On today’s episode, Rachel Vindman, Jasmine Clark, and Amanda Weinstein are joined by not one but TWO amazing Paris women: Katie Paris, the founder of Red Wine & Blue, and her mother-in-law Debby Paris, a child psychologist. Katie tells the hosts about the amazing response to Book Ban Busters, how much coverage it’s been getting in the media, and (most importantly!) how it’s been translating into real organizing action.

After that, they’re joined by her incredible MIL Deb, who explains why “sheltering” our kids from American history is the exact opposite thing we should be doing if we want to instill good values and healthy coping mechanisms. Any conversation with Deb feels like a bona fide therapy session, and this chat was no exception. Our hosts came into today’s episode really feeling the frustrations of the current political climate, but after some uplifting news from Katie and some sage wisdom from Deb, they left feeling ready to tackle the problems of the world once again.  We hope you feel the same.

Finally, our hosts raise a glass to keeping our heads above water, getting away for a quick trip, and Amanda’s son’s birthday in this week’s “Toast to Joy.”

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