In this special roundtable episode recorded over breakfast at Grind, David chats with two climate tech founders tackling sustainability from very different angles. Kamil Kluza, COO of Climate X, helps businesses adapt to physical climate risks with geospatial insight. Laurence Kemball-Cook, founder of Pavegen, turns footsteps into renewable power. From London's flood defences to kinetic pavements in Riyadh, we explore how real-world innovation is reshaping our response to climate change—and why public engagement and political will are still missing links.

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