justice system, from repeat offenders to weak sentencing, and why provinces like Ontario desperately need more jail space. Mulroney explains why he supports exploring Pierre Poilievre’s self-defence law proposal, which he says would force criminals to rethink the risks of breaking into Canadians’ homes.

The conversation also touches on the decline of court reporting in mainstream media, and whether independent outlets should revive “court watch” coverage to hold judges and politicians accountable.

Finally, Kris and Ben turn to Parliament’s return and the Carney government’s political balancing act. Mulroney weighs in on affordability, Liberal divisions over climate policy, and why he believes “without Mark Carney, the Liberals would be in third place.”

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