Autumn and adrienne go live on Instagram with an interview about Autumn’s essay in Adrienne’s recent facilitation guide, Holding Change: The Way of Emergent Strategy Facilitation. And we offer a tribute to the many souls we have lost this year. Check out adrienne's other Holding Change interviews here. 
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BONUS: The Holding Change Interview

Join Autumn Brown and adrienne maree brown, two sisters who share many identities, as writers, activists, facilitators, and inheritors of multiracial diasporic lineages, as well as a particular interest in the question of survival, as we embark on a podcast that delves into the practices we need as a community, to move through endings and to come out whole on the other side, whatever that might be.

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Autumn interviews adrienne about our yearlong season of the Witch. They get into working with nature, Karis Nemik’s manifesto from Andor, humor as a spell, Autumns’ spit-takes from birth to death, Witch Season as a Delight Fest, writing letters to God, Love as Craft whether you’re with someone or not, to be part of something that’s interconnected, taking the time to get right with yourself about what you’re really here to do and how to cast the spell of your life and adrienne’s forthcoming book, Loving Corrections.
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The Sisters Reunion Part 2: Witch Report

For their grand reunion, adrienne and Autumn discuss picking weeds (but not condemning their existence as a species), periods as Cave Goddess, what would a culture of ritual around friend-death look like, the month of April astrologically being a shit show, our stories of suffering, getting EGGED, silly humans, humor as a firm mattress, sabbatical as reset, the actual experience of the mystery taking over, letting the body make a beautiful thing, finding divinity outside movement work, injury as teacher and the globalization of disorientation.
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The Sisters Reunion Part 1: Sabbatical Report

It's Witch School graduation day with Alexis Pauline Gumbs and Sangodare!
They discuss priestly practice, dropping down and back and into your center, movements of people around the world stepping up, conjuring love, the lineage of love, worshipping our partners, reading sacred texts, forgiveness your Lyft and/or Uber driver, amplifying the best of us, reclaiming love-craft and love as the essential nature of all that supports life. 
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Ṣangodare (Julia Roxanne Wallace) is a sweet space for transformation. Ṣangodare comes from a thick legacy of Black Baptist preachers and church leaders and currently activates Black Feminist sermonics at a weekly Sunday Service held by Mobile Homecoming Trust. As co-founder of Black Feminist Film School (2012), Visiting Artist in Film at Lawrence University (2017-18) and Artist in Residence at UMN-Twin Cities in the Art Department (2017-19), Ṣangodare brings a creative, evolutionary and love filled approach to filmmaking, composing, interactive design and preaching. As co-founder of Black Feminist Film School (founded along with Sista Docta Alexis Pauline Gumbs, APG) Ṣangodare created Ritual Screening, a film viewing technology that is interactive and grounded in Black Feminist practice and our non-linear reality. As co-founder of Mobile Homecoming with APG, a national experiential archive project, Ṣangodare amplifies generations of Black LGBTQ brilliance. Ṣangodare's most recent exhibition called Inherit Light: An Evolutionary Practice of Love Consciousness (including a month long gallery exhibition at UMN in 2018) engages Black southern preaching and singing legacies, sound, altars, sacred implements through sculpture and installations, film and nature. It also features small and large-scale ruminations on round sculpture and buildings - domes. The dome in Inherit Light is the multi-sensory and interactive sacred space where Ṣangodare's invocations and sermons are ignited through the site-specific exhibits of Inherit Light.

Alexis Pauline Gumbs is a Queer Black Troublemaker and Black Feminist Love Evangelist and an aspirational cousin to all sentient beings. Her work in this lifetime is to facilitate infinite, unstoppable ancestral love in practice. Her poetic work in response to the needs of her cherished communities has held space for multitudes in mourning and movement. Alexis’s co-edited volume Revolutionary Mothering: Love on the Front Lines (PM Press, 2016) has shifted the conversation on mothering, parenting and queer transformation. Alexis has transformed the scope of intellectual, creative and oracular writing with her triptych of experimental works published by Duke University Press (Spill: Scenes of Black Feminist Fugitivity in 2016, M Archive: After the End of the World  in 2018 and Dub: Finding Ceremony, 2020.)  Unlike most academic texts, Alexis’s work has inspired artists across form to create dance works, installation work, paintings, processionals, divination practices, operas, quilts and more.  
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Witch School Graduation with Alexis Pauline Gumbs and Sangodare

adrienne welcomes yoga teacher Wambui Njuguna-Räisänen to Witch School. Sign up for her newsletter here. They discuss A-ha moments during yoga, subtle shifts, the somatic experience of being alive, the miraculous mundane, remembering childhood magic, growing up in Nairobi, the beauty of the cycles of the land in the US, the structure of ashtanga yoga, how the threads of dominant culture show up in our spiritual and wellness spaces, Lama Rod Owens, a great web of potential liberation, light feminine and dark feminine energy, parenting as world-building + a future-shaping spell to close out the episode.
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Witch School 25, Wambui Njuguna-Räisänen

adrienne welcomes Dori Midnight, a community care practitioner, ritual leader, writer, and deep listener oriented towards healing and liberation.
They discuss how everything is a ritual, palm reading, holding community stories, ancestral healing practices, creative ritual spaces, spell writing, having agency in our presence, prophecy, translations for G-d, reading about ancient prophets, feeling grief and adorned, golden, jewelry mouths.
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BONUS: The Holding Change Interview

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