Mel and Susie get interviewed for the first time! about the Fortune's Wheelhouse podcast.  Our host is Ryan Peverly of the Occulture podcast, which is - as you might guess - a show about the culture of esotericism.  It's a wildly diverse production that includes magicians, alchemists, writers, bloggers, creatives and practitioners of all stripes. Ryan's style is probing yet irreverent, and you'll see that he has a gift for asking questions that draw out thoughtful answers.

If you've ever wondered about how we got started in tarot, or how Fortune's Wheelhouse began, our theories about what's going on in the oracular moment, or what it sounds like when we use esoterics in a reading, you won't want to miss this one!