On this episode, we were joined via Zoom by the delightful Caleb Azumah Nelson, author of the acclaimed debut novel "Open Water." In this conversation, Caleb spoke to us about his unique background, his inspirations, his love of music and photography, and his cultural touchstones like Zadie Smith and the 2016 feature film, Moonlight. He also waxes lyrical about the myriad pleasures of deepest Southeast London, perhaps a city unto itself.

Additionally, Matt and I do an extended ramble in the introduction about our favourite debut novels from the recent past (and not-so-recent past). However, if you are just here to listen to a brilliant author speak, the conversation with him begins at 7:32.