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Today's episode features Dr. Jordan Hyatt, an associate professor in the Department of Criminology and Justice Studies at Drexel University, where he also sits as director of the Center for Public Policy. 

 In this episode we discuss:

• a pilot program in a Pennsylvania prison that is attempting to emulate the Scandinavian prison model
• how the prison environment impacts correctional officers
• whether it's possible for prisons to be humane places

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