Recorded in New York City where it all began, Dre and Em reflect on how everything in life unfolds in systems, patterns, seasons, and cycles.

They circle around their love–hate relationship with social media, exploring the irony of creating a podcast about connection while spending so much time in virtual spaces and what happens to our nervous systems, creativity, and sense of belonging when we finally gather in person.

They also touch on the rise of "outsourced intimacy" from dating apps to digital wellness and how we're losing the art of being with one another. Together, they reframe what's "hard," remind us that giving and receiving are two sides of the same gift, and share stories that reveal how mindset creates reality.

They end with a call to connection: step away from the screen, gather your people, and create an opportunity to engage with one another in real life. Because luck and love aren't random. We create them.

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