A conversation with people in power...

Sounds like lots of British communities have strained relationships with the police right now, especially since the murder of Sarah Everard and response on the TL. People are anxious and calling for change...

So, today we're looking for solutions.

Chris Excell, who's a serving Met police officer and chair of the Black Police Association, gets together with Sal Naseem, who's the national discrimination lead at the Independent Office for Police Conduct, to talk through what's been going on.

Hosts: De-Graft Mensah & Roshan Roberts