Brave Ideas

Understanding the NorNorm business model.

Quote from Guest: "We are disrupting the whole business model of furniture." Douwe Dirks

Summary: Douwe Dirks, CCO of NorNorm joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 10 of Season 9 where they discuss how NorNorm are trying to disrupt the business model of furniture.

In this episode Caleb and Douwe discuss the circular ecosystem being created that reduces carbon output, the benefits of subscription furniture, helping office real estate savine cash and provide better agility to office customers and how furniture-as-a-service becomes a standard for Space-as-a-Service.

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Value Bombs:

I think that was the biggest driver initially and the biggest uptake for our service. - Douwe

Our pitch is very simple: invest in your company, not in furniture. - Douwe

We take away that whole hassle of the furniture part of the Fitout - Douwe

If you are that company or CEO or procurement officer that thinks that you can procure furniture for 10 years and your business won't change, fine. We're not your partner. - Douwe

NorNorm maybe only does 60% of a floor or 70% of a floor, and there's still CapEx remaining to do the rest. - Douwe

Timestamps:

(0.20) Growth plans for NorNorm

(01.07) Biggest drivers in the market

(04.16) Partnership between NorNorm and Covivio

(05.15) NorNorm's fundraising rounds

(05.55) Why NorNorm wanted to MIPIM

(07.08) NorNorm's business model

(10.15) Business case for using NorNorm

(14.09) How they work as a plugin

(15.29) Furniture as a service

(17.42) Synergies between NorNorm and Design & Build Companies

(19.20) The companies quality assurance

(19.51) Their carbon report

Resources:

Covivio

IKEA

Verdane

Netflix

Volvo

Deutsche Bank

Heineken

WeWork

Shout outs:

Jonas Kjellberg

Antony Slumbers

Olivier Esteve

Melanie Jones

About Douwe Dirks

Douwe Dirks is CCO of NorNorm, a subscription-based furnishing service that helps businesses adapt to changing workspace needs.

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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An interview with art historian Sneha Shah

Quote from Guest: "Art is like this universal language" - Sneha Shah

Summary: Sneha Shah, Founder and CEO of Curaty joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 9 of Season 9 where they discuss the impact art can have on community both within and around our buildings.

In this episode Caleb and Sneha discuss art as service, how curated art can provide inspiring and inclusive environments and the hashtag #WhiteWallsSuck

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Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn

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Value Bombs:

Even before we had language that was verbal, it was visual. - Sneha

It's one of the oldest human organisational frameworks that we've created to be in touch with ourselves, but also with each other. - Sneha

How can we actually create spaces that respond to the people that are actually working there. - Sneha

Being surrounded by art sometimes creates the same kind of effect as being in nature, because at the end of the day, it's human touch. - Sneha

The values are the consistent piece, but the display of those values can vary. - Caleb

Since the day we were founded our hashtags have been #noNakedWalls and #wechampionartists. - Sneha

Timestamps:

[01.44] The history of art in the environment and why it's important.

[03.44] Using art to represent power

[05.52] The feelings art can create

[07.24] Are organisations beginning to use art to reflect their brand?

[11.42] How to curate a space that can be accommodating to everyone

[15.23] Using art spaces for wellbeing

[16.34] Can office spaces be uniformed and still create inclusive environments?

[19.09] Collaborations with art and artists

[20.35] Can you measure the impact of art within a space?

[21.48] Curaty's art as a service program

Resources:

University College London

Rotary Club International

School of Art Institute Chicago

Forbes 30 under 30

JP Morgan

Dream the World Anew

Shout outs:

Giorgio Vasari

Anthony Slumbers

Jane Beaumont

About Sneha

Sneha Shah is the Founder and CEO of Curaty who buy and Rent curated fine art from the world's most inspiring artists and curators.

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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Why data is the key to reducing energy consumption.

Quote from Guest: "The real challenge for the industry is about the current building stock. - Khadija Nadi

Summary: Khadija Nadi, CEO of DeltaQ joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 8 of Season 9 where they discuss the challenge with achieving netzero on current building stock.

In this episode Caleb and Khadija discuss how real estate can reduce their carbon footprint, the importance of data, its vital role in improving transparency and whether there will be a new pricing model for companies who use less energy.

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Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn

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Value Bombs:

The reality is that 90% of the buildings that are here today will still be here in 2050. The real challenge for the industry is about the current building stock. - KhadijaWithout doing the retrofitting, they're gonna lose customers, they're gonna be hit with penalties and ultimately their energy costs are gonna go up. - Caleb

The HVAC system, heating, ventilation, and cooling, that's about 60% of the total consumption of an office building. - Khadija

On the current portfolio that we're steering to save around 20% on the total building 20% of CO2 and energy. - Khadija

Let's say 30, 40% of it can go immediately to an autopilot where we can, after just a couple of months, reduce drastically the consumption. - Khadija

Timestamps:

(0.19) The conversations DeltaQ are having at MIPIM

(02.06) The gap between customers requirements and availability

(03.08) How DeltaQ help landlords with retrofits

(04.12) DeltaQ's flagship product

(0.529) Making sense of data

(07.51) Business models for retrofitting

(10.03) The tenants role in achieving netzero

(12.06) Attracting new talent into real estate

(15.01) Trends in energy consumption throughout the working week

Resources:

Elion Real Estate

Generali

About Khadija Nadi

Khadija Nadi is CEO of DeltaQ the Headline Sponsors for the #WorkBold podcast.

She is also a Board member of Oya Seed and a Strategic Advisor for Impact Capital.

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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Repurposing for new office customer demand

Quote from Guest: "They want to challenge the status quo, do things differently." - Sascha Lewin

Summary: Sascha Lewin Chief Executive Officer at WRE joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 7 of Season 9 where they discuss the opportunities with repurposing and repositioning products in commercial real estate in an economy that makes it difficult to create financial returns.

In this episode Caleb and Sascha discuss the challenges of having an in demand product but not being able to roll it out quickly, the gap between supply and demand, the importance of community on every project and WRE's approach to Space-as-a-Service.

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Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn

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Value Bombs:

One of the interesting things about ESG is it means something different to different people. For some it's carbon and for others it's about inclusivity. - Sascha

It has to have an emotional connection and that remains our fundamental processing approach. - Sascha

They want to challenge the status quo, do things differently. - Sascha

We're going to see income being generated not anymore, or not entirely by space, but also by providing service. - Sascha

We engaged with the public through public consultation, which we do in most major projects. And this was by far the most respondents we had ever seen. - Sascha

We are not gonna build our own team because we believe that right now, every building that we develop, we need a different approach. - Sascha

Timestamps:

(01.32) Why Sascha wanted to attend MIPIM

[03.30] Sascha's view on the ULI report and whether to bridge the supply and demand, gap investors and asset managers need to invest in ESG initiatives

[05.33] The criteria W.RE look for when an acquisition opportunity comes into their funnel

[10.12] WRE's work with up and coming consultants

[12.25] WRE's approach to the S in ESG

[15.02] Their community approach on the Clapham Junction project

[17.38] Does WRE lean into the growth demand for Space-as-a-Service?

[19.59] Does WRE have an inhouse team or do they curate the right operator for an asset?

[23.01] Sascha's restaurant recommendations in London and Cannes

Resources:

75 Grosvenor Street

ULI 2023 Conference

Clapham Junction Project

Trillion Dollar Hashtag

Shout outs:

Nor Norm

Covivio

Lisette Van Doorn

Daniel Chang

About Sascha Lewin

Sascha Lewin is Chief Executive Officer at W.RE an independent investment, development and asset management specialists in commercial real estate.

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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Why we need minimum standards to reach net zero.

Quote from Guest: "The construction of buildings, over the lifetime of the building, is tenfold the environmental impact of the operational ongoing impact." - Peter Fisher

Summary: Peter Fisher, Director at Bennetts Associates joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 6 of Season 9 where they discuss the impact of upfront emissions as well as the operational carbon emissions.

In this episode Caleb and Peter discuss reuse of existing building stock, the increased use and positive impacts of timber within construction and the current issues this presents, as well as setting a standard in net zero carbon emissions and how office design and services are evolving.

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Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn

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Value Bombs:

The timber square project that we're doing, I think the structure there is about 20-25% lighter than a conventional steel composite structure would've been with concrete in it. - Peter

There are definitely not life safety issues around and the insurance issues are around asset protection. - Peter

There's almost a sustainability arms race happening amongst commercial development. - Peter

What I think a few years ago would've probably been considered imperfections are now considered character. - Peter

What we can't have is buildings that are highly bespoke. Those are the ones that always seem to come unstuck. - Peter

Timestamps:

[01.55] Teaser of Peter's episode on BBC Radio Four Show, Costing the Earth

[3.10] Repurposing or new developments?

[04.55] Why timber?

[07.16] Timber Square Project

[08.09] Limitations with building in timber

[09.25] Is timber a risky material to use for building?

[11.07] Why Peter wanted to attend MIPIM

[12.20] Setting a minimum standard for net zero carbon

[14.26] How office spaces are evolving

[17.37] Does flexible working change how buildings are designed?

[20.48] Are office spaces becoming more like hospitality spaces?

Resources:

Timber Square

Rip It Up And Start Again

MIPIM Road to Zero

Departure of Architecture, University of Cambridge

CitizenM Hotels

Shout outs:

Nor Norms

Covivio

Simon Sturgis

Built By Nature

Benjamin Bach

David Partridge

Basil Demeroutis

Andy Pyle

About Peter Fisher

Peter Fisher, Director at Bennetts Associates, who create sustainable & enduring architecture.

He is currently leading Timber Square in Southwark and Brent Cross Town 19, projects that are pushing both net zero carbon workplace and hybrid and full timber construction respectively.

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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Leaning into Space-as-a-Service, culture and community.

Quote from Guest: "Our buildings incorporate amenities and wellness spaces, but we also consider how they sit in the wider community." - Dan Hyde

Summary: Dan Hyde, Development Director at MEPC Limited joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 5 of Season 9 where they discuss the importance of embedding community, culture and inclusivity into city centre developments and existing infrastructure.

In this episode Caleb and Dan discuss whether Manchester is fit for Generation Alpha, the different projects MEPC Ltd are working on across the UK and leaning into space as a service as a leasing strategy.

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Value Bombs:

We were surprised that a lot of what they said in terms of the workplace and how that's got to be was around inclusivity, about being kind, about feeling happy, about feeling supported. - Dan

Making sure that we are really involved in the community, not the community the communities, because it's made up of lots of different communities, how we involve them all in its progression and its evolution over the 10 year period. - Dan

How do you value it from day one? - Dan

Flex has been solving those, what we call touchdown spaces for quite some time. -Caleb

With the flex, with these added amenities, it's much more attractive proposition. - Dan

Its really elevated Manchester to be a really attractive proposition for International companies looking to inward invest into the UK, as a genuine alternative to London. - Dan

We're doing this for investors, but that gives it longevity. That will mean the next lease cycle people are still there to let up these buildings because they want to be part of that environment. - Dan

Timestamps:

[0.36] Why Dan wanted to attend MIPIM

[01.30] Is Manchester fit for generation Alpha?

[02.39] What the NOMA Project is

[04.29] How they incorporate space as a service into their assets

[07.15] The challenges with how buildings are valued

[08.50] Current trends with flex space

[10.19] Why is Manchester on fire?

[13.24] Future proofing community spaces

Resources:

NOMA

PWC

Federated Hermes

Standard Practice

Shout outs:

Wellington Place

Paradise Birmingham

St Mary Le Port

Sam Gamble

John Rowan

Becca Heron

Andy Burnham

About Dan Hyde

Dan Hyde, Development Director at MEPC Limited who manage some of the UK's best known commercial property, with seven Business Estates set in prime locations throughout the UK. Together they provide over 4 million sq ft of high quality space for more than 350 organisations, employing over 12,000 people. With a portfolio in excess of £650 million

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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A CRE masterclass with CapMan's COO

Quote from Guest: "Property owners can earn higher rents from that space than if they were leasing it traditionally to say one single tenant." - Ilkka Tomperi

Summary: Ilkka Tomperi, Partner & COO at CapMan Real Estate joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 4 of Season 9 where they discuss the importance of changing with the times and ensuring assets don't become liabilities.

In this episode Caleb and Ilkka discuss CapMan's value added strategy, and how they are approaching the growing gap between supply and demand in office real estate. They also discuss how the world of office and hotel real estate may merge and how this would change the business model.

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Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn

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Value Bombs:

I believe the future of Office Real estate is what the hotel industry looks like - Caleb

For us that means that we are in principle mostly a value add investor. And repositioning assets is actually very much in our heart. - Ilkka

If we don't invest in these retrofits, in bringing these assets up to speed, they will become stranded assets. And that becomes a liability. - Caleb

You may have in a building a couple of tenants with three five year leases and then some others with 12 month notice periods. So that brings the weighted average lease length down in a building. - Ilkka

I think that the lines between the asset classes are blurring a little. - Ilkka

The office market is changing extremely rapidly at the moment. - Ilkka

Timestamps:

[01.49] Why Ilkka wanted to attend MIPIM

[03.41] How Capman are facing the changes happening in real estate

[5.22] Lease structures in Finland

[08.22] Can historical data be used to predict cash flow?

[09.33] Will the future of offices look like hotels?

[10.41] Capman's recent deal in Stockholm

[12.27] Examples of office and hotel assets being combined

[13.31] Smaller and larger companies working together to lease space

[14.33] The best markets for global investors

[18.06] Core capital and investors

[18.41] Where different investor profiles are concentrating

Resources:

Urban Land Institute

Capman Stockholm Project

Shout outs:

Nor Norms

Real Innovation Academy

Lisette Van Doorn

About Ilkka Tomperi

Ilkka Tomperi is Partner & COO at CapMan Real Estate, a leading Nordic private asset expert with an active approach to value creation.

Ilkka is also a Professor of Practice (Real Estate Investment) at Aalto University.

Connect with Ilkka on Twitter

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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Quote from Guest: "Post pandemic, the workplace has changed and what people need and the demands of a workplace have changed." - Thomas Pearson

Summary: Thomas Pearson, Head of Real Estate Commercial at JMW Solicitors LLP joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 3 of Season 9 where they discuss the rapid expansion they have seen in the last few years, despite the pandemic.

In this episode Caleb and Thomas discuss the current trends they are seeing within real estate, balancing office requirements with flexible working and creating fully inclusive spaces. They also discuss future planning during economic uncertainty.

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Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn

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Value Bombs:

We really bucked the trend against the pandemic. - Thomas

It looks like the trend is companies are leaving their old footprint behind and going into assets or new footprints that are smarter. - Caleb

We find within our teams, across our offices, the majority of people at J M W wanna be in and wanna interact with their colleagues. - Thomas

In any new project we've done since 2017, everything is open plan. - Thomas

The companies that have too much space today, I imagine if they front loaded this conversation about having these options when they signed their lease, they wouldn't be with too much space today. - Caleb

You've got to have that ability and that boldness to look at flexible options within your own leases. - Thomas

Timestamps:

[01.16] JMW's growth over the past 4 years

[01.58] The impact of the pandemic on growth

[03.03] Current trends in real estate

[05.13] Managing office ratios with flexible working

[06.13] Thinking about company culture when looking at existing or new office space

[07.24] The ESG considerations within JMW

[08.55] How workplaces can support DEI initiatives

[10.36] How JMW forward plan

[13.10] Companies that find themselves, post-pandemic with too large office space

[14.49] The importance of collaborative spaces

[19.29] Should you expect landlords to fund all retrofit items?

[19.58] Would you move into an office footprint that could shrink?

[21.05] How the conversation Thomas has when representing landlords has changed

Resources:

Deloitte

Shout outs:

Lisette Van Doorn

Dave Cairns Episode

About Thomas Pearson

Thomas Pearson is Head of Real Estate Commercial at JMW Solicitors LLP who are a full service law firm with offices in Manchester, Liverpool and London. Solicitors here for you and your business.

Thomas is also Chair of the Spinningfields Business Group , an association of businesses with offices within the local area.

Connect with Thomas on Twitter

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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Focusing on the "S" in ESG Quote from Guest: "It's about making sure that we are creating and managing human-centric spaces for the different stakeholders at hand." - Daniel Chang

Summary: Daniel Chang, Managing Director & European Head of ESG at Hines joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 2 of Season 9 where they discuss the importance of ESG strategies and why the 'S' is so important.

In this episode Caleb and Daniel discuss the positive social impact real estate projects can have and how this can be measured. They also discuss the benefits of having a fully integrated S Strategy, and how real estate companies like Hines playing a role in creating sustainable communities and ecosystems can deliver value for the bottom line, and therefore value for investors.

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Value Bombs:

It's about making sure that we are creating and managing human-centric spaces for the different stakeholders at hand. - Daniel

We're really focused on making sure that we are creating a heterogeneous community, designing residential units that are catering to a diversity of a population. - Daniel

Ultimately it does hopefully depend on the authenticity of the objective of the project and the social agenda around that. - Daniel

I think you're able to also create value for the project because you're embracing the social. - Daniel

I can't remember the exact number of job creation. I think it might be something around 10,000. But that's something that is a direct link to the way that that building or that project is being designed. - Daniel

Timestamps:

[02.42] Why is it critical to have a fully formed ESG strategy?

[04.03] Hine's project in Milan

[04.53] The balance between sustainability and profitability

[06.43] The benefits of having a fully integrated S strategy

[08.30] How to measure the sustainability impact

[10.28] How Hine's measure their projects

[11.51] Main talking points on social value

Resources:

PREA Real Estate Awards

ULI Center for Sustainability

ULI Sustainability Council

Milan Elsesco Project

Shout outs:

Nor Norm

Covivio

Lisette Van Doorn

Social Enterprise

About Daniel Chang

Daniel is Managing Director & European Head of ESG at Hines which is a global real estate investment, development and property management firm. It was founded by Gerald D. Hines

in 1957 and now operates in 30 countries. They manage nearly $96B1 in high-performing assets across residential, logistics, retail, office, and mixed-use strategies

Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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Unpacking ULI's Report with Lisette Van Dorn

Quote from Guest: "If we don't tackle these issues collectively, there is no industry going forward." Lisette Van Doorn

Summary: Lisette Van Doorn, Chief Executive of ULI Europe, joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 1 of Season 9 where they discuss the growing gap between supply and demand in the office sector.

In this episode Caleb and Lisette discuss the ULI & Instant Group report, the changing customer demands and office assets that may lose value as a result. They also focus on how the industry needs to work more collaboratively together in order to evolve.

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Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn

If you have any questions or feedback on this episode, email [email protected]

Value Bombs:

In this uneasy juxtaposition of the shorthand, long-term challenges in real estate the environmental, social and governance ESG agenda has become the unifying thread that links everyone, regardless of sector. - Caleb

Your tenant is critically looking at whether he wants to stay in the building, not just from demand, but is the space laid out right? The location does it have access to public transport, but also the energy efficiency part and therefore what the tenant pays in total of occupancy costs is hugely important. - Lisette

The office is there to stay. But that doesn't mean that the office stock we have now responds to that. - Lisette

What you've seen in the past two decades is real estate has become a full fledged investment class. And sometimes we seem to forget that real estate is also our infrastructure. - Lisette

CapEx is not a cost. CapEx ensures that your building stays liquid and you have a rental income, and that is not fully understood at the moment. - Lisette

It is a cost, but in the end it helps us to retain the long-term value of our buildings. - Lisette

Timestamps:

[03.18] The gap in commercial real estate

[07.24] The partnership between ULI and The Instant Group

[11.27] The hurdles real estate companies face

[13.54] Regulation and achieving NetZero

[17.02] Does the current valuation realistically represent the actual value of the building?

[17.57] Understanding CapEx

[18.23] The importance of collaborative working

[19.18] ULI's 2023 Conference

[20.38] What is carbon pricing?

[22.25] Can you define carbon emissions?

[24.05] C Change and how people can get involved

Resources:

ULI Report

Instant Group

ULI 2023 Conference

C Change

Road to Zero

About Lisette Van Doorn:

Lisette is the Chief Executive of Urban Land Institute (ULI) Europe, a nonprofit research and education organisation supported by its members,where they work to shape the future of the built environment for transformative impact in communities worldwide.

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Sponsors:

Headline Sponsor: DeltaQ

DeltaQ is a Top 3 European PropTech solution for reducing the carbon footprint of the built environment. Operating from the centre of Brussels, they have developed a solution that learns to predict the behaviour of a building (in context of comfort and energy use) and leverages these predictions to automatically steer the energy systems.

DeltaQ improves comfort while maximising energy and CO2 savings and allows operational teams to turn their attention to added value work instead of repetitive tasks and constant finetuning.

When deployed over a large volume of buildings, DeltaQ will deliver an important contribution to realising the world's ambition in the fight against climate change.

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