Brick & Brand

Happy New Year! This week on Brick & Brand, we're rewinding to the beginning — the first clients, the first wins, and the lessons we never saw coming.

From early wins that felt small on paper but massive emotionally, to the hard lessons that shaped how we work today, we break down what actually builds confidence — and what doesn't. Why caring more beats knowing more. Why not all clients are good clients. And how the moments that almost made us quit ended up becoming the ones that made us better.

It's a raw look at growth, imposter syndrome, early hustle, and the long game of building a career that lasts — plus a few funny failures along the way.

If you're early in your career, in the messy middle, or looking back wondering how you got here — this one's for you.

Brands:

Shiseido

Blue Mercury

This week, we're delivering the episode we've wanted to make since day one — the one that goes straight to the source of everything: our family.

For Christmas, we brought the two people who shaped our entire real estate careers into the studio: our dad, Vince Roche — the self-made OG of retail real estate — and our brother, Sullivan Roche, the next-gen disruptor who lit the path for all of us. And once the mics were on, the stories came out fast: the deal that nearly broke us, the betrayals no one saw coming, the rivalries we pretend don't exist, the truth about who almost quit the business… and who in this family you'd least want sitting across from you at a negotiating table. For the first time, you're getting an insider look at our family business — honest, unfiltered, and straight from the source.

PLUS: a ruthless round of Deal or No Deal: Broker Edition, where we find out just how far each of us would go for the "perfect" deal.

Merry Christmas — let the family chaos begin.

This week on Brick & Brand, we're pulling back the curtain on one of the biggest, messiest, most high-stakes battles in retail real estate: Grocery Wars.

In Dallas, the supermarkets aren't just stores—they're empires. HEB, Costco, BJ's, Kroger… each one staking territory, reshaping neighborhoods, and triggering development waves that change the landscape of entire cities. Meanwhile, in San Diego, the grocery scene is… well, a little less gladiator and a little more hummus sampler.

Join us as we decode the real power players, unveil the strategies happening behind closed doors, and introduce each grocer like they're stepping into a boxing arena. It's a side of retail real estate you've never seen before.

Welcome back to Brick & Brand! Clients ghost. Clients wander. Clients send breakup texts that should honestly be illegal. On this weeks episode, we're unpacking the emotional chaos of client relationships — from red flags to coping strategies — in a way anyone with a job can relate to. Spoiler: it's basically dating…with spreadsheets.

Welcome back to Brick & Brand! In this episode, we introduce you to the real stars of the show — the landlords who guard their buildings like royalty, the brokers juggling twelve personalities and seven crises at once, the attorneys who turn paragraphs into sagas, and the contractors holding everything together with caffeine and prayer. We break down how a deal actually comes together, why nothing in this business is ever as simple as it looks, and how this unlikely cast of opposites manages to (eventually) get the doors open.

Welcome to Brick & Brand! We didn't grow up in boardrooms — we grew up on a farm. Before we ever learned cap rates or LOIs, we learned grit, early mornings, hard work, and what it means to bet on yourself even when the odds aren't glamorous. And somehow, that journey — the mess, the mud, the mayhem — became the foundation for everything we do today in retail real estate.

This episode is the story no one ever tells: how two sisters went from small-town routines to big-city deal flow. How the values we learned in boots and dirt translated into confidence in heels and property tours. And why the leap from dairy farms to deal making isn't as far as it sounds — because at the core of both worlds is one truth: nothing grows without someone willing to put in the work.

Welcome to Brick & Brand! Where retail, real estate, and entrepreneurship collide. Hosted by sisters Delaney and Bretley Roche, this is more than a podcast — it's your inside look at how the ideas, spaces, and stories shaping our cities actually get built...usually on too little sleep and way too much coffee.

From first-time pop-ups to global powerhouses, every episode unpacks the real stories behind building bold brands and iconic spaces.

The future of retail? It's already being built. Premiering December 1st.