Incoming (and again) President Donald Trump promises tariffs and mass deportations and - the way columnist Jay Bookman sees it - it's going to be a "bumpy ride" for Georgians to endure, economically.

He joined me today for a wide-ranging discussion, beginning with his latest op-ed at GeorgiaRecorder.com - covering tariffs, taxes, deportation, root causation of migration, trans attack ads and more.

I also briefly skimmed over traffic guy Doug Turnbull's op-ed in the AJC foreseeing what a second Trump term - along with poor swings at mass transit expansion in the metro - means for traffic in and around Atlanta.