Columnist Bill Haisten of the Tulsa World talks with host Allen Kenney about his recent "state of the union" interview with Oklahoma Sooners head coach Lincoln Riley. Bill discusses some of the key takeaways from his conversation with Riley, including his impression that OU's coach is "massively normal." Bill also offers his thoughts on why defensive coordinator Alex Grinch will get OU's defense back on track. Lastly, Bill and Allen talk about Mike Gundy's track record of success with the Oklahoma State Cowboys and how Gundy has changed over time as a coach.

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