Beyond The Barrel Podcast

Beyond The Barrel Podcast

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Beyond The Barrel Podcast episodes

  • The Art of Indirection Mini Series: From 22-Year-Old Rookie to Running a State Interdiction Unit

    On this episode we sit down with Brandon Deckert, a Wyoming Highway Patrol Sergeant whose career has been built on the front lines of criminal interdiction and K-9 operations.


    Born and raised in northern Minnesota, he began his law enforcement career with the Wyoming Highway Patrol in 2007 at just 22 years old after earning a degree in Criminal Justice with a minor in Psychology. In 2011, he was selected for the WHP K-9 Team, where he has handled three single-purpose narcotics detection dogs and built a reputation as a dedicated interdiction officer.


    In 2023, Brandon was promoted to Sergeant, supervising Uinta and Lincoln Counties in Troop “D” while serving as the Wyoming Highway Patrol K-9 Team Coordinator. In 2025, he transitioned into the Special Operations Division, where he now supervises a full-time interdiction team and oversees the statewide K-9 Unit.


    His work in interdiction earned him the Rocky Mountain HIDTA Interdiction Officer of the Year Award in 2021. Outside of law enforcement, Brandon is a Christian, a father of three, and the owner of True North K-9 Solutions, helping agencies build stronger K-9 programs through training, risk assessments, documentation, and detection dog development.


    In this conversation, we go beyond the uniform and around the bourbon barrel to talk about K-9 culture, interdiction, leadership, faith, and building programs that actually work on the street.


    Timestamps: 

    03:00  Minnesota Roots

    06:05  Becoming Trooper

    11:00  Communication Skills

    16:20  Sports & Football

    18:20  K-9 Inspiration

    27:00  Policing Culture

    35:00  Rural Policing

    42:58  Interdiction Career

    59:10  Dog Business


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    1 hr 27 min
  • Ep 52: Beyond the Name: Forging a Legacy Outside the Shadow

    Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths straight, no chaser.

    Garry Chapman was born into a name the country already knew. As the son of Duane Chapman, better known as “Dog the Bounty Hunter,” he grew up around criminal behavior, accountability, and national attention. Cameras, criticism, and pressure were nothing new.


    But legacy doesn’t have to mean imitation.

    Instead of chasing fugitives on television, Garry chose professional law enforcement. He left Hawaii, stepped out of the shadow of a larger-than-life public figure, and built his own reputation through patrol work, proactive enforcement, DUI interdiction, and criminal investigations.


    In this episode, we go beyond the last name and into the man behind it. We discuss identity, public perception, constitutional policing, and what it means to earn credibility when people assume it was handed to you.


    This one isn’t about fame.

    It’s about independence.

    It’s about resilience.

    It’s about earning your own badge.


    Off duty. Off script. And beyond the barrel.


    Timestamps:

    02:47 – Cop Aspirations

    05:27 – Celebrity Kid

    08:54 – Explorer Program

    14:54 – Parents’ Past

    24:58 – Mom’s Cancer

    31:00 – Small-Town Start

    36:31 – Sister’s Tragedy

    39:45 – Fitness Wake-Up

    53:14 – Law School Plans


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    1 hr 10 min
  • Ep 51: Depth Under Pressure: Stoicism, Submarines, and the Warrior’s Mind

    This week, we go beneath the surface literally and philosophically.

    Commander William C. Spears is a submarine warfare officer in the United States Navy, a nuclear-trained officer, and the author of Stoicism as a Warrior Philosophy. From enlisting in the Navy’s nuclear propulsion program straight out of Pineville, Louisiana, to graduating from the United States Naval Academy with a degree in Mechanical Engineering, Spears has built a career defined by discipline, depth, and deliberate leadership.


    He has served aboard multiple nuclear-powered submarines, including as Weapons Officer on a fast-attack submarine and Executive Officer on a Trident missile submarine—positions where decisions aren’t just tactical… they’re existential. Ashore, he has evaluated combat readiness across the submarine force and now serves inside the Pentagon in strategic assessment, shaping national defense at the highest levels before returning to sea duty in 2026.


    But this conversation goes beyond rank and résumé.

    We dive into:

        •    What leadership looks like when you’re sealed underwater for months at a time

        •    How Stoicism moves from ancient philosophy to modern warfare

        •    The psychological weight of command in environments where failure isn’t an option

        •    How discipline, ethics, and mental clarity define a warrior long before combat

        •    And why antagonizing your family with philosophical inquiry might just be elite-level dad humor


    From nuclear reactors to national strategy, from depth charges to depth of character—this episode explores what it means to lead with conviction when pressure is constant and unseen.

    Off duty. Off script. And far beyond the barrel.


    Timestamps: 

    3:15  Louisiana Roots

    6:20  9/11 Experience

    14:40  Submarine Culture

    20:05  Life Underwater

    25:50  Family Separation

    32:10  Writing Journey

    39:20  Publishing Process

    46:30  Stockdale Influence

    52:05  Hawaii & Japan


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    1 hr 11 min
  • Ep 50: From the Classroom to the Streets: Making a Real Impact with Daniel Herrera

    Are We Training for the Threat… or Ignoring the Real Problem?


    Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths—straight, no chaser. This episode dives into the life of Officer Daniel Herrera, a former elementary school teacher turned law enforcement officer who now stands on the front lines of school safety and crisis response.


    Herrera shares how his early years in education shaped his approach to policing, why protecting kids carries a different emotional weight, and what it’s like serving as both a School Resource Officer and Team Leader on a Crisis/Hostage Negotiation Team. We talk active threat preparedness, tactical medical training, and the realities of preparing officers, staff, and students for moments everyone hopes never come.


    But beyond the badge, Daniel opens up about family life, Jiu Jitsu, motorcycles, and the importance of building trust off-duty through community initiatives like his annual “Ballin’ for Unity” basketball game. It’s a conversation about service, responsibility, and the human side of the people standing guard over our schools.


    Off duty, off script, and beyond the barrel.


    Timestamps: 

    07:30 – Children’s Book

    12:00 – Cuban Upbringing

    19:30 – Personal Tragedy

    24:30 – Career Switch

    30:30 – Teaching Purpose

    36:00 – Street Crimes

    48:00 – Young Officers

    50:00 – Jiu-Jitsu Start

    01:25:00 – Justice & Family


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    1 hr 32 min
  • Ep 49: Pouring Purpose, Dirk’s Mission to Honor the Fallen | The End of Watch Legacy Fund

    When the End of Watch is called, Dirk makes sure the family is never forgotten. Nineteen years in law enforcement changes a man but for Dirk, it clarified his purpose.


    Husband. Father. Cop. Bourbon enthusiast. And founder of the End of Watch Legacy Fund, a mission born from loss, service, and an unwavering commitment to those who never made it home.


    In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, Dirk shares how he combined two worlds his love for bourbon and his devotion to law enforcement to build something bigger than himself. The End of Watch Legacy Fund raises money with one clear goal: to provide $10,000 directly to the families of Indiana officers killed in the line of duty, ensuring their sacrifice is honored with more than words.


    This isn’t just about bourbon.

    It’s about brotherhood.

    It’s about legacy.

    And it’s about taking care of our own long after the End of Watch is called.


    Off duty. Off script. And driven by purpose this conversation goes well beyond the barrel.


    Timestamps: 

    01:40 Meet Dirk

    03:00 Fundraiser Origin

    06:00 Tough Moments

    08:30 Communication Skills

    14:30 Career Start

    17:30 SWAT Life

    20:00 Charity Begins

    22:00 Bourbon Events

    28:30 Fallen Officer

    33:30 Sierra Strong

    47:00 Future Plans

    56:50 Justice Question


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    1 hr 1 min
  • Ep. 48: Gunfire, Flight Lines, and the Fourth Amendment with Sgt. Jake Bigelow

    Two officer-involved shootings. First on scene to a home invasion at a cop’s house. Task force interdiction. And zero tolerance for bad Fourth Amendment policing.


    Sgt. Jake Bigelow is a 13-year law enforcement veteran with the Casper Police Department, a former multi-agency drug task force officer, and a legal instructor with Blue to Gold Law Enforcement Training. Before policing, he served in the U.S. Air Force Security Forces and the Army National Guard as a flight medic, with additional experience as a firefighter and paramedic.


    In this episode, Jake challenges the idea that “good intentions” excuse bad searches, breaks down real-world interdiction mistakes cops still make, and explains why constitutional policing is the difference between locking criminals up—or letting them walk.


    No fluff. No excuses. Just hard truths from someone who’s lived it.


    Timestamps: 

    00:02:30  Jake’s Background

    00:08:45  Troubled Upbringing

    00:15:30  Mentorship Impact

    00:29:45  Pilot Life

    00:31:00  Midair Emergency

    00:36:25  Fire to Police

    00:38:45  Drug Task Force

    01:17:35  Shoot or Die

    01:24:00  After the Shooting

    01:39:35  Acceptance of Death

    01:56:00  Mental Health Stigma

    02:03:10  Justice Defined


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    2 hr 9 min
  • Ep. 47: Raising Free Thinkers in a Broken World: BAM on Homeschooling, Justice & Wild Chaos

    BAM has interviewed everyone from addicts to authors, athletes to warriors but his most important mission isn’t behind a mic. It’s at home.

    In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we go far beyond podcasting and into the culture war being fought over our kids, our schools, and our justice system. BAM explains why he pulled his children out of public school, how homeschooling creates independent thinkers instead of obedient workers, and why families have to take responsibility for the next generation.
    We also break down what justice is supposed to mean, why the current system fails at times, and our opinion on how it could improve.
    This wasn’t a polished interview it was an organic, no-script conversation the way podcasts were meant to be. Real stories. Real beliefs. No filters.
    Because in the middle of all the chaos, the truth still deserves to be poured straight.
    Timestamps:
    05:10 – Childhood hustle
    10:30 – Leaving home
    17:45 – Joining Marines
    24:00 – Iraq deployments
    31:30 – Loss & mindset
    38:00 – Leaving service
    46:30 – First business
    58:30 – Scaling fast
    1:17:00 – Charity mission
    1:38:30 – Family focus
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    1 hr 57 min
  • Ep. 46: From Cape Cod to LAPD: The Stories That Shape Cops

    Steve Gould has spent nearly two decades in law enforcement, but his career has taken a path few ever walk. From working the wild and unpredictable terrain of Cape Cod as a Natural Resources Officer, to pushing a cruiser on the street, to becoming a civilian background investigator for the LAPD, Steve has seen every side of the badge.


    In 2018, he launched the wildly popular Things Police See podcast — a space where active and retired cops come off script and tell the stories that never make it into official reports. The funny ones. The dark ones. The ones that stay with you long after the shift ends. Now, through his Sgt. Steve YouTube channel, he breaks down body-cam footage with the kind of insight only someone who’s lived it can provide.


    In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we go deeper than the uniform and the footage. We talk about what those moments really do to the men and women who experience them, how storytelling has become a form of therapy for cops, and why the truth of police work is far more complicated than what the headlines or viral clips ever show.


    This is a raw, honest conversation about life behind the badge, the weight cops carry home, and the power of telling the stories that need to be told — straight, no chaser.


    Timestamps: 

    07:30  Bodycam Breakdown

    14:30  Police Upbringing

    21:00  Communication Skills

    27:45  Academy Reality

    34:30  Firearms Training

    41:30  LAPD Experience

    48:15  California Policing

    55:30  Career Reflections

    1:08:30  Leaving It Better


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    1 hr 15 min
  • Ep. 45: Truth Is a Dangerous Weapon: Adam & Tyler Hoover on Policing, PTSD, and Justice

    Truth isn’t always comfortable and it’s rarely safe.

    In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, Kenny sits down with Adam and Tyler Hoover for a raw, unfiltered conversation about war, policing, trauma, and the cost of speaking out.


    Adam’s path took him from the U.S. Marine Corps into law enforcement, working everything from small-town policing to state-level interdiction units, building a career rooted in proactive enforcement and firsthand experience with how the system truly operates.


    Tyler began in the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne, deploying to Baghdad during Operation Iraqi Freedom before transitioning into law enforcement, where he served in SWAT, Street Crimes, and as a Field Training Officer. As the founder of Anti-Hero Broadcast, he’s become one of the most controversial voices in the first responder space by openly challenging toxic leadership and performative politics.


    Together, they break down why confrontation is sometimes necessary, the toll bad leadership takes on law enforcement, and how war and policing permanently shape perspective. The conversation turns deeply personal as they share the story of their uncle’s murder and the long fight for justice.


    This isn’t a safe or polished conversation—it’s the truth, poured straight.

    Off duty. Off script. Beyond the barrel.


    Timestamps: 

    08:30  Career Paths

    17:30  Toxic Agencies

    27:30  Cold Case Murder

    37:00  Family Impact

    46:00  State Law Differences

    55:30  Drug Interdiction

    1:05:30  Rural Policing

    1:15:30  Border & Crime

    1:25:00  Final Thoughts


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    1 hr 33 min
  • Ep 44: From Narc COP to Prison Number: What Policing Culture Doesn’t Warn About

    Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths straight, no chaser.

    In this episode, we sit down with David Hines, a former law enforcement officer whose career in a South Louisiana narcotics unit ended with a federal civil rights conviction and a prison sentence. What followed was the loss of his badge, his career, his identity and a reckoning that reshaped how he views leadership, ethics, and responsibility in policing.


    David doesn’t speak in excuses or deflection. He speaks in ownership. This conversation goes beyond headlines and courtrooms and into the real consequences of misconduct legal, professional, and deeply personal. We talk about the impact on family, the erosion of trust, and how culture, supervision, and decision-making can quietly push officers toward irreversible mistakes.


    This episode isn’t about tearing policing down. It’s about protecting it by confronting uncomfortable truths, emphasizing accountability, and challenging leaders to build cultures that prevent failure instead of explaining it away.

    If you’re an officer, supervisor, or leader who believes integrity matters and that hard conversations save careers this one’s for you.


    Off duty. Off script. And beyond the barrel.


    Timestamps: 

    11:30 – Law Enforcement Roots

    24:00 – Early Patrol Years

    37:45 – Career Progression

    51:30 – Narcotics Unit

    1:06:00 – Leadership & Culture

    1:20:45 – Critical Incident

    1:34:30 – Mental Impact

    1:48:15 – Prison Reality

    1:59:30 – Lessons Learned


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    2 hr 10 min

About Beyond The Barrel Podcast

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Welcome to Beyond the Barrel, where every episode takes you deeper into the lives of those who serve on the frontlines. Hosted by two dynamic leaders— Kenny, a nationally recognized K9 interdiction officer, and Attorney Mike, a U.S. Army veteran and seasoned Patrol Supervisor—this podcast is where stories of bravery, sacrifice, and humanity unfold. Go Beyond the Barrel with us to uncover the stories that truly define our Nation's finest.

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