Brian speaks with John Rapley. John is an award-winning academic, author and macro-analyst with a focus on applied research in geopolitics, global political economy and policy studies and is a political economist at the University of Cambridge and a Senior Fellow at the Johannesburg Institute for Advanced Studies. John Rapley talks about his recent article: “If the economy crashes, let it burn – in fact, we got here by intervening too much”. We discuss the current banking crisis, housing vs productivity and innovation, the economy, jobs, interest rates, the stock market, and government policies.