The trio is joined this week by hit songwriter, Brett James (“Jesus Take The Wheel” Carrie Underwood, “Mr. Know It All” Kelly Clarkson, “Out Last Night” Kenny Chesney). Brett takes us through his on again, off again relationship with medical school interwoven between record deals and publishing deals, culminating in a surprise season of hits. The crew discusses how to manage your expectations through seasons of ups and downs, enjoying the mentor position in a room with younger writers, and the future of superstardom in the streaming era.

Listen to Brett James' songwriter playlist on Apple Music:

Brett James: The Songwriters

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