Jim Norton and Matt Serra are joined by a pair of fighters from this Saturday’s card in bantamweight Brady Hiestand and flyweight Alex Perez.

Joining first is Hiestand, who shares his eager mindset as he seeks to pick up a third straight win after a 14-month layoff from various ailments.

After that, the guys get a chance to talk to one half of the main event in veteran flyweight Alex Perez. Coming from a large family, Perez sheds light on how growing up with a bunch of siblings helped shape him into a tough wrestler before jumping into a career in MMA.