This week Jools and Jim are joined by Booker Prize winning novelist and poet Ben Okri for a magical metaphorical journey of the mind.

Jools and Jim consider how to define an age, while Ben invites the pair to consider the transporting possibilities of music, literature, and even the smell of mince and onions.

Ben recalls a vibrant childhood in Lagos, and the three discuss white cars in hot countries, the “cruel smell” of the Thames, and whether a hat can be used as a shopping bag…

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