California Governor Gavin Newsom and former First Lady Michelle Obama are already making moves to prepare for a 2028 presidential election run. Newsom hosted Turning Point’s Charlie Kirk on his new podcast, This Is Gavin Newsom, to appear moderate. And Michelle launched her own podcast, IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. The Sekulow team discusses whether either is a viable candidate to defeat President Donald Trump’s GOP successor, an upcoming “law and order” speech at the DOJ, the ACLJ’s legal work – and much more.