Welcome to The Not Old – Better Show, Smithsonian Associates interview series on radio and podcast., the podcast for those who believe it's never too late to explore, learn, and live a meaningful life. I'm your host, Paul Vogelzang, and as always, I'm so glad you're with us today.

Today's episode is one you won't want to miss. We're diving into the life of one of history's most fascinating figures—Benjamin Franklin. But not the Franklin you think you know. When we hear his name, we might picture the Founding Father, the diplomat, or the man on the $100 bill. Yet Franklin was also a brilliant scientist—an innovator and experimenter whose discoveries shaped the modern world in ways many of us overlook.

Our guest today is Smithsonian Associate and acclaimed author Dick Munson, here to discuss his new book, Ingenious: A Biography of Benjamin Franklin, Scientist. Munson's work sheds fresh light on Franklin's scientific achievements, from his groundbreaking work on electricity—including the famous kite experiment—to his contributions to meteorology, oceanography, and even the invention of everyday tools like the lightning rod and efficient stoves.

Franklin's science wasn't just a hobby; it was the backbone of his life. His experiments and discoveries earned him fame, respect, and influence, opening doors that helped secure vital French support during the American Revolution. Dick Munson argues that to truly understand Franklin the Founding Father, we must first appreciate Franklin the Scientist—a man whose relentless curiosity and love of learning shaped both his world and ours.

Get ready for an eye-opening conversation as we explore Franklin's lesser-known scientific side, the joys and challenges of his experiments, and the lasting lessons his approach to science can teach us today.

So, let's get started. Please join me in welcoming our guest, Smithsonian Associate Dick Munson, to The Not Old – Better Show.

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