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Cardinals Broadcaster and Former Pitcher Brad Thompson: From Mound to Mic
Dive into the fascinating world of professional baseball and sports talk radio with our latest episode featuring Brad Thompson. From dreams of playing in the big leagues in Las Vegas to winning the World Series with the St. Louis Cardinals in 2006. As a former St. Louis Cardinals player turned broadcaster, Brad unfolds his inspiring transition from the baseball diamond to the airwaves. Brett and Brad talk about 2024 season predictions and some of the favorites in Major League Baseball. Tune in for an insightful conversation blending baseball, MLB insights, and the business of sports. ⚾? Don’t miss this episode of The Circuit of Success!
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I’ve got my buddy, Brad Thompson.
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What’s up, Brad? How are you doing? I’m
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doing great, man. Thanks for having me. I
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was getting bored at the house. I’m glad
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somebody called finally. Well, yeah. You’re doing radio
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now, what? Part time. Is that right? Yeah.
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Filling in a little bit. It’s it’s been
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a change for me. It’s been, as you
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know, I was doing drive time radio,
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on one of 1PM on the fast lane
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for, like, last ten years.
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This past year doing more baseball games, with
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the cardinals, which Brad a blast doing. Season
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didn’t go exactly I had a lot of
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fun doing the games. I’m sure we’ll get
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into that, but,
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I scaled back my work on that side.
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So now I’m not doing that every day,
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and I’m, I’m reintroducing myself of the family
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in the off season. My dog’s not barking
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at me now, so that’s good. Who the
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hell? I’m just gonna change. Yeah. It’s a
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big change. It is a big change, man.
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Well, You are a blast, as I’ve told
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you a million times to watch on, the
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television. I think you do a great job
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with the games. And even despite the season
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we Brad, It was, that’s gotta be tough,
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which I’m gonna ask that later. But, for
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those that don’t know you, two thousand six
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world series champ ESPN Radio, as you mentioned,
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announcer for the Saint Louis cardinals.
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Just an all around great guy, but just
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give us a little bit of lay of
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the background of people that, again, that maybe
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not know who you are. What’s made you
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the man you are today? Yeah. Well, look,
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I I I never
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expected
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or intended to be where I am right
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now. In o’fallon, Illinois live here.
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In the media at all that was never
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a thought. I just saw it was a
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kid who grew up in Las Vegas, Nevada,
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and, I just love playing baseball.
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And,
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it’s
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you generally hear
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people’s story of how they made it to
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the big leagues, and it’s oftentimes the same
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story. It’s like, oh, he’s the best player
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on this team, the best player on his
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high school team, two way player hit home
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runs, played shortstop. That is not my story,
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like, at all. I don’t think I was
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ever the best player on any team that
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I played on, and I’m not talking about
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any big league teams, like Albert Pujols and
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all these guys running around. I’m talking about,
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like, Timmy that picks his boogers wasn’t even
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the best player on on that team growing
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up, but I always loved it. And I
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always, worked hard, and I was just always
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there. Like, you know, I and think that’s
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one of the the biggest things whenever I
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have an opportunity to talk to kids. You
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don’t have to be the best player on
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the team. You don’t have to have the
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best skill set You have to care. You
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have to want to get better and you
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have to work. And if you do those
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things, opportunities might come. And that was the
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case for me. Out of high school, I
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got an opportunity
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right before school was about to start to
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go to a smaller junior college in Utah,
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at the time, Dixie State College,
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now Utah Tech d one school now, but
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a junior college back in the day. And,
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snuck on there did well,
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after my second year there ended up getting
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drafted by the cardinals, and it was just
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a kind of a a whirlwind. Spent two
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years in the minor leagues.
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And a month into my third year, a
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guy called up to the big leagues and
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made a career out of it. And it
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wasn’t the easiest. I I’m well traveled, Brett.
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You know that. I know I know the
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way from Saint Louis to Memphis really well.
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Big leagues to triple a. The ups and
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downs of have been incredibly blessed though to
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be able to to play the game that
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I love and do it as a living
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and now jump into this, which again, wasn’t
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unexpected. Yeah. I think I owe you a
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couple lunches still from little kids baseball. Can
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we talk about that on a podcast? Yes.
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We didn’t do that. We did not bet
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on lunch and his kids We just had
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webs my kids team all the time. And
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We had hunches of gonna lie. I had
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a hunch. Yeah. You were you were betting
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with your heart. It was crazy. Like, he
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didn’t even have a chance, but, hey, we,
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we tried to make happened. So I was
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gonna ask you too. Have you, have you
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seen Tiger Woods lately?
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No. Have you? No. Just in spring training.
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Just in spring. When you and I were
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creeping his restaurant. Damn. So what’s that private
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party out there? Looks like an awful lot
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of security for just a normal private party,
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doesn’t it? You and I are peaking. Yeah.
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Tiger was there. Tucker was there. We were
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in the same restaurant. We’re having dinner, Brad
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and I. And,
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well, my gosh, that’s a lot of people.
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I think I even tried to go to
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the restroom and turn right. And Sorry. You
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gotta go this way. Exactly.
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And then we found out, I think, wasn’t
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it you or me? Somebody got a text
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that Tiger Woods. They didn’t know we were
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there at the restaurant. They’re like Tiger Woods
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is at his restaurant Jupiter, and I’m like,
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oh, crap. We missed him. Yeah. Head his,
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like, daughter, soccer, partner, some either way, I
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think that we could say we had, dinner
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with tag. We had dinner with tags or
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did. Yeah. They were signed their their giveaway.
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You know, my kids, they give away like,
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you know, sour patch kids. I think Tiger’s
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end of the year party. They had signed
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soccer balls from Tiger Woods. That’s pretty good.
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And a whole new bag of clubs. A
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whole new bag of clubs. Well, good for
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them. So,
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let’s talk about post based ball career, man.
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So,
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and you and you already mentioned this, but
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what what did you think you were gonna
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be doing versus what you’re doing now? Yeah.
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So before I ended up signing with the
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cardinals, I had signed to after junior college.
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I was gonna go back to Las Vegas
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go to UN LV. I signed to play,
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there for the for the rebels.
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And my goal was to go into
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criminal justice. I wanted to be an attorney.
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Is is kind of the direction that I
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thought I was heading.
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And, obviously, did not go that route, but
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that was, like, the thought that go get
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into criminal justice. I I thought I wanted
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to go the route of attorney.
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And, that was gonna be the path. Now
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the path took me through baseball. And it
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was tough decision to make at the time
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too because
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I had the chance to get have my
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school paid for potentially get drafted higher maybe
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the next year, make make maybe a little
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bit more money out of the draft, which
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I didn’t make a lot of money. But
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I also thought what if what if I
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never get this chance again? What if I
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never have an opportunity
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to say that I played professional baseball. I
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can always go back to school. Yep. But
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I can’t always get this chance again. So
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ultimately, I landed on that decision.
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And so so grateful that I did. But
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you had never thought that the media side
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was gonna be a thing. And honestly, it
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was it wasn’t even on the radar. I
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wasn’t sure, Brett, what direction I gonna go.
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I knew I was nearing the end of
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my baseball career. I was playing independent ball
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for those that don’t know independent baseball is
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It’s still professional baseball. You get paid. Not
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a lot. You get paid nonetheless, but it’s
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just not affiliated with one of the major
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league teams. I was playing in, the Atlantic
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League which baseball fans will know what the
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Atlantic League is. It’s also been a league
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that’s kinda broken. Some of these major league
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baseball new rules before baseball breaks him in.
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Yeah.
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But a lot of former big leaguers, good
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baseball league. But I was playing there, and
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I just kinda I knew that I was
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I got it. Velocity wasn’t coming back. I
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had Tommy John surgery in twenty ten. And
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for those that know me well, velocity was
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never my thing anyhow. So losing a tick
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off the radar gun, we not a big
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thing, but I got a phone call in
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the off season,
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and this was prior to my final year
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of playing.
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And it was from program director at 01:01
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ESPN. I’m sure I’ve told you this story
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in the past, but he called me and
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said, Hey, I got your number from Chris
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Duncan.
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And Cardinal fans. Remember Chris Duncan. Good. Take
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time. Yeah, man. One of my best friends
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ever, unfortunately, passed away, Brad cancer
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and this was in the beginning of it.
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Dunk was was Brad to leave for some
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medic his, you know, medical issues. And program
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director called and said, Dunk passed along your
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number.
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I said he thought you would be good
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at this.
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Could you fill in on a Monday?
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I said, my wife probably wants me out
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of the house right now. It’s the office.
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Can you pay me a couple bucks? Yeah.
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I’m gonna sit around. I’m gonna sit around
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and watch football all weekend anyhow. That’s probably
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what you’re gonna talk about come Monday. I
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did. And I took over the weekend. It
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was like copious notes, just like you, you’re
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a note taker. Right? I’m Brett down all
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these college games these NFL games, like, come
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in. I get this stack of notes ready
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to go. I didn’t know what to expect.
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I never grew up. I didn’t listen to
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sports talk radio. I didn’t know how big
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of a thing that was. And, like, that
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actually really eye opening to me over the
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years of the connection you can have with
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the fan base actually doing that, but I
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I never had that.
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So one segment in, I get called out
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into the hallway.
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And I’ve said, oh, I must’ve said a
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magic word. I said one of the things
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that you can’t say here.
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And I said, did did that happen? He’s
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like, no. No. He’s like, you’re really good.
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Would you mind staying the rest of the
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week? I said, yeah. Would love to stay
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the rest of the week. And that rest
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of the week turned into the rest of
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the off season, which actually turned into before
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I was going to play, and what what
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was gonna be my final, you know, final
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year didn’t know it at the time.
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But they offered me a full time position.
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At that time,
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on a morning show.
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I said, man, I I I really appreciate
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the opportunity.
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Can’t do it. Like, I need to know
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that baseball’s done. Because the last thing
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that I wanted was to be sitting there
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and doing a job that I like,
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but wondering what could that have been like,
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you know, had I gone back? Maybe I
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found something or maybe magically the arm reappeared.
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Now, fortunately. The arm didn’t reappear, Brett. None
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of that stuff happened. I didn’t want that
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thought. I didn’t want that doubt that, that
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I did the wrong thing. So I went
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back and played. And after a few months
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in, I just knew the timing wasn’t right.
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My wife Andrea, she was pregnant with our
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our first with our first.
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He was born in May. I came home
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for a week.
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And I was like, man, I I’m this
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isn’t the place for me. I got I’ve
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gotta be done. I need to go home.
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I need to be with my family, and
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I need to figure out what is next.
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So I made the phone call, back to
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one one ESPN. I say, Hey, any chance
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you guys still got that job
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sitting there? And he said, we’ve been keeping
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a spot open for you. It ended up
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being in the afternoon show at the with
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Randy Carricker and Demarco Farris. If you’re ready
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to come back, we’re ready to have you.
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I said, well It was just the two
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of them at the time, maybe? Okay. Yep.
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And because it was the three. Chris Duncan
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was the third on that show. And they
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they had left that one open. And,
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fortunately,
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I was able to slide into that, that
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spot and learn so much from them Randy
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Carrick are one of my biggest mentors, and
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I love the way that Demarco Far, who’s,
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you know, he’s now in LA, followed the
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Rams out there.
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I love the way that he went about
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it, the energy and the excitement that he
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had and just kinda feeding off those guys
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and learning along the way and try not
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saying to magic words to get fired. And
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ten years later, you know, here we are.
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It’s amazing. Absolutely amazing. And I I think,
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you know, it’s crazy when you think about
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your career path, what you thought gonna happen.
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I think so many times, you know, we
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do planning for a living. Right? And it’s
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like,
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I plan these things, but, you know, there’s
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other sometimes other plans. And you just don’t
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know what they are. I think when you
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just gotta have trust and you gotta have
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faith and you gotta do great work and
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show up every day. And because I’m sure
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there was days I’ve talked to other players
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that when you when you
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retire, and that thing you love is gone.
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And Yeah. Arguably gone forever, right, that that’s
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probably pretty emotional. And So to find that
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next gear, what what was that process like
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for you
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to find out, and, obviously, you landed into
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that. But was there that emotional thing where
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you had to, like, think and journal and
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dream and do whatever? Oh, you’re huge.
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It was I still remember
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very vividly the drive home. So middle of
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the season Gilliland
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I had, I had given
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my, my manager the heads up, just told
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him I’d say, hey, I’ll stay here as
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long as
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you need to find a replacement for me,
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but I gotta go. I gotta I’m I’m
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ready to go home. He tried to talk
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me into being the pitching coach. I said,
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I I can’t. I gotta And what town
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was that again? This is somerset, New Jersey.
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Okay. Said said, you know, be on the
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same page. She was here. Yeah. She was
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here. Newborn son is here.
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So it it was it was
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flattering that they wanted to keep me around
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and wanted me to be around the team
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and maybe that would have started a new
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patch. Maybe that would have been coaching and
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and going from there. But,
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my heart was here. Right? Had had to
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go home, but I remember the drive. It
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was so bad of calling everybody, calling family,
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calling, like, my wife, Yeah. That’s it. Like,
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it’s a last road trip. So it’s, that’s
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emotional, right, when you’re when you’re going through
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it. But you also know, like, you know,
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something’s over. You know when it’s time to
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move on, and that’s where we were at.
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We were at that that that point. So
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when it comes to like finding a passion
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for a new thing,
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whatever I do, I try to, like, jump
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into. I try to just roll in. The
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energy, the enthusiasm, whether whether it’s it’s doing
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radio, it’s doing an interview,
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hanging out with the family, like, try to
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jump in. There are days where maybe you
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don’t feel like that. Mhmm. But it’s amazing
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if you come in with that attitude as
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you very well know,
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that’s how your day starts going. Right? So,
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I kinda poured into it and it started
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when I got that phone call. Like I
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said, I’m taking the notes and I’m saying,
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if I’m gonna do this, I’m gonna do
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I’m not just gonna show up. And I’ve
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seen this a lot now, especially being in
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the business. You see a lot of former
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athletes
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show up and say, I played. I got
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this. Yeah. And then you’re you’re talking to
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him for a little bit or they’re speaking.
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It’s like, he doesn’t he doesn’t have this.
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Like, it’s it’s very obvious that it’s it’s
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not an easy thing to do. I think
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a lot of people at home are are
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saying, boss, easy. I watch sports, easy to
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talk about. Sure. So sometimes sometimes it is.
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Other times, it takes it takes different little
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avenues or or nuances
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to to get through it. So But it’s
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also, like, you gotta you gotta know, you
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know, when to talk, you gotta know when
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your voice goes up. Right? There’s more to
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it than just, oh, I know about Yes.
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Well, and that’s something that you learn as
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you go to. Yeah. And that is something
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that I’ve had to learn a lot more
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with the TV side of things as I’ve
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been doing those ball games for the last
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couple of years is the
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the picture is there on the screen. So
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I can’t be talking about something that maybe
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even I, like, I care about it a
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lot, whatever. I’ve got a good story. If
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they’re showing on the screen, it’s Miles Michaelis
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or whoever, that’s who we’re talking about or
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that, like, that’s what the story is at
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the time. You have to know when to
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get in, when to get out, but it’s
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reps. Yeah. And it’s caring about that. And
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it’s realizing when you mess something up because
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I in my line of work, I know
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when I mess something up, it’s very evident.
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Like, usually there’s producer near yourself. What was
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that? Don’t do it. Nothing. But you you
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care enough to fix it and just going
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back to the jumping into a new thing.
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This is another thing I like to tell
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kids when I get an opportunity or adults.
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It’s a good thing to remember,
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you never know when an opportunity is gonna
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come your way. Yeah. You never know. Nope.
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You know when one passes you, though. Like,
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you know when something just walks out the
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door and say, I should have done that.
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So I wanna be ready for that. I
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wanna be ready for whatever that next opportunity
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is. Yeah. And I I always talk to
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the old paralysis by analysis. Right? You could
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have that opportunity, but so many people will
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go back and they gotta
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think and think and think. And then what
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happens is they think themselves out of it.
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Yeah. This is a great idea because AB
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and see, but then that negative thought up
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here in our mind says, well, I can’t
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do it because I’m this, and I’m that.
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And I think so many times what try
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to help people with is just just take
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action. That’s one of the circuits on the
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circuit of success. Take action. Doesn’t mean you
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have the whole thing figured out. But if
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you trust yourself, again, I’ve said it a
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million times, you show up to work every
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day.
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Good things are probably gonna happen. For sure.
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Right? So liking this to baseball. Okay? Because
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this happens a lot nowadays, paralysis by analysis.
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We have all of this data. We have
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all of these analytics.
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One of my one of the most important
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things I believe for any athlete is trust
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your gut. Like, trust you, believe in your
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stuff. I don’t care, if this guy can’t
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hit this or can’t do that, what do
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you do well? Yeah. What is your strength?
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And I think that’s one of the biggest
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things in any walk of life. Like, what
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what is your strength? Do you trust in
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what you’re doing? If you trust in what
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you’re doing, good things are gonna happen. It
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might not be the direct route that you’re
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expecting it to happen might not be just
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a to b very easy, but you’ll get
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there at some point if you believe in
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what you’re doing. That’s right. Yeah. A hundred
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percent. I’ve I think about
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I my first job out of college, I
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was there for about, six weeks. I don’t
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think I’ve ever told this on the podcast,
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but,
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I was there for six weeks. I was
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in the financial He’s at a different firm.
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And I got a call on a Tuesday
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night that the guy that I was supposed
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to have lunch with the next day, my
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mentor,
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who I’d never met. Yeah. Tomorrow was the
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big day. Right? Here am twenty two years
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old. We’re living in this tiny condo in
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Saint Louis. My wife’s got an internship at
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Barnes.
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We had one car, and I’m gonna go
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this lunch. I get the call on Tuesday.
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He actually,
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died by suicide. Oh my god. And,
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jumped off a building, actually. And and so
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here I am, this twenty two year old
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kid, I’m getting ready to go start literally
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to knock on doors and try to build
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a business and, you know, got acne. I’m
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like, I look like I’m twelve. You know,
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I’m like, hey, give me your money.
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And so I said I’m never gonna be
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in financial planning. I’m never gonna do investments.
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That’s just not my deal. I actually went
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to Bush Stadium. I was gonna the next,
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you know, now jump as they lucked at
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the time, Mark Lamping. That’s what I thought
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I was gonna do. I applied for a
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job. They said, we don’t have any jobs,
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but not a bartender? I said, yeah. I
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know the bartender. They said, we need a
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bartender for the game tonight. So if the
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old bush that you played in, right, they
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had remember the left field at the stadium
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club. Yeah. Yeah. How’s the bartender in there?
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Long story short, I got another call from
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a company that said, come in. Let’s do
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an interview. I said, look, I’ll come in
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for the practice. I was very upfront. Well,
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I spent twelve and a half years there.
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Now ten years of visionary, and I’ve done
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nothing but investment. That’s good practice. Right. Good
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practice. But the point to that is what
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what is the point of that story. Right?
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Right? But I think the point is is
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you never know because what you said, you
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never know where it’s gonna go. How you
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take it, and then you take it to
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the next level by what you put into
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it. Gilliland,
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like, to your earlier point, a tragic event,
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obviously, with with with your mentor,
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but
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that life is not your life. You know?
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Like, there are different things weighing on him
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than weighing on you. It’s not necessarily the
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industry that you’re in. Don’t care if you
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you could be in the happiest industry in
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the world or the saddest industry in the
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world. You’d be in the happiest industry and
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be a sad person. You could be, a
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sad industry and be a happy person. It’s
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your mindset. It’s the way that that you
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go about it, and you just gotta be
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ready for when that one pops up. But
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that is like, I’m thinking about the conversation
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that you had. It was marked lamping at
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the time. Yeah. So and who runs the
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jaguars now. Right? So Oh, I think that’s
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right. I I I’m just picturing. It’s like,
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I’m interested in this job. No, but bartending.
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Yeah. Like, that’s, like, what what a drastic?
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What just happened? Let’s see if this kid
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will do that. Yeah. He will. Yeah. But
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that’s one of the things too. Like, in
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and this is a big thing in the
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radio industry. If someone asks you, hey, can
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you do x, y, or z. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yes. I can. I can do that. And
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you can dig in, you figure it out.
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It can you interview so and so? You
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might be a young producer
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Yeah. I can do that. That’s a chance.
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Like, that is an opportunity. You might be
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scared to death. Nobody knows what you’re feeling.
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Nobody knows what you’re thinking as you’re going
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through it. Take the opportunity. The answer is
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yes. Can you do it? Yes. I’ll figure
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it out. Yeah. Well, Danny Max said in
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this podcast. He said he started with he
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was running tapes or whatever they called it
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back in. Right? He’s like, literally, it’d be
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on a cart. I’d run him from one
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room to the other so the guys could
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talk about on the air. Yes.
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Cut up tape. And Yeah. It’s crazy. So,
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how did you how do how do you
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draw up on your playing career?
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Now being an announcer. Do you think back
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to your playing days? Like, does that play
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a role in the in the booth? Yeah.
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It does. I I think back to more
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so, like, than referencing my career, which is
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lack luster. Like, I’m actually gonna go back.
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Serious champ, darn right. I’m gonna have you
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say that a few more times as we
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go through this. No. More so I think
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about all, I think about emotions. I think
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about the emotions of what a player is
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going through at a given time because it
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is very easy to sit where we sit,
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you’re high up, and you’re you’re watching on
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a screen, you see the field in front
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of you, game looks easy. Like, it looks
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really easy when you’re watching at home, you’re
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a couple of cold beers. Like, why didn’t
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he hit that ball down the middle that
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I realized I’ve I’ve stood in that batter’s
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box. I’ve been on that amount. I’ve done
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it during the regular season. I’ve done it
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in the post season. I’ve done it in
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the world series. It is a different perspective
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when you’re actually going through it and things
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aren’t that easy. So that’s one of the
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things that I really try to remember
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when I’m in the booth and I’m doing
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games. It’s not that easy. So
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I’m not gonna also lie to somebody when
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you’re watching the game. I’m not gonna spit
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on you and tell you it’s raining. Right.
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When something is bad, it’s bad. But I’ll
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frame it in a way where, hey, nine
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times out of ten, he’s gonna make that
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play. Yeah. Because I believe that. Yeah. You
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know, I I believe that the the good
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things are gonna outweigh the bad things you
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have to mention the bad things. I talked
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about the bad season that the cardinals had.
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Twenty games under five hundred. It’s hard to
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sugar coat that. Right? But also have to
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believe in the fact that you didn’t have
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a losing season,
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since o seven before that. We’re very spoiled.
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Yeah. And you know that good things are
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gonna be on the horizon also, but Yeah.
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I I always go back to being in
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those shoes, what it’s like. And then the
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other thing that I lean on a lot
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is the preparation. I know what the preparation
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was like as a player. I know how
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I would dig in and learn about these
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hitters. Now there’s far more information now than
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there was when I was playing. And maybe
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too much information for some guys. I think
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that’s one of the biggest challenges is how
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to spoon feed some of these players the
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information that they need without giving them the
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quote unquote analytics because Some guys can’t really
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handle the numbers of it but need the
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information.
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But I I think about that. And a
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lot of times maybe you’ll hear me during
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a broadcast
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thinking ahead. Say, hey,
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if if in this spot, I would go
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with this slider down the way right here.
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Well, I’ve scouted him just like the pitcher
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scouted him. I scout the other teams, tendencies,
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and all that stuff. So ahead of time,
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I I feel like I know what direction
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they should be going in. Now that So
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you watch film as, I mean Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:12.000 –> 00:21:15.000
I watch video breakdown, scouting reports, all that
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fun stuff before games. I nerd out with
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it now, Brad. Like, this is what you
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do in your hotel room? I do. I
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guess they’re on the Brad, and I’m
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digging into video and watching, you know, hitters
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against the left. Do you have, like, the
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iPad that same when the players are watching
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the same I don’t get their good proprietary
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information. I have to dig in and find
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my own. I should really call in some
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favors and get good stuff.
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The broadcast. All the search engine stuff. But,
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no, it it really is. It’s fun. And
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it’s it’s like anything else. Say, I I
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dig in and do this thing because I
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wanna inform the viewer. Yep. And I want
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to be right. Like, there’s a pride in
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I’m not just saying stuff to say stuff,
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but there’s also the humbling nature of baseball’s
00:21:56.000 –> 00:21:59.000
ever changing. Yeah. And somebody’s thought process is
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totally different. I might know from my and
00:22:01.000 –> 00:22:03.000
this goes back to trusting yourself. I might
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know from my research that I did in
00:22:05.000 –> 00:22:06.000
my hotel room in Milwaukee,
00:22:07.000 –> 00:22:09.000
sitting there that o two
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slider down in a way. That is the
00:22:11.000 –> 00:22:14.000
best pitch for Gilliland Thompson. He’ll miss it
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by a mile. I don’t know what the
00:22:16.000 –> 00:22:18.000
guy on the mound feels when he grips
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his tighter. Yeah. There are times where a
00:22:19.000 –> 00:22:21.000
pitch in your hand feels amazing. There are
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times where even if you know in your
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head it’s a right pitch, you grip the
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baseball. I said, this Gilliland then you switch
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it to another grip, you say, this is
00:22:27.000 –> 00:22:29.000
the pitch I want. Let’s go with this
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one. So, like, that’s where, like, the human
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element really plays in the game of base
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one. I love that. Well, and and also
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you don’t know what he did last night.
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You don’t know if he got an argument
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with his spouse, you know, three hours before
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the game. Right? There’s so much emotion So
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for you, how much of it playing you’re
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playing days? How much of it was physical
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versus, you know, emotional or psychological I I
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think it’s a good balance. The the physical
00:22:52.000 –> 00:22:54.000
part of it during the season, at least
00:22:54.000 –> 00:22:57.000
for me, was maintenance. That was you maintain
00:22:57.000 –> 00:22:59.000
the arm care. You maintain all of the
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stuff that you worked hard in the winter
00:23:01.000 –> 00:23:02.000
to grow. Like,
00:23:02.000 –> 00:23:05.000
that was the growing part of it. But
00:23:05.000 –> 00:23:07.000
playing a big league season, a hundred and
00:23:07.000 –> 00:23:08.000
sixty two games in a hundred and eighty
00:23:08.000 –> 00:23:10.000
something days, like, it’s a lot. It is
00:23:10.000 –> 00:23:13.000
a rigorous thing. So that’s where the mental
00:23:13.000 –> 00:23:14.000
part it comes in. And I did this
00:23:14.000 –> 00:23:16.000
at mainly as a bullpen guy. I started
00:23:16.000 –> 00:23:18.000
a bit in my career too, but mainly
00:23:18.000 –> 00:23:20.000
as a bullpen guy, everyday players that have
00:23:20.000 –> 00:23:22.000
to answer the bell every day, That’s a
00:23:22.000 –> 00:23:25.000
different animal. You go over four, like, three
00:23:25.000 –> 00:23:27.000
days in a row Yeah. And still being
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able to put in the work, and that’s
00:23:28.000 –> 00:23:30.000
where having a routine, and and Brett, I
00:23:30.000 –> 00:23:31.000
know you’re huge on routine
00:23:32.000 –> 00:23:34.000
and just having something that you could rely
00:23:34.000 –> 00:23:36.000
on day in and day out. To me,
00:23:36.000 –> 00:23:37.000
that’s the biggest thing. You put in the
00:23:37.000 –> 00:23:40.000
work. You do during the season and the
00:23:40.000 –> 00:23:43.000
off season. You do what you know
00:23:43.000 –> 00:23:45.000
has made you successful in the past. And
00:23:45.000 –> 00:23:47.000
even if you don’t get the results, you
00:23:47.000 –> 00:23:48.000
yourself in the mirror at the end of
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the night and say, hey, I did everything
00:23:50.000 –> 00:23:51.000
that I could. I’m gonna do it again
00:23:51.000 –> 00:23:53.000
tomorrow. So being able to answer the bell
00:23:53.000 –> 00:23:55.000
and being able to be consistent in the
00:23:55.000 –> 00:23:57.000
game of ball. That’s the hardest thing. Yeah.
00:23:57.000 –> 00:23:59.000
Like, it stinks to be the guy that
00:23:59.000 –> 00:24:02.000
is standing there on the mound at wrigley
00:24:02.000 –> 00:24:04.000
as they start playing that go cubs go
00:24:04.000 –> 00:24:06.000
song. You know what I walk you off.
00:24:06.000 –> 00:24:08.000
Oh, yeah. That sucks. That’s a bad feeling.
00:24:09.000 –> 00:24:10.000
You gotta be ready the next day. Sort
00:24:10.000 –> 00:24:12.000
of the next yeah. That next opportunity might
00:24:12.000 –> 00:24:15.000
be there in often times. Managers just like
00:24:15.000 –> 00:24:18.000
a any manager in any business will likely
00:24:18.000 –> 00:24:20.000
put you right back into that situation again
00:24:20.000 –> 00:24:22.000
to see how you react to it. Are
00:24:22.000 –> 00:24:24.000
you ready for? And I always wanted to
00:24:24.000 –> 00:24:26.000
be ready. My ID is kicking in. So
00:24:26.000 –> 00:24:28.000
my I’m bouncing between your playing guys in
00:24:28.000 –> 00:24:29.000
your fave too. Okay. Good.
00:24:30.000 –> 00:24:31.000
I made me think you told me a
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story one time. I thought it was hilarious.
00:24:33.000 –> 00:24:34.000
Your Scott Rolling story. I think you probably
00:24:34.000 –> 00:24:36.000
know where I’m going. There’s a lot of
00:24:36.000 –> 00:24:37.000
Scott Rolling stories and you were fortunate enough
00:24:37.000 –> 00:24:38.000
I think to go to the hall of
00:24:38.000 –> 00:24:40.000
fame thing. I didn’t go to Oh, you
00:24:40.000 –> 00:24:42.000
did. I was working, working the games. But
00:24:42.000 –> 00:24:43.000
I know what you’re talking
00:24:44.000 –> 00:24:46.000
about. Yeah. Well, I let’s be honest. I
00:24:46.000 –> 00:24:48.000
helped Scott get Paul of Fame. All those
00:24:48.000 –> 00:24:50.000
rockets that I gave up down the line
00:24:50.000 –> 00:24:52.000
that he made these high life plays on.
00:24:52.000 –> 00:24:54.000
No. It was an absolute honor to Brett
00:24:54.000 –> 00:24:57.000
teammates with Scott rolling. And when I when
00:24:57.000 –> 00:24:58.000
I got called up to the big leagues,
00:24:58.000 –> 00:25:00.000
it was two thousand five. It was a
00:25:00.000 –> 00:25:01.000
little over a month, I think, end of
00:25:01.000 –> 00:25:03.000
the season. And I still remember
00:25:03.000 –> 00:25:05.000
walking in
00:25:05.000 –> 00:25:07.000
Bush Stadium. And it was, you know, bush
00:25:07.000 –> 00:25:10.000
to older stadium. I remember the doors opening
00:25:10.000 –> 00:25:12.000
like it’s a movie scene Albert Poolholz is
00:25:12.000 –> 00:25:16.000
walking this way. Matt Morris, Scott Rolling, Reggie
00:25:16.000 –> 00:25:19.000
Sanders, like, guys just like legends. Yes.
00:25:20.000 –> 00:25:21.000
I mean, it was it was I was
00:25:21.000 –> 00:25:23.000
like a kid. I was like a little
00:25:23.000 –> 00:25:25.000
literally like a kid. Twenty three years old,
00:25:25.000 –> 00:25:28.000
baby face. They they barely let me in
00:25:28.000 –> 00:25:30.000
the stadium. They had get somebody come in.
00:25:30.000 –> 00:25:31.000
Nobody the hell is this? Yeah. Nobody believe
00:25:31.000 –> 00:25:33.000
that I actually played. They laughed at me.
00:25:33.000 –> 00:25:33.000
But,
00:25:34.000 –> 00:25:36.000
the Scott Rolling story is when I did
00:25:36.000 –> 00:25:39.000
make my major league debut, you. It was
00:25:39.000 –> 00:25:41.000
Mother’s Day two thousand five. And I remember
00:25:41.000 –> 00:25:43.000
jogging in from the bullpen. And I think
00:25:43.000 –> 00:25:45.000
I made the mistake of looking around, even
00:25:45.000 –> 00:25:47.000
though they say you should soak up the
00:25:47.000 –> 00:25:49.000
moment. Sometimes maybe should be laser focused. I
00:25:49.000 –> 00:25:50.000
don’t know. But I I did this one.
00:25:50.000 –> 00:25:53.000
I started looking around. Oh my god. I
00:25:53.000 –> 00:25:53.000
mean,
00:25:55.000 –> 00:25:57.000
and surrounding you too. You know, the the
00:25:57.000 –> 00:25:59.000
difference in the stadium, it was Gilliland it
00:25:59.000 –> 00:26:01.000
was all the way around you. And I
00:26:01.000 –> 00:26:03.000
get in, I throw my warm up pitches,
00:26:04.000 –> 00:26:06.000
last pitch I throw to it was yachty.
00:26:07.000 –> 00:26:08.000
Throw yachty. He throws it down. They throw
00:26:08.000 –> 00:26:10.000
it around the horn. Yeah. And your third
00:26:10.000 –> 00:26:12.000
baseman comes creeping in. He’s getting the last
00:26:12.000 –> 00:26:15.000
guy to receive the ball. Third baseman, obviously,
00:26:15.000 –> 00:26:16.000
the hall of famer Scott rolling.
00:26:17.000 –> 00:26:18.000
He has the ball. He’s holding in his
00:26:18.000 –> 00:26:20.000
hand. He looks at me. He looks around
00:26:20.000 –> 00:26:22.000
like I did earlier.
00:26:22.000 –> 00:26:24.000
He’s like, Hey, your parents make it in
00:26:24.000 –> 00:26:26.000
town? I go, no. They’re not here yet,
00:26:26.000 –> 00:26:27.000
mister Rolling. They’re be here next week. I
00:26:27.000 –> 00:26:29.000
think I I think I missed it rolling
00:26:29.000 –> 00:26:31.000
him. He goes, yeah. A lot of people
00:26:31.000 –> 00:26:33.000
here. Well, good luck. And he flicked his
00:26:33.000 –> 00:26:36.000
face off. It was like, okay. Okay, mister
00:26:36.000 –> 00:26:38.000
Rolling. Sorry. It was as awesome. Good luck,
00:26:38.000 –> 00:26:40.000
kid. Yeah. Have fun. Let’s see what you
00:26:40.000 –> 00:26:41.000
do with it was
00:26:42.000 –> 00:26:42.000
it was
00:26:43.000 –> 00:26:45.000
a really fun experience, obviously, to make a
00:26:45.000 –> 00:26:47.000
majorly debut. So memorable with that. And it’s
00:26:47.000 –> 00:26:48.000
also,
00:26:49.000 –> 00:26:50.000
really nice to know you have a safety
00:26:50.000 –> 00:26:52.000
net like that over at third base where
00:26:52.000 –> 00:26:55.000
anything that you hit that way, you never
00:26:55.000 –> 00:26:56.000
had to look at the left side of
00:26:56.000 –> 00:26:58.000
the field. Yeah. Because Hammer, David, Xstein, was
00:26:58.000 –> 00:26:58.000
gonna pick it
00:26:59.000 –> 00:27:00.000
up, and you were gonna be good to
00:27:00.000 –> 00:27:01.000
go. And on the right side, you got
00:27:01.000 –> 00:27:02.000
pool holes at first. Yeah. You were gonna
00:27:02.000 –> 00:27:05.000
be good to go. Second basement was We
00:27:05.000 –> 00:27:07.000
it bounced around that year. Hey. I had,
00:27:07.000 –> 00:27:09.000
I think I had some, what, belly yard
00:27:09.000 –> 00:27:12.000
late no. The belly yard late no six.
00:27:12.000 –> 00:27:13.000
Gritzelonic
00:27:13.000 –> 00:27:15.000
was there in two thousand and five.
00:27:15.000 –> 00:27:17.000
So bouncing around a little bit on that
00:27:17.000 –> 00:27:18.000
side of the infield. What did what did
00:27:18.000 –> 00:27:20.000
it seem though? At Jim Edmonds in center
00:27:20.000 –> 00:27:22.000
field, like, just hit it. Go ahead and
00:27:22.000 –> 00:27:23.000
hit it. Try it. Just go over to
00:27:23.000 –> 00:27:26.000
anybody. Yeah. Don’t walk anybody. You’d be good.
00:27:26.000 –> 00:27:28.000
So how do you prepare for a game
00:27:28.000 –> 00:27:30.000
now? Like, what’s that like for you. Yeah.
00:27:30.000 –> 00:27:31.000
A lot of it is, like, we were
00:27:31.000 –> 00:27:34.000
talking about before is one of my first
00:27:34.000 –> 00:27:36.000
things that I do is I prepare, like,
00:27:36.000 –> 00:27:38.000
I was pitching against the opposing line. So
00:27:38.000 –> 00:27:40.000
I’ll dig in. I’ll I’ll look at the
00:27:40.000 –> 00:27:40.000
tendencies
00:27:41.000 –> 00:27:42.000
and all of that stuff. I’ll look at
00:27:42.000 –> 00:27:43.000
their last couple of weeks of what they’ve
00:27:43.000 –> 00:27:44.000
done and,
00:27:45.000 –> 00:27:47.000
all the heat zones all all that good
00:27:47.000 –> 00:27:49.000
stuff, then you’re obviously looking at your starters
00:27:49.000 –> 00:27:51.000
arsenal for the day.
00:27:51.000 –> 00:27:54.000
But, I’ll dig into Bullpens who’s been who’s
00:27:54.000 –> 00:27:56.000
throwing a lot late who’s likely gonna be
00:27:56.000 –> 00:27:59.000
down, try to manage my way through games
00:27:59.000 –> 00:28:01.000
like a manager would. Turns out I don’t
00:28:01.000 –> 00:28:03.000
make some of the same moves as other
00:28:03.000 –> 00:28:04.000
managers because I’m not I don’t think as
00:28:04.000 –> 00:28:06.000
fast. As some of these guys do.
00:28:07.000 –> 00:28:09.000
But that’s that’s part of the preparation. Just
00:28:09.000 –> 00:28:12.000
watching. And it’s it’s a lot easier
00:28:12.000 –> 00:28:14.000
doing the games the more you do. So
00:28:15.000 –> 00:28:16.000
the the reps that I got this past
00:28:16.000 –> 00:28:19.000
year, it was it was easier to do
00:28:19.000 –> 00:28:21.000
the job because you’re around these guys every
00:28:21.000 –> 00:28:23.000
day. You’re watching them every day. When you’re
00:28:23.000 –> 00:28:24.000
in and out, it makes it a little
00:28:24.000 –> 00:28:25.000
bit more difficult. You feel like not that
00:28:25.000 –> 00:28:27.000
you’re not watching at home, but it’s different.
00:28:27.000 –> 00:28:28.000
When you get your family running around, you’re
00:28:28.000 –> 00:28:31.000
cooking dinner, and like everybody watching games, you
00:28:31.000 –> 00:28:34.000
miss certain parts of it, but the repetition
00:28:34.000 –> 00:28:36.000
part of it just makes it big. And
00:28:36.000 –> 00:28:38.000
and that’s one of the other things. I’m
00:28:38.000 –> 00:28:40.000
around, I wanna be around the players. They’re
00:28:40.000 –> 00:28:42.000
the story. Like, what you’re it’s not about
00:28:42.000 –> 00:28:43.000
me. It’s not about what I did. It’s
00:28:43.000 –> 00:28:46.000
not about chipping eyes banter and forth, it’s
00:28:46.000 –> 00:28:47.000
about what are these guys doing? What are
00:28:47.000 –> 00:28:49.000
they going through? What are they working on?
00:28:49.000 –> 00:28:51.000
And that is a lot of the preparation
00:28:51.000 –> 00:28:53.000
is in being around these guys and getting
00:28:53.000 –> 00:28:55.000
that information. And I think too, that prep
00:28:55.000 –> 00:28:57.000
shows. And, obviously, you love what you do.
00:28:57.000 –> 00:28:59.000
And I think I know about you the
00:28:59.000 –> 00:29:00.000
same thing. You take lots of notes, you
00:29:00.000 –> 00:29:01.000
prepare.
00:29:01.000 –> 00:29:03.000
That’s important. And that comes across in the
00:29:03.000 –> 00:29:05.000
microphone. Too. Right? But I I talked to
00:29:05.000 –> 00:29:07.000
Chip Carey. He was on the podcast, not
00:29:07.000 –> 00:29:09.000
to keep name dropping podcast guest, but, he
00:29:09.000 –> 00:29:10.000
said you were one of the biggest
00:29:11.000 –> 00:29:13.000
helper. Like, biggest helps for him to embrace
00:29:13.000 –> 00:29:15.000
being in the Saint Louis cardinals. Right? You
00:29:15.000 –> 00:29:16.000
got a new guy. You’re replacing a guy
00:29:16.000 –> 00:29:18.000
that’s twenty four years everybody loved.
00:29:19.000 –> 00:29:20.000
That was tough, but he said that about
00:29:20.000 –> 00:29:22.000
you. So what was that relationship like for
00:29:22.000 –> 00:29:24.000
you and Chip? And then I came into
00:29:24.000 –> 00:29:25.000
the booth with you, at spring training this
00:29:27.000 –> 00:29:28.000
year. It would have been nice to know
00:29:28.000 –> 00:29:30.000
that he’s, like, six six. Oh, he’s enormous.
00:29:30.000 –> 00:29:32.000
I had no idea. He stood up. I’m,
00:29:32.000 –> 00:29:33.000
like, oh, I feel like I’m hanging out
00:29:33.000 –> 00:29:35.000
with Fredberg. Yes, dude. Yeah. Except her. Chip
00:29:35.000 –> 00:29:36.000
talks a lot more. Exactly.
00:29:37.000 –> 00:29:39.000
So what’s that like for you, you guys’
00:29:39.000 –> 00:29:40.000
relationship? Yeah.
00:29:40.000 –> 00:29:43.000
It it was really amazing how quickly
00:29:44.000 –> 00:29:46.000
things click. Like, between him and I, and
00:29:46.000 –> 00:29:48.000
I, hopefully, that’s something that really comes out
00:29:48.000 –> 00:29:49.000
on air,
00:29:50.000 –> 00:29:52.000
really close, really fast. Now had the good
00:29:52.000 –> 00:29:52.000
opportunity
00:29:53.000 –> 00:29:55.000
to meet Chip over the years last couple
00:29:55.000 –> 00:29:56.000
of times. Okay.
00:29:56.000 –> 00:29:58.000
And you know how close I am with
00:29:58.000 –> 00:30:00.000
with Danny Mack, love him to death. And
00:30:00.000 –> 00:30:02.000
Dan was one of my biggest advocates
00:30:02.000 –> 00:30:05.000
of doing more games and helping me and
00:30:05.000 –> 00:30:05.000
really
00:30:06.000 –> 00:30:08.000
really mentored me through through a lot of
00:30:08.000 –> 00:30:09.000
things. And I know that there are gonna
00:30:09.000 –> 00:30:10.000
be a lot of big things come for
00:30:10.000 –> 00:30:12.000
Danny Mac as well, but they made the
00:30:12.000 –> 00:30:14.000
change, and I don’t think that you could
00:30:14.000 –> 00:30:16.000
have picked anybody better than than Chip Carey.
00:30:16.000 –> 00:30:17.000
If you were gonna make that change,
00:30:18.000 –> 00:30:18.000
the personality
00:30:19.000 –> 00:30:22.000
is fantastic, his energy, his love of life.
00:30:22.000 –> 00:30:24.000
And, like, that’s easy to feed off of.
00:30:24.000 –> 00:30:25.000
Right. So when you have,
00:30:25.000 –> 00:30:27.000
couple of guys that have that sort of
00:30:27.000 –> 00:30:30.000
energy. I don’t care if you’re down ten,
00:30:30.000 –> 00:30:31.000
nothing in the first inning.
00:30:32.000 –> 00:30:34.000
You’re a fan. Do you wanna listen to
00:30:34.000 –> 00:30:36.000
a couple of guys just beating a dead
00:30:36.000 –> 00:30:38.000
horse early on and negative and down in
00:30:38.000 –> 00:30:40.000
the dumps? No. Like, at least I don’t.
00:30:40.000 –> 00:30:42.000
I and maybe some some fans do. And
00:30:42.000 –> 00:30:44.000
I do get that I get the pushback
00:30:44.000 –> 00:30:46.000
of you’re too positive. You don’t say anything
00:30:46.000 –> 00:30:49.000
Brad, like, maybe maybe to a certain extent.
00:30:51.000 –> 00:30:53.000
But I’d rather just be happy too instead
00:30:53.000 –> 00:30:55.000
of and again, I’ll talk about the bad
00:30:55.000 –> 00:30:58.000
things that are there. I’ll spin them positive
00:30:58.000 –> 00:31:00.000
somehow or another because I want this to
00:31:00.000 –> 00:31:02.000
be entertaining. I don’t want you to tune
00:31:02.000 –> 00:31:04.000
into a ball game. It’s down. You’re down
00:31:04.000 –> 00:31:06.000
five runs and you just go wanna watch
00:31:06.000 –> 00:31:08.000
jeopardy. Don’t forget that. Yeah. Stay here. Yeah.
00:31:08.000 –> 00:31:10.000
We’ll have some fun. These guys are gonna
00:31:10.000 –> 00:31:12.000
put on a show for you and let’s
00:31:12.000 –> 00:31:14.000
entertain like at the end of the day,
00:31:14.000 –> 00:31:17.000
it’s still an entertainment business. Like I mentioned,
00:31:17.000 –> 00:31:20.000
the players, the coach, that’s your product. That’s
00:31:20.000 –> 00:31:22.000
what we’re watching and that’s what we’re propping
00:31:22.000 –> 00:31:23.000
up. But our job in between all of
00:31:23.000 –> 00:31:26.000
that is keep you engaged. Keep you loving
00:31:26.000 –> 00:31:29.000
the game. Keep you love the cardinals wanting
00:31:29.000 –> 00:31:31.000
to come back, and I wanna build that
00:31:31.000 –> 00:31:34.000
relationship. One of the biggest, like, compliments that
00:31:34.000 –> 00:31:36.000
I can get is when I meet people,
00:31:36.000 –> 00:31:39.000
said, man, I I love listening to you
00:31:39.000 –> 00:31:40.000
guys. I would just love to have a
00:31:40.000 –> 00:31:42.000
beer with you. Like, I wanna build that
00:31:42.000 –> 00:31:44.000
relationship where I’m, like, part of your
00:31:44.000 –> 00:31:46.000
your evening. Well, you’re in everybody’s house. Every
00:31:46.000 –> 00:31:48.000
night is creepy. You hit really creepy. When
00:31:48.000 –> 00:31:50.000
I when I talk to kids, I say,
00:31:50.000 –> 00:31:51.000
Hey, I’m the voice that puts you to
00:31:51.000 –> 00:31:53.000
bed Yeah. Like That’s not real. I mean,
00:31:53.000 –> 00:31:55.000
that’s what Mike Shannon was. Right? It’s it’s
00:31:58.000 –> 00:31:59.000
it’s fun to be part of such a
00:31:59.000 –> 00:32:01.000
a legacy line that. And so that we
00:32:01.000 –> 00:32:03.000
have so many great people that work around
00:32:03.000 –> 00:32:05.000
it. You look at the the radio side
00:32:05.000 –> 00:32:08.000
of of things with John rooney and Ricky
00:32:08.000 –> 00:32:10.000
Horton and Mike Clay warrant. They do such
00:32:10.000 –> 00:32:12.000
a fantastic job.
00:32:12.000 –> 00:32:14.000
Ship is great to work with. Jim Edmonds
00:32:15.000 –> 00:32:16.000
is every time I listen to Jim, I
00:32:16.000 –> 00:32:18.000
learn something about baseball. He’s just got an
00:32:18.000 –> 00:32:19.000
incredible
00:32:19.000 –> 00:32:22.000
baseball mind. The entire crew that works over
00:32:22.000 –> 00:32:25.000
there is is is great. Alraboski has helped
00:32:25.000 –> 00:32:26.000
me out a ton. I’ve got that’s one
00:32:26.000 –> 00:32:29.000
of the biggest things that I’ve been so
00:32:29.000 –> 00:32:32.000
pleased with and just honestly really impressed by
00:32:32.000 –> 00:32:34.000
is how that whole group is in erased
00:32:34.000 –> 00:32:37.000
me. New guy coming in.
00:32:37.000 –> 00:32:39.000
It’s a competitive industry. There’s only so many
00:32:39.000 –> 00:32:41.000
of these jobs. Right? There’s only so many
00:32:41.000 –> 00:32:43.000
reps that are out there. And
00:32:43.000 –> 00:32:45.000
you know, specifically talk about analyst
00:32:45.000 –> 00:32:48.000
guys, Rick Horton and Alraboski have, like, been
00:32:48.000 –> 00:32:51.000
my biggest helpers ever. Yeah. Like, I have
00:32:51.000 –> 00:32:53.000
a question about something, I can call them
00:32:53.000 –> 00:32:55.000
up. They they help me out. Give me
00:32:55.000 –> 00:32:57.000
advice. It’s been Which, how cool is that
00:32:57.000 –> 00:33:00.000
to think about their character I mean, that
00:33:00.000 –> 00:33:02.000
you’re taking games or reps as you say
00:33:02.000 –> 00:33:04.000
away from them. Right? And it’s like, here
00:33:04.000 –> 00:33:05.000
they are still helping you. Do you think
00:33:05.000 –> 00:33:07.000
that’s go ahead. No. I was gonna say,
00:33:07.000 –> 00:33:10.000
I that’s but that’s baseball. Yeah. Like, that
00:33:10.000 –> 00:33:12.000
is that is the mindset or at least
00:33:12.000 –> 00:33:14.000
the mindset of the great ones is
00:33:15.000 –> 00:33:17.000
I am gonna I’m trying to pass this
00:33:17.000 –> 00:33:19.000
along. Trying to pass this along. Yes. I
00:33:19.000 –> 00:33:20.000
wanna do this as long as I can.
00:33:20.000 –> 00:33:22.000
Talking about Friday baseball level. I wanna do
00:33:22.000 –> 00:33:24.000
it at the highest level, and I’m trying
00:33:24.000 –> 00:33:25.000
to to keep my ab ads, keep my
00:33:25.000 –> 00:33:28.000
innings, but I also know that someone helped
00:33:28.000 –> 00:33:30.000
me get here. Yeah. And I wanna help
00:33:30.000 –> 00:33:32.000
this guy get to that spot. And that
00:33:32.000 –> 00:33:33.000
guy is gonna help the next guy. And
00:33:33.000 –> 00:33:35.000
that’s something we’ve been so blessed with in
00:33:35.000 –> 00:33:36.000
the cardinal organization
00:33:37.000 –> 00:33:39.000
is they’ve passed these things down, and you’ve
00:33:39.000 –> 00:33:41.000
passed down what it means to be a
00:33:41.000 –> 00:33:43.000
cardinal, and and what it means to put
00:33:43.000 –> 00:33:45.000
on that jersey, Those things don’t happen if
00:33:45.000 –> 00:33:47.000
you don’t have players helping each other. And
00:33:47.000 –> 00:33:49.000
that’s actually what I was gonna go with.
00:33:49.000 –> 00:33:50.000
Wearing the birds in the bat as a
00:33:50.000 –> 00:33:53.000
player. Now wearing, quote unquote, wearing the birds
00:33:53.000 –> 00:33:54.000
in the bat as an announcer. You can
00:33:54.000 –> 00:33:55.000
work for You can work for a suit.
00:33:55.000 –> 00:33:57.000
That’d be a nice suit. Nice shirt. Yeah.
00:33:57.000 –> 00:33:59.000
We’ll see if there’s dust that made. Somebody
00:33:59.000 –> 00:34:00.000
will be less a custom suit guy. Get
00:34:00.000 –> 00:34:03.000
Brad a suit with custom bats on it.
00:34:04.000 –> 00:34:05.000
What was I saying? The card organization. So,
00:34:05.000 –> 00:34:07.000
obviously, you you don’t know they work for
00:34:07.000 –> 00:34:09.000
the cardinals. I think that’s okay to say
00:34:09.000 –> 00:34:10.000
that. Right? Yeah. You work for the ballies.
00:34:10.000 –> 00:34:12.000
Yeah. You’re employee of ballies. Yeah. But, yeah,
00:34:12.000 –> 00:34:14.000
how much does the cardinal organization
00:34:14.000 –> 00:34:15.000
run
00:34:15.000 –> 00:34:16.000
through
00:34:16.000 –> 00:34:16.000
valleys
00:34:17.000 –> 00:34:18.000
deep into you guys and all that stuff.
00:34:18.000 –> 00:34:19.000
Yeah. I think it’s a partnership.
00:34:20.000 –> 00:34:20.000
Obviously,
00:34:21.000 –> 00:34:22.000
and I I don’t even know what the
00:34:22.000 –> 00:34:24.000
logistics of are, but I believe that the,
00:34:24.000 –> 00:34:26.000
you know, Carlos are are in on ownership
00:34:26.000 –> 00:34:29.000
of that too. Like, they they bought into
00:34:29.000 –> 00:34:29.000
that.
00:34:30.000 –> 00:34:32.000
But I I feel like they’re they work
00:34:32.000 –> 00:34:34.000
together. Like, that’s kinda how the crew is.
00:34:34.000 –> 00:34:36.000
I know that the cardinals have a say
00:34:36.000 –> 00:34:38.000
of who is on their airwaves and who’s
00:34:38.000 –> 00:34:39.000
talking about their game
00:34:40.000 –> 00:34:40.000
and,
00:34:41.000 –> 00:34:43.000
I’m I’m so happy that I’ve been able
00:34:43.000 –> 00:34:45.000
to carve out a niche and and have
00:34:45.000 –> 00:34:47.000
the relationships that I have
00:34:47.000 –> 00:34:49.000
with, you know, with people within the organization
00:34:49.000 –> 00:34:51.000
not, like, just like I did as a
00:34:51.000 –> 00:34:53.000
player. Every time that I’m doing a game
00:34:53.000 –> 00:34:54.000
now as a broadcaster,
00:34:54.000 –> 00:34:56.000
I’m trying to keep my job. Like, I’m
00:34:56.000 –> 00:34:58.000
trying I’m trying to get Like, I wanna
00:34:58.000 –> 00:35:00.000
get better every day, and I I want
00:35:00.000 –> 00:35:03.000
to learn more and more. And I also
00:35:03.000 –> 00:35:05.000
realize something’s always coming for this job. Right?
00:35:05.000 –> 00:35:07.000
So I wanna put my best foot forward
00:35:07.000 –> 00:35:10.000
every single day and just continue to try
00:35:10.000 –> 00:35:12.000
to stay in everybody’s good graces and
00:35:12.000 –> 00:35:14.000
and do his of a job as I
00:35:14.000 –> 00:35:16.000
can. What’s been the most memorable,
00:35:17.000 –> 00:35:19.000
baseball moment for you as an announcer?
00:35:19.000 –> 00:35:21.000
Man, that’s hard. There there have been so
00:35:21.000 –> 00:35:23.000
many good ones, especially in the last couple
00:35:23.000 –> 00:35:24.000
years. I mean, you you had
00:35:25.000 –> 00:35:26.000
being able to be on the call two
00:35:26.000 –> 00:35:27.000
years ago
00:35:28.000 –> 00:35:30.000
as we knew the future
00:35:30.000 –> 00:35:31.000
of Yadi
00:35:32.000 –> 00:35:34.000
and Albert, you knew that they were gonna
00:35:34.000 –> 00:35:36.000
retire. Didn’t know at the time, the future
00:35:36.000 –> 00:35:38.000
of Adam Wayne. Right? But those three walking
00:35:38.000 –> 00:35:39.000
off the mound together.
00:35:40.000 –> 00:35:43.000
I mean, it’s just an unreal site, a
00:35:43.000 –> 00:35:46.000
picture that you’ll see forever in cardinal history.
00:35:46.000 –> 00:35:48.000
That is a a big one.
00:35:48.000 –> 00:35:50.000
Albert Puhl’s hitting number
00:35:51.000 –> 00:35:51.000
07:03,
00:35:51.000 –> 00:35:54.000
like the final one Yeah. Was a big
00:35:54.000 –> 00:35:56.000
one too in Pittsburgh. Now I would say
00:35:56.000 –> 00:35:58.000
six ninety nine and seven hundred. Mhmm. But,
00:35:58.000 –> 00:36:00.000
you know, I literally thought about you that
00:36:00.000 –> 00:36:01.000
night. We were in my basement. We had
00:36:01.000 –> 00:36:04.000
people over on Apple TV and my god
00:36:04.000 –> 00:36:06.000
sucks. Really Albert, both of them. Couldn’t take
00:36:06.000 –> 00:36:07.000
the side off.
00:36:08.000 –> 00:36:10.000
That hurt. So that’s that’s one. And maybe
00:36:10.000 –> 00:36:12.000
I’ll change this story. It’s like one of
00:36:12.000 –> 00:36:14.000
those fishing stories, you know. Like, I was
00:36:14.000 –> 00:36:16.000
there. Yes. Because I was in LA. We
00:36:16.000 –> 00:36:18.000
were just saying because you did it the
00:36:18.000 –> 00:36:19.000
night before. The night before, did it the
00:36:19.000 –> 00:36:22.000
night after, Brett. But, yeah, I was watching
00:36:22.000 –> 00:36:25.000
that one on my iPad in my hotel
00:36:25.000 –> 00:36:26.000
room. And they asked me to say, hey,
00:36:26.000 –> 00:36:28.000
you do you wanna take it for the
00:36:28.000 –> 00:36:29.000
game? I said, no. I’m I’m going to
00:36:29.000 –> 00:36:30.000
games every day. I don’t need to take
00:36:30.000 –> 00:36:32.000
it for game? What’s he gonna end it?
00:36:32.000 –> 00:36:34.000
It possibly happened tonight. In a couple years
00:36:34.000 –> 00:36:35.000
though, that story will be like, yeah, and
00:36:35.000 –> 00:36:37.000
he hit the home run. And then do
00:36:37.000 –> 00:36:38.000
you remember him going back and giving the
00:36:38.000 –> 00:36:40.000
high five that was me? I was there.
00:36:40.000 –> 00:36:42.000
It wasn’t Beltrey. It was right. Right.
00:36:42.000 –> 00:36:45.000
That was funny. Speaking to Beltran, you said
00:36:45.000 –> 00:36:46.000
Beltrey, I think you said. Yeah. I think
00:36:46.000 –> 00:36:49.000
you said. Beltran. Yeah. Beltran. What was that?
00:36:49.000 –> 00:36:51.000
Moment like I mean, he was a cardinal
00:36:51.000 –> 00:36:54.000
killer. Right. Oh, yeah. And two thousand six,
00:36:54.000 –> 00:36:55.000
NLCS,
00:36:55.000 –> 00:36:57.000
two men on. I think cardinals rep, what,
00:36:57.000 –> 00:36:58.000
three to one
00:36:58.000 –> 00:37:00.000
bottom of the ninth, tight.
00:37:00.000 –> 00:37:02.000
I mean, I remember, like, his yesterday watching
00:37:02.000 –> 00:37:04.000
that game. What was that like, obviously, being
00:37:04.000 –> 00:37:06.000
there and having a uniform on? The,
00:37:06.000 –> 00:37:10.000
the NLCS and specifically that game seven is
00:37:10.000 –> 00:37:11.000
far more memorable
00:37:12.000 –> 00:37:13.000
than the world series to me. And I
00:37:13.000 –> 00:37:15.000
think that for anybody that was in it,
00:37:16.000 –> 00:37:18.000
and doing it. Like, that was you go
00:37:18.000 –> 00:37:20.000
to a game seven. You have so many
00:37:20.000 –> 00:37:22.000
ups and downs throughout it. You still remember
00:37:22.000 –> 00:37:25.000
the Andy Chavez robbed home run of Scott
00:37:25.000 –> 00:37:28.000
Gilliland we’re, like, where did that come from?
00:37:28.000 –> 00:37:30.000
Like, Tyler Johnson left handed reliever and myself
00:37:30.000 –> 00:37:32.000
were right behind Like, you see you see
00:37:32.000 –> 00:37:34.000
Shaba’s arm? We’re right behind that wall on
00:37:34.000 –> 00:37:36.000
the bowl family. No. No. I was gonna
00:37:36.000 –> 00:37:38.000
catch that. Yes. Yes.
00:37:39.000 –> 00:37:42.000
But that, that place was so loud. Shea
00:37:42.000 –> 00:37:43.000
was loud. Have have you ever been to
00:37:43.000 –> 00:37:45.000
Shea State, anyway? Had you been there? No.
00:37:45.000 –> 00:37:48.000
So it was crazy loud. Old school speakers
00:37:48.000 –> 00:37:50.000
in center field, Apple would pop up. I’m
00:37:50.000 –> 00:37:52.000
telling you the place would sway. Like, you
00:37:52.000 –> 00:37:54.000
could see it sway. It was just an
00:37:54.000 –> 00:37:55.000
energy there was New York. Like, it was
00:37:55.000 –> 00:37:56.000
New York, passionate.
00:37:57.000 –> 00:37:59.000
Sports fans in the biggest Thompson.
00:38:00.000 –> 00:38:02.000
And then Adam Wayne Wright, the rookie
00:38:02.000 –> 00:38:04.000
comes in and does that. And I know
00:38:04.000 –> 00:38:06.000
you’ve heard Adam talk about him and yachty
00:38:06.000 –> 00:38:08.000
going through that. He starts him out with
00:38:08.000 –> 00:38:09.000
a change up, which is a pitch that
00:38:09.000 –> 00:38:12.000
he never throws. Like, it just it just
00:38:12.000 –> 00:38:14.000
had the body’s like, hey, this is the
00:38:14.000 –> 00:38:17.000
is the pitch. Do it. And then set
00:38:17.000 –> 00:38:19.000
everything else up. Let’s change this whole career
00:38:19.000 –> 00:38:20.000
probably. Right? I mean, you think one, the
00:38:20.000 –> 00:38:23.000
confidence, but number two, the the confidence to
00:38:23.000 –> 00:38:24.000
listen to a guy
00:38:24.000 –> 00:38:26.000
tells me in this moment to throw a
00:38:26.000 –> 00:38:28.000
pitch. It’s not my best pitch that I’m
00:38:28.000 –> 00:38:30.000
not the best at. Right? Yeah. Throw it.
00:38:30.000 –> 00:38:32.000
Trust it. He did it in then, holy
00:38:32.000 –> 00:38:35.000
crap. Yeah. Well, that’s and and remember too,
00:38:35.000 –> 00:38:37.000
that was, I mean, what, two years into
00:38:37.000 –> 00:38:40.000
Yati’s career. Wasn’t like he was six. He
00:38:40.000 –> 00:38:41.000
came up in o he wasn’t the cagey
00:38:41.000 –> 00:38:43.000
vet. Yeah. O four. O fours is for
00:38:43.000 –> 00:38:45.000
sure. Yeah. Well, he wasn’t like the cagey
00:38:45.000 –> 00:38:48.000
veteran at the time. But you already knew
00:38:48.000 –> 00:38:50.000
you knew what he was and you knew
00:38:50.000 –> 00:38:53.000
the preparation that was there. And Adam had
00:38:53.000 –> 00:38:54.000
that trust in him and also had the
00:38:54.000 –> 00:38:57.000
trust in his ability. If that’s what you
00:38:57.000 –> 00:38:59.000
believe is gonna be right, let’s do it.
00:38:59.000 –> 00:39:00.000
And I’m sure that if he felt it
00:39:00.000 –> 00:39:02.000
in his hand and he was like, this
00:39:02.000 –> 00:39:03.000
isn’t it, he wouldn’t Yeah. You know, but
00:39:03.000 –> 00:39:05.000
he he trusted in in yachty. He made
00:39:05.000 –> 00:39:07.000
the pitch, then obviously made the pitch with
00:39:07.000 –> 00:39:10.000
the biggest breaking ball of his career. Michael
00:39:10.000 –> 00:39:12.000
Charlie was probably sure was. But I I
00:39:12.000 –> 00:39:14.000
think you bring up a great point. Like,
00:39:14.000 –> 00:39:15.000
what if what if that went a different
00:39:15.000 –> 00:39:17.000
direction? Right? What what if it
00:39:17.000 –> 00:39:19.000
Beltran hit it out of the ballpark? Now
00:39:19.000 –> 00:39:22.000
I still believe that Adam Wayne, right, a
00:39:22.000 –> 00:39:24.000
man of conviction, a man of the he
00:39:24.000 –> 00:39:26.000
he’s not gonna he’s been knocked down plenty
00:39:26.000 –> 00:39:27.000
in his career. I still believe that he
00:39:27.000 –> 00:39:30.000
would have carved himself out quite a career.
00:39:30.000 –> 00:39:32.000
But what a way to start it? Or
00:39:32.000 –> 00:39:35.000
you you do that, and then you transition
00:39:35.000 –> 00:39:37.000
into starting cardinal hall You’ll transit one. You
00:39:37.000 –> 00:39:39.000
weren’t even to close busy was to close.
00:39:39.000 –> 00:39:40.000
Yes. Right. Well, he was, and then is
00:39:40.000 –> 00:39:41.000
he got hurt and then he had to
00:39:41.000 –> 00:39:43.000
say over. Yeah. So he had to learn
00:39:43.000 –> 00:39:44.000
that on the fly. And again, you wanna
00:39:44.000 –> 00:39:46.000
talk about mentorship You wanna talk about a
00:39:46.000 –> 00:39:48.000
guy that was going through probably one of
00:39:48.000 –> 00:39:50.000
the lower times, injured,
00:39:51.000 –> 00:39:53.000
hip, everything was was banged up for for
00:39:53.000 –> 00:39:55.000
Jason Iseringhousen who is, he, one of my
00:39:55.000 –> 00:39:56.000
biggest mentors
00:39:57.000 –> 00:39:58.000
as a player and one of the best
00:39:58.000 –> 00:40:02.000
people I’ve been around, but he he helps
00:40:02.000 –> 00:40:04.000
mentor Adam Wayne, right, through that? What it’s
00:40:04.000 –> 00:40:06.000
like at the back end of games? What
00:40:06.000 –> 00:40:08.000
to expect? The highs, the lows? Like, all
00:40:08.000 –> 00:40:11.000
of that. That’s a hard thing to learn.
00:40:11.000 –> 00:40:14.000
When you are you’re like a middle relief
00:40:14.000 –> 00:40:16.000
guy, you have a safety net. Your team
00:40:16.000 –> 00:40:18.000
could come back and, you know, you gave
00:40:18.000 –> 00:40:19.000
up three, but who cares? You guys are
00:40:19.000 –> 00:40:21.000
like, well, we won. Like, do that as
00:40:21.000 –> 00:40:22.000
a closer,
00:40:22.000 –> 00:40:25.000
you lose. Yeah. And then you’re you’re the
00:40:25.000 –> 00:40:27.000
goat and not the good one. Yeah. And
00:40:27.000 –> 00:40:28.000
then you gotta come back the next day
00:40:28.000 –> 00:40:30.000
and you have to have the right mindset.
00:40:30.000 –> 00:40:31.000
I think that was a learned mindset. It’s
00:40:31.000 –> 00:40:34.000
all So Adam Wainwright just has that something
00:40:34.000 –> 00:40:36.000
special. He’s just just get the x built
00:40:36.000 –> 00:40:37.000
that way. Of course.
00:40:37.000 –> 00:40:40.000
But having that mentor early, I think helped
00:40:40.000 –> 00:40:42.000
him as well. Yeah. So talk about the
00:40:42.000 –> 00:40:43.000
adrenaline of that. You know, I’m one of
00:40:43.000 –> 00:40:45.000
these guys that I watch sports, and man,
00:40:45.000 –> 00:40:47.000
I feel the moment. Like, you know, I
00:40:47.000 –> 00:40:50.000
just would dream about walking into that stadium
00:40:50.000 –> 00:40:52.000
or walking out of that cord or making
00:40:52.000 –> 00:40:53.000
that putt. Whatever it is,
00:40:53.000 –> 00:40:56.000
I feel the adrenaline at a much different
00:40:56.000 –> 00:40:58.000
level, obviously. But you can feel it. So
00:40:58.000 –> 00:41:00.000
for you, having the adrenaline, man, you know,
00:41:01.000 –> 00:41:02.000
phone rings, they call it up. Brad, you’re
00:41:02.000 –> 00:41:04.000
coming in. Game’s online. Right? You’re coming in.
00:41:04.000 –> 00:41:06.000
You’re walking out of that fence. You gotta
00:41:06.000 –> 00:41:08.000
run to the bull or run to the
00:41:08.000 –> 00:41:11.000
pitcher’s mound. Like, that adrenaline explained that adrenaline
00:41:11.000 –> 00:41:13.000
Gilliland how hard was that to know that
00:41:13.000 –> 00:41:15.000
you I mean, you’ll probably never feel that
00:41:15.000 –> 00:41:19.000
adrenaline again. Yeah. Look, aside from the camaraderie.
00:41:19.000 –> 00:41:21.000
And thankfully, in the job that I have,
00:41:21.000 –> 00:41:24.000
I get that. I still get that around
00:41:24.000 –> 00:41:26.000
the ballpark, hanging out with the guys, like,
00:41:26.000 –> 00:41:29.000
are the broadcast crews, our own team. We
00:41:29.000 –> 00:41:31.000
all hang out, everybody on the road, go
00:41:31.000 –> 00:41:32.000
out. And so it’s so I get the
00:41:32.000 –> 00:41:34.000
camaraderie part of it still.
00:41:34.000 –> 00:41:36.000
The adrenaline aspect,
00:41:36.000 –> 00:41:38.000
I have not been able to find that
00:41:38.000 –> 00:41:39.000
in life. Like, I don’t know what that
00:41:39.000 –> 00:41:42.000
is. And I you brought up the perfect
00:41:42.000 –> 00:41:43.000
example of the phone ring.
00:41:44.000 –> 00:41:47.000
Like, pavlov’s dog. It’s like, is it me?
00:41:47.000 –> 00:41:48.000
Is it me? Is it me? And then
00:41:48.000 –> 00:41:51.000
it’s you. It’s like, boom, get up, start
00:41:51.000 –> 00:41:54.000
throwing. It’s such a it’s such an amazing
00:41:54.000 –> 00:41:57.000
feeling. It’s such an exciting feeling, and everything
00:41:57.000 –> 00:41:59.000
just starts beating a little faster. Right? But
00:41:59.000 –> 00:42:02.000
it’s it’s still controlled. Yep. But it is
00:42:02.000 –> 00:42:04.000
energetic. It’s exciting.
00:42:04.000 –> 00:42:06.000
And I like there are things in my
00:42:06.000 –> 00:42:08.000
life that excited about. There are plenty of
00:42:08.000 –> 00:42:10.000
things in my life that I’m passionate about.
00:42:10.000 –> 00:42:11.000
There are not too many things that I
00:42:11.000 –> 00:42:13.000
have found. And maybe that’s your next big
00:42:13.000 –> 00:42:15.000
idea, Brett. You find that find that adrenaline
00:42:15.000 –> 00:42:15.000
factor.
00:42:16.000 –> 00:42:18.000
Get that going, but I do miss that.
00:42:18.000 –> 00:42:21.000
I I miss that that energy of going
00:42:21.000 –> 00:42:24.000
in. And then that feeling, and and honestly
00:42:24.000 –> 00:42:27.000
even even the bad day, Right? It’s it’s
00:42:27.000 –> 00:42:28.000
a different feeling. Like, you went out there
00:42:28.000 –> 00:42:31.000
and you gave everything that you had in
00:42:31.000 –> 00:42:32.000
what we all know is a game. Right?
00:42:32.000 –> 00:42:34.000
There are bigger things that are going on
00:42:34.000 –> 00:42:36.000
in the world. But in your world right
00:42:36.000 –> 00:42:38.000
there, just like anybody that is going to
00:42:38.000 –> 00:42:39.000
their job, that’s your world. That’s a big
00:42:39.000 –> 00:42:41.000
deal. Others might not look at it as
00:42:41.000 –> 00:42:42.000
a big deal, but to you is and
00:42:42.000 –> 00:42:45.000
it should be when you put everything out
00:42:45.000 –> 00:42:46.000
there on the line and you just let
00:42:46.000 –> 00:42:48.000
the chips fall where they make, like, that’s
00:42:48.000 –> 00:42:50.000
a freeing feeling Yeah. When you have that.
00:42:50.000 –> 00:42:51.000
That’s it’s it’s incredible.
00:42:53.000 –> 00:42:54.000
Let’s see what I’m trying to think the
00:42:54.000 –> 00:42:56.000
next question I wanted to ask here. So
00:42:56.000 –> 00:42:57.000
so how did you,
00:42:58.000 –> 00:42:59.000
when you talked about the camaraderie,
00:43:00.000 –> 00:43:01.000
how do you how do you stay a
00:43:01.000 –> 00:43:03.000
student in the game with what you’re doing
00:43:03.000 –> 00:43:04.000
now? And you’ve kinda touched on that, I
00:43:04.000 –> 00:43:06.000
guess. Yeah. Yes. Continue watching stuff. Yeah. You
00:43:06.000 –> 00:43:08.000
have to you have to keep watching, and
00:43:08.000 –> 00:43:11.000
you to be willing to change too. Yeah.
00:43:11.000 –> 00:43:12.000
You know, I mentioned earlier some of the
00:43:12.000 –> 00:43:15.000
the data and the analytics, and I’m sure
00:43:15.000 –> 00:43:17.000
that a lot of baseball fans, and especially
00:43:17.000 –> 00:43:19.000
in St. Louis, you you’ve got an old
00:43:19.000 –> 00:43:21.000
school baseball fan. Right. You have got, you
00:43:21.000 –> 00:43:22.000
know, Bob Gibson,
00:43:22.000 –> 00:43:26.000
Lou Brock, Ozzie, Smith. Like, yes, legends. And,
00:43:26.000 –> 00:43:28.000
like, that’s the style of baseball that you
00:43:28.000 –> 00:43:31.000
like is throwback in old school. Things have
00:43:31.000 –> 00:43:34.000
changed. Okay? It’s It’s three true outcomes. It’s
00:43:34.000 –> 00:43:37.000
home run, strikeouts, and walks. It’s missing bats
00:43:37.000 –> 00:43:39.000
as a pitcher. It is velocity.
00:43:39.000 –> 00:43:42.000
It’s spin rates. It’s exit velocity. City. It’s
00:43:42.000 –> 00:43:45.000
all of these different things. And I can’t
00:43:45.000 –> 00:43:48.000
be again, talk about a job is to
00:43:48.000 –> 00:43:50.000
grow the game. Mhmm. I can’t sit there
00:43:50.000 –> 00:43:52.000
and be like, that doesn’t anything. That doesn’t
00:43:52.000 –> 00:43:53.000
matter. It does matter. Like, and it does
00:43:53.000 –> 00:43:56.000
mean something. These evaluators are evaluating off of
00:43:56.000 –> 00:43:59.000
some of these things. Scouts are scouting off
00:43:59.000 –> 00:44:01.000
of some of these things. Guys are getting
00:44:01.000 –> 00:44:03.000
paid off of a lot of these different
00:44:03.000 –> 00:44:04.000
power numbers that are out there. It means
00:44:04.000 –> 00:44:07.000
something to a lot of these different So
00:44:07.000 –> 00:44:08.000
one of my biggest things that I try
00:44:08.000 –> 00:44:09.000
to do is,
00:44:10.000 –> 00:44:11.000
even if it’s something I’ll read on the
00:44:11.000 –> 00:44:13.000
surface first or or see a new stat
00:44:13.000 –> 00:44:16.000
come out, like, that seems stupid. Let me
00:44:16.000 –> 00:44:18.000
dig into it at least. Like, let me
00:44:18.000 –> 00:44:20.000
let me open my exactly. Let me continue
00:44:20.000 –> 00:44:22.000
to learn about this. Or let me figure
00:44:22.000 –> 00:44:25.000
out a way where I can feed it
00:44:25.000 –> 00:44:27.000
to a viewer or somebody just passing by
00:44:27.000 –> 00:44:28.000
and say, hey, you know, what does this
00:44:28.000 –> 00:44:31.000
mean? Say, let me make it make sense
00:44:31.000 –> 00:44:32.000
to them and make it matter to them.
00:44:32.000 –> 00:44:35.000
Yeah. Where it matters to people in, like,
00:44:35.000 –> 00:44:36.000
the analytics community. But,
00:44:37.000 –> 00:44:38.000
I try to keep up as much as
00:44:38.000 –> 00:44:40.000
I can with all of the other teams
00:44:40.000 –> 00:44:42.000
in baseball. I get home. I’m watching MLB
00:44:42.000 –> 00:44:44.000
network, like every other baseball fan, because a
00:44:44.000 –> 00:44:47.000
lot like playing. And he’s, like, turn that
00:44:47.000 –> 00:44:48.000
crap off. Oh, yeah. For sure. I’m I
00:44:48.000 –> 00:44:49.000
have to go in the basement. I go
00:44:49.000 –> 00:44:50.000
home. I go the basement.
00:44:51.000 –> 00:44:53.000
But a lot like playing, I can’t just
00:44:53.000 –> 00:44:54.000
go home after a game. I don’t care
00:44:54.000 –> 00:44:56.000
how long the game was. I can’t just
00:44:56.000 –> 00:44:58.000
go to sleep. There has to be that
00:44:58.000 –> 00:44:58.000
unwinding
00:44:58.000 –> 00:45:01.000
period because that’s as close as I get
00:45:01.000 –> 00:45:02.000
to the adrenaline now that we were just
00:45:02.000 –> 00:45:05.000
talking about that in my ear, right, in
00:45:05.000 –> 00:45:07.000
the headset, three, two, one,
00:45:08.000 –> 00:45:10.000
live. And, like, boom. Okay. Here we go.
00:45:10.000 –> 00:45:12.000
Like, this is real. Brad don’t say any
00:45:12.000 –> 00:45:12.000
bad words.
00:45:14.000 –> 00:45:15.000
This is the same about a bad tension.
00:45:15.000 –> 00:45:17.000
Yes. That’s I don’t wanna get used to
00:45:17.000 –> 00:45:19.000
it here though. Right. Exactly. And then and
00:45:19.000 –> 00:45:21.000
then do it, do it a little bit.
00:45:21.000 –> 00:45:23.000
Well, Brett said. Yeah.
00:45:25.000 –> 00:45:26.000
Talk about the pitch clock. Did that change
00:45:26.000 –> 00:45:28.000
the game this year? It did. It it
00:45:28.000 –> 00:45:30.000
it did and
00:45:30.000 –> 00:45:33.000
being an old school base. Spall person. I
00:45:33.000 –> 00:45:35.000
hated the idea. Yeah. Hate the concept of
00:45:35.000 –> 00:45:38.000
it. I liked being able to be that
00:45:38.000 –> 00:45:40.000
high horse guy, Brett, where it’s like, well,
00:45:40.000 –> 00:45:42.000
we’re the only game that doesn’t have o’clock.
00:45:42.000 –> 00:45:44.000
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We’re not. Now we’re not.
00:45:44.000 –> 00:45:45.000
But
00:45:45.000 –> 00:45:46.000
from
00:45:46.000 –> 00:45:48.000
and this isn’t just a broadcaster
00:45:48.000 –> 00:45:50.000
standpoint. Look, I get a half hour backup
00:45:50.000 –> 00:45:52.000
night. It seems like. True.
00:45:52.000 –> 00:45:54.000
So that part of it is nice, but
00:45:54.000 –> 00:45:56.000
I really do believe the game wasn’t meant
00:45:56.000 –> 00:45:59.000
to take three hours every Right. We we’ve
00:45:59.000 –> 00:46:01.000
slowed things down, and a lot of it
00:46:01.000 –> 00:46:03.000
has been the information slows it down. Like,
00:46:03.000 –> 00:46:06.000
a lot of that takes time and the
00:46:06.000 –> 00:46:06.000
evolution
00:46:07.000 –> 00:46:09.000
of the utilization of bowl pens where it’s
00:46:09.000 –> 00:46:12.000
match ups in the six, seven, eight, nine.
00:46:12.000 –> 00:46:15.000
We’ll do it again. Exactly. And, obviously, that
00:46:15.000 –> 00:46:16.000
rule changed too at least with the three
00:46:16.000 –> 00:46:18.000
better minimum a couple of years ago. So
00:46:18.000 –> 00:46:20.000
that sped things up. But I really don’t.
00:46:20.000 –> 00:46:22.000
There’s no reason
00:46:22.000 –> 00:46:25.000
to be out there and hold the ball
00:46:25.000 –> 00:46:27.000
for thirty seconds. Yeah. Like, there’s not. Now
00:46:27.000 –> 00:46:30.000
I don’t like the limited takeoffs. I don’t
00:46:30.000 –> 00:46:31.000
I don’t enjoy that. I think that you
00:46:31.000 –> 00:46:33.000
should be able to do that ten times
00:46:33.000 –> 00:46:34.000
in a row if you want to. I
00:46:34.000 –> 00:46:36.000
also believe that the pitcher should be granted
00:46:36.000 –> 00:46:38.000
a time out just like they or his
00:46:38.000 –> 00:46:40.000
grand time out. I feel like that should
00:46:40.000 –> 00:46:41.000
be a thing. Great point. It just doesn’t
00:46:41.000 –> 00:46:44.000
make sense. Right? She writes that in being,
00:46:44.000 –> 00:46:45.000
I I put it in Rob Manford’s,
00:46:46.000 –> 00:46:48.000
little his box out there, the suggestion box.
00:46:48.000 –> 00:46:50.000
We’ll see we’ll see how it goes. I
00:46:50.000 –> 00:46:51.000
think a lot of pitchers have been beating
00:46:51.000 –> 00:46:53.000
that drum, but that I think that’s something
00:46:53.000 –> 00:46:54.000
that might end up happening.
00:46:54.000 –> 00:46:56.000
At some point, but I do think that
00:46:56.000 –> 00:46:57.000
the pitch clock,
00:46:57.000 –> 00:46:59.000
it did a good job of speeding things
00:46:59.000 –> 00:47:01.000
up. And I really do believe, and I
00:47:01.000 –> 00:47:04.000
don’t know if there’s actually hard data to
00:47:04.000 –> 00:47:05.000
back this up. I’m sure there is because
00:47:05.000 –> 00:47:07.000
there’s data for everything now.
00:47:07.000 –> 00:47:07.000
It’s
00:47:08.000 –> 00:47:11.000
I think that it has affected the hitters
00:47:11.000 –> 00:47:14.000
as much if not more than the pitchers.
00:47:14.000 –> 00:47:16.000
Do you have a lot of hitters that
00:47:16.000 –> 00:47:18.000
take their sweet time getting into the box
00:47:19.000 –> 00:47:22.000
redoing their batting glove. Fifty times.
00:47:22.000 –> 00:47:23.000
Skip Schumacher,
00:47:24.000 –> 00:47:26.000
manager of the year. Congratulations
00:47:26.000 –> 00:47:28.000
to help. But they’re guys and skip will
00:47:28.000 –> 00:47:29.000
do it Alright? Skip being in the box
00:47:29.000 –> 00:47:31.000
too. If there’s some guys that would take
00:47:31.000 –> 00:47:33.000
such a long time doing stuff like that,
00:47:33.000 –> 00:47:35.000
there’s no need for it. Get the box,
00:47:35.000 –> 00:47:36.000
get ready to hit. Get on the mound,
00:47:36.000 –> 00:47:37.000
get ready to throw
00:47:37.000 –> 00:47:40.000
Now, the the only one that I’m, again,
00:47:40.000 –> 00:47:42.000
I’m not sure I love is the pick
00:47:42.000 –> 00:47:44.000
offs. And I think that one of the
00:47:44.000 –> 00:47:45.000
biggest weapons
00:47:46.000 –> 00:47:48.000
that a pitcher has again, I understand why
00:47:48.000 –> 00:47:49.000
baseball is doing it. They want to speed
00:47:49.000 –> 00:47:51.000
up the game, but they also wanna add
00:47:51.000 –> 00:47:53.000
more excitement stolen bases are exciting. One of
00:47:53.000 –> 00:47:55.000
the biggest weapons that you have though with
00:47:55.000 –> 00:47:57.000
runners on base is your ability to hold
00:47:57.000 –> 00:47:58.000
the baseball.
00:47:58.000 –> 00:48:00.000
So if you are there and you got
00:48:00.000 –> 00:48:01.000
a burner at first base, if you can
00:48:01.000 –> 00:48:04.000
just hold the Gilliland a few seconds feels
00:48:04.000 –> 00:48:05.000
like an attorney for a base stealer that’s
00:48:05.000 –> 00:48:07.000
ready to move. Back and slow them down.
00:48:07.000 –> 00:48:09.000
Yeah. Now you have a countdown.
00:48:09.000 –> 00:48:11.000
So that means that the next time you
00:48:11.000 –> 00:48:12.000
go quicker. So you keep getting with your
00:48:12.000 –> 00:48:14.000
kid for sure. Yeah. For sure. So that
00:48:14.000 –> 00:48:17.000
changes a little bit, but you still have
00:48:17.000 –> 00:48:19.000
twenty seconds. Now they’re talking about bringing that
00:48:19.000 –> 00:48:22.000
down to eighteen with with runners on. You
00:48:22.000 –> 00:48:24.000
still have the ability to do it. You
00:48:24.000 –> 00:48:25.000
just have to mix it up a little
00:48:25.000 –> 00:48:27.000
more. You know what? Drives me nuts. I
00:48:27.000 –> 00:48:28.000
don’t know why it drives me. I’m like,
00:48:28.000 –> 00:48:30.000
the old man, Brett, getting mad at the
00:48:30.000 –> 00:48:31.000
shit baseball players.
00:48:31.000 –> 00:48:32.000
When they pull, you know, they get their
00:48:32.000 –> 00:48:34.000
back pocket and they’re pulling Carda. I mean,
00:48:34.000 –> 00:48:36.000
I understand what they’re doing, but I’m like,
00:48:36.000 –> 00:48:38.000
at what point do we not let’s just
00:48:38.000 –> 00:48:40.000
work. We’re professional athlete, and we gotta put
00:48:40.000 –> 00:48:42.000
some work in, and it’s not some guy
00:48:42.000 –> 00:48:43.000
hitting me car and say, okay. When this
00:48:43.000 –> 00:48:45.000
guy’s up, then you’re gonna stand. He like,
00:48:45.000 –> 00:48:47.000
like, I I just missed the gut feeling
00:48:47.000 –> 00:48:49.000
and doing what you think she should do.
00:48:49.000 –> 00:48:51.000
That’s part of the game. Yeah. And,
00:48:51.000 –> 00:48:53.000
I I agree with that. I think there
00:48:53.000 –> 00:48:55.000
are a few things. I think that we
00:48:55.000 –> 00:48:57.000
get so caught up and he’s supposed to
00:48:57.000 –> 00:48:59.000
do this. That when he does the other
00:48:59.000 –> 00:49:02.000
thing, we’re not ready. Yeah. So letting those
00:49:02.000 –> 00:49:02.000
instincts,
00:49:03.000 –> 00:49:05.000
letting that athleticism take over I think is
00:49:05.000 –> 00:49:07.000
important. It just goes back to where is
00:49:07.000 –> 00:49:09.000
the fine line. I think that if you
00:49:09.000 –> 00:49:12.000
are if you’re neglecting the data and all
00:49:12.000 –> 00:49:14.000
of the things that have happened, you’re doing
00:49:14.000 –> 00:49:16.000
it wrong. If you’re just going fully on
00:49:16.000 –> 00:49:18.000
gut instinct, you’re doing it wrong. Where’s that
00:49:18.000 –> 00:49:20.000
middle ground? Where where can we find out
00:49:20.000 –> 00:49:22.000
where we still allow the athleticism?
00:49:22.000 –> 00:49:24.000
We give you the prior knowledge tendencies,
00:49:25.000 –> 00:49:27.000
but you know that anything could happen.
00:49:28.000 –> 00:49:29.000
So I I
00:49:29.000 –> 00:49:31.000
I like that part because our athletes now
00:49:31.000 –> 00:49:34.000
in the game of baseball they’re bigger, stronger,
00:49:34.000 –> 00:49:35.000
faster, more athletic than they ever have been
00:49:35.000 –> 00:49:38.000
before. We’re not seeing it. We don’t see
00:49:38.000 –> 00:49:40.000
that athleticism anymore. And I think that that
00:49:40.000 –> 00:49:41.000
was part of the idea
00:49:41.000 –> 00:49:43.000
of limiting the shift
00:49:43.000 –> 00:49:46.000
is having more rangey athletes
00:49:46.000 –> 00:49:47.000
is not having
00:49:48.000 –> 00:49:50.000
a second baseman standing in right field when
00:49:50.000 –> 00:49:52.000
a guy hits absolute missile that was
00:49:53.000 –> 00:49:54.000
used to be a hit. Well, just about
00:49:54.000 –> 00:49:56.000
really, man. Carpenter’s great. Oh, for sure.
00:49:57.000 –> 00:49:59.000
For sure. So, again, I don’t know if
00:49:59.000 –> 00:50:01.000
like that either, the limiting of the shot.
00:50:01.000 –> 00:50:03.000
I go back and forth because,
00:50:03.000 –> 00:50:04.000
like, in my brain,
00:50:04.000 –> 00:50:07.000
I say evolve. Right? Evolve as a hitter.
00:50:07.000 –> 00:50:08.000
Yep. They’re all standing over there, hit it
00:50:08.000 –> 00:50:10.000
over that’s what I don’t understand. I’m like,
00:50:10.000 –> 00:50:12.000
for Carpenter, I’d be yelling at the TV
00:50:12.000 –> 00:50:13.000
like that stupid fan. I’m like, if they’re
00:50:13.000 –> 00:50:15.000
all over there, just slap that thing down
00:50:15.000 –> 00:50:17.000
the line and fix it. Couple of things.
00:50:17.000 –> 00:50:19.000
Right? Couple of things that go into. And
00:50:19.000 –> 00:50:20.000
it hearkens back to when I said it
00:50:20.000 –> 00:50:22.000
looks easy from up here when I’m watching
00:50:22.000 –> 00:50:24.000
the game. So I wouldn’t even stand at
00:50:24.000 –> 00:50:26.000
the batter’s house. I’d be scared to death.
00:50:26.000 –> 00:50:27.000
A lot of times, they say, Hey, just
00:50:27.000 –> 00:50:29.000
hit a ground ball the other way. Well,
00:50:30.000 –> 00:50:30.000
the pitcher
00:50:30.000 –> 00:50:33.000
knows what your tendency is. They that you’re
00:50:33.000 –> 00:50:35.000
a pull hitter. They’re gonna pitch you to
00:50:35.000 –> 00:50:36.000
it. You’re gonna get a lot of cutters
00:50:36.000 –> 00:50:38.000
and you’re gonna get a, they’re gonna let
00:50:38.000 –> 00:50:40.000
you hit it that way.
00:50:41.000 –> 00:50:43.000
It’s very difficult when somebody’s trying to get
00:50:43.000 –> 00:50:44.000
in your kitchen to hit it the other
00:50:44.000 –> 00:50:47.000
way. And then the the other part of
00:50:47.000 –> 00:50:48.000
it, Brett, is monetarily
00:50:49.000 –> 00:50:49.000
monetarily,
00:50:50.000 –> 00:50:52.000
you don’t get paid to hit three hundred.
00:50:52.000 –> 00:50:55.000
And it sucks to say, but you these
00:50:55.000 –> 00:50:57.000
guys get paid for doubles and homers. And
00:50:57.000 –> 00:51:00.000
doubles and homers aren’t coming slapping the other
00:51:00.000 –> 00:51:03.000
way. So this is this is next level.
00:51:03.000 –> 00:51:05.000
This is Rob Manfred and company Brett get
00:51:05.000 –> 00:51:07.000
together with, like, Elon Musk or something.
00:51:07.000 –> 00:51:09.000
But like how do we incentivize
00:51:09.000 –> 00:51:11.000
the game where that does get you paid?
00:51:11.000 –> 00:51:13.000
Where it’s it’s the ground ball to the
00:51:13.000 –> 00:51:15.000
right side to get the guy over. That’s
00:51:15.000 –> 00:51:18.000
quantifiable stat. Like, winning ball, winning baseball should
00:51:18.000 –> 00:51:21.000
be the goal all the time. Realize that
00:51:21.000 –> 00:51:21.000
people have,
00:51:22.000 –> 00:51:25.000
you you have a small window
00:51:25.000 –> 00:51:27.000
to go out there make your money. Yep.
00:51:27.000 –> 00:51:29.000
And you get it again. It’s strikeouts,
00:51:29.000 –> 00:51:32.000
for pitchers, it’s home runs, it’s doubles. But
00:51:32.000 –> 00:51:33.000
man, there are times in the game where
00:51:33.000 –> 00:51:35.000
I need a ground ball that one side.
00:51:35.000 –> 00:51:37.000
Yeah. Where I need that sacrifice fly. I
00:51:37.000 –> 00:51:39.000
feel like there’s gotta be a way to
00:51:39.000 –> 00:51:41.000
encompass that more into
00:51:41.000 –> 00:51:44.000
winning baseball for everybody. And you know, have
00:51:44.000 –> 00:51:47.000
a pool of money for for that or
00:51:47.000 –> 00:51:49.000
the guy that hits the single and hits
00:51:49.000 –> 00:51:51.000
three hundred or, you know, whatever
00:51:51.000 –> 00:51:54.000
I feel like we’re losing our complete baseball
00:51:54.000 –> 00:51:56.000
players, and it’s not the fact that these
00:51:56.000 –> 00:51:58.000
guys can’t do it. Like, that’s the frustrating
00:51:58.000 –> 00:52:00.000
part. It’s just the fact that the game
00:52:00.000 –> 00:52:02.000
doesn’t benefit them doing it. Yeah. That’s a
00:52:02.000 –> 00:52:03.000
good point. That’s a good point. So do
00:52:03.000 –> 00:52:05.000
we talk about the, O’Tani deal? I mean,
00:52:05.000 –> 00:52:06.000
do we do we dare go there? I
00:52:06.000 –> 00:52:07.000
mean,
00:52:07.000 –> 00:52:09.000
I should play better. That’s one of the
00:52:09.000 –> 00:52:11.000
one of the first things that I think
00:52:11.000 –> 00:52:12.000
about. Well, you should have been a right
00:52:12.000 –> 00:52:14.000
fielder as well as a person. I think
00:52:14.000 –> 00:52:16.000
so. And talent did. And, yes, No. That
00:52:17.000 –> 00:52:19.000
those all would be good. Seven year, seventy
00:52:19.000 –> 00:52:20.000
million dollar deal with what was it? Sixty
00:52:20.000 –> 00:52:20.000
eight per deferred? Yeah.
00:52:24.000 –> 00:52:26.000
That’s So here’s my my question. And you’re
00:52:26.000 –> 00:52:28.000
the financial Gilliland so here’s what I don’t
00:52:28.000 –> 00:52:30.000
understand. Maybe you know this, maybe you don’t.
00:52:30.000 –> 00:52:32.000
And I haven’t read it in to see
00:52:32.000 –> 00:52:33.000
if it’s out there. So if I’m the
00:52:33.000 –> 00:52:35.000
fan, let me go on my soapbox for
00:52:35.000 –> 00:52:36.000
a minute. If I’m the fan, that’s just
00:52:36.000 –> 00:52:38.000
great for the net. Is it seven years
00:52:38.000 –> 00:52:39.000
or ten years, whatever it is? Oh, yeah.
00:52:39.000 –> 00:52:41.000
I’m sorry. Ten years. Yeah. Ten years, seven
00:52:41.000 –> 00:52:42.000
hundred hundred million.
00:52:42.000 –> 00:52:44.000
I’m excited for the next ten years, assuming
00:52:44.000 –> 00:52:45.000
it stays healthy.
00:52:46.000 –> 00:52:48.000
But what about the eleventh year? Right? So
00:52:48.000 –> 00:52:50.000
now the guy is getting paid sixty eight
00:52:50.000 –> 00:52:51.000
million dollars.
00:52:51.000 –> 00:52:53.000
To not play for you. They they talked
00:52:53.000 –> 00:52:54.000
about Bobby Baniya,
00:52:55.000 –> 00:52:57.000
like his deal, right, with the Mets? Remember
00:52:57.000 –> 00:52:58.000
that one? Yep. Still getting paid, I think.
00:52:59.000 –> 00:53:01.000
But point is is now I’m paying sixty
00:53:01.000 –> 00:53:02.000
eight million dollars. So number one, I don’t
00:53:02.000 –> 00:53:03.000
know if I liked that as a fan.
00:53:03.000 –> 00:53:04.000
But number two,
00:53:05.000 –> 00:53:07.000
as the financial guy, O’Tani, is I’d rather
00:53:07.000 –> 00:53:09.000
have my seventy million today
00:53:10.000 –> 00:53:12.000
because my fear would be, what if what
00:53:12.000 –> 00:53:14.000
if they’re not around? Obviously, the dodgers probably
00:53:14.000 –> 00:53:15.000
aren’t going anywhere. Yeah. That’s what you think
00:53:15.000 –> 00:53:17.000
Right? What if they’re not there? So I
00:53:17.000 –> 00:53:18.000
don’t know if they buy an insurance policy
00:53:18.000 –> 00:53:20.000
on that, but he’s putting a lot of
00:53:20.000 –> 00:53:23.000
trust in the Los Angeles Dodgers to, to
00:53:23.000 –> 00:53:24.000
pay me pay me in ten years. Brad,
00:53:24.000 –> 00:53:25.000
I didn’t even think about that.
00:53:26.000 –> 00:53:27.000
That’s why I have guys like you. That’s
00:53:27.000 –> 00:53:30.000
right. They’re thinking about things like this. So,
00:53:30.000 –> 00:53:32.000
what what are the ways, I guess, that
00:53:32.000 –> 00:53:34.000
he is able to do this, not that
00:53:34.000 –> 00:53:35.000
it, like, you want your money and you
00:53:35.000 –> 00:53:37.000
wanna be able to utilize it and wanna
00:53:37.000 –> 00:53:38.000
be able to grow it. I guess one
00:53:38.000 –> 00:53:39.000
of the ways that he’s doing it, they
00:53:39.000 –> 00:53:41.000
say he makes at least over fifty million
00:53:41.000 –> 00:53:42.000
dollars a year off the field. That helps.
00:53:42.000 –> 00:53:44.000
Okay. I shouldn’t know that. To be able
00:53:44.000 –> 00:53:45.000
to do that. I figured he wasn’t going
00:53:45.000 –> 00:53:47.000
broke. No. But chances are. I think I
00:53:47.000 –> 00:53:48.000
was I was looking at this the other
00:53:48.000 –> 00:53:50.000
day. I think that with the
00:53:51.000 –> 00:53:53.000
the two million that he’s technically making. As
00:53:53.000 –> 00:53:55.000
you and I were talking before the podcast,
00:53:55.000 –> 00:53:57.000
though, like, it’ll it’ll cost more or it’ll
00:53:57.000 –> 00:53:59.000
look like more Yeah. At least when they
00:53:59.000 –> 00:54:01.000
do the luxury tax, whatever. But for the
00:54:01.000 –> 00:54:03.000
two million that he’s making, I think he’s,
00:54:03.000 –> 00:54:05.000
like, the tenth or eleventh highest paid player
00:54:05.000 –> 00:54:07.000
on the Dodgers. Right? Now. Like, it’s it’s
00:54:07.000 –> 00:54:09.000
it’s kind of a silly figure that is
00:54:09.000 –> 00:54:12.000
out there. But, yeah, I I don’t know.
00:54:12.000 –> 00:54:14.000
I don’t know how this shakes out at
00:54:14.000 –> 00:54:15.000
the end of it. I don’t know how
00:54:15.000 –> 00:54:17.000
it works out for him, but I do
00:54:17.000 –> 00:54:19.000
know it allows the dodgers a team with
00:54:19.000 –> 00:54:21.000
a lot of financial flexibility anyhow, obviously, to
00:54:21.000 –> 00:54:23.000
be able to sign a deal like this.
00:54:23.000 –> 00:54:24.000
At some point, you’re gonna to pay the
00:54:24.000 –> 00:54:26.000
piper. Yeah. But it also allows them to
00:54:26.000 –> 00:54:28.000
go out there and add more pieces. You
00:54:28.000 –> 00:54:30.000
know, they already made the Brad. They brought
00:54:30.000 –> 00:54:33.000
in glass now. Yeah. And they signed him
00:54:33.000 –> 00:54:36.000
to an extension. Apparently, they’re still in on
00:54:36.000 –> 00:54:36.000
Yamamoto
00:54:37.000 –> 00:54:39.000
Yeah. Which is crazy. And who knows, by
00:54:39.000 –> 00:54:41.000
the time somebody watches this, maybe Yamamoto has
00:54:41.000 –> 00:54:43.000
signed. Right. He’s met with a few different
00:54:43.000 –> 00:54:44.000
teams. Don’t believe the cardinals are one of
00:54:44.000 –> 00:54:46.000
them at this point. Maybe maybe they are
00:54:46.000 –> 00:54:48.000
the mystery team. We’ll go with that mystery
00:54:48.000 –> 00:54:52.000
team, but, it’s if you are able to
00:54:52.000 –> 00:54:54.000
structure a deal like that, it sure does
00:54:54.000 –> 00:54:56.000
provide your team some flexibility. And I wonder
00:54:56.000 –> 00:54:58.000
I wonder, like, what doors is this gonna,
00:54:59.000 –> 00:55:01.000
like, or this Pandora’s box. Yeah. Like doing
00:55:01.000 –> 00:55:01.000
sixty
00:55:02.000 –> 00:55:04.000
dollars. They’re gonna be able to get. They’ll
00:55:04.000 –> 00:55:05.000
pay for that. Yeah. They’ll pay for that.
00:55:05.000 –> 00:55:08.000
That’s why, I mean, unfortunately, Anutani can’t, like,
00:55:08.000 –> 00:55:10.000
as he can. But to come to Saint
00:55:10.000 –> 00:55:11.000
Louis is gonna be hard versus you gotta
00:55:11.000 –> 00:55:13.000
be in LA or New York for that
00:55:13.000 –> 00:55:14.000
amount of money. You would think. You would
00:55:14.000 –> 00:55:17.000
think so. Right? So, I’m
00:55:17.000 –> 00:55:19.000
I’m interested to see it. Like, I I’m
00:55:19.000 –> 00:55:21.000
looking forward to you. Think about that lineup.
00:55:21.000 –> 00:55:23.000
You think about three guys or you have
00:55:23.000 –> 00:55:24.000
three hall of famers in a row. You
00:55:24.000 –> 00:55:27.000
got you got Muokey Brett Shohaeotani and Freddie
00:55:27.000 –> 00:55:28.000
Freeman? Stop.
00:55:28.000 –> 00:55:30.000
It’s incredible. Yeah. You know who’s gonna be
00:55:30.000 –> 00:55:32.000
calling his game. Who’s that? Brad Thompson?
00:55:33.000 –> 00:55:35.000
That’ll be fun. I mean, right? Hope I
00:55:35.000 –> 00:55:37.000
get the Dodgers series. Did and that who
00:55:37.000 –> 00:55:39.000
we open it against? Oh, yeah. In LA,
00:55:40.000 –> 00:55:42.000
right in the beginning. I mean, Brett It’s
00:55:42.000 –> 00:55:44.000
no hate time. Because he he’ll be, yeah,
00:55:44.000 –> 00:55:46.000
he’s back. He just has the DH next
00:55:46.000 –> 00:55:47.000
year. Right? Just the DH. But he’ll be
00:55:47.000 –> 00:55:48.000
he’ll be ready for opening day. Real quick.
00:55:48.000 –> 00:55:50.000
Yeah. And he will be.
00:55:50.000 –> 00:55:52.000
That’s one of the that’s another thing. You
00:55:52.000 –> 00:55:54.000
wanna think about this investment. That just tells
00:55:54.000 –> 00:55:55.000
you off the field they’re gonna make all
00:55:55.000 –> 00:55:56.000
their money. They’re they’re gonna be fine. You
00:55:56.000 –> 00:55:58.000
have a lot of smart people crunching the
00:55:58.000 –> 00:56:00.000
over there, with the Dodgers.
00:56:01.000 –> 00:56:02.000
What what if he doesn’t pitch again? I
00:56:02.000 –> 00:56:05.000
know. He he’s had two elbow surgeries. He’s
00:56:05.000 –> 00:56:07.000
had Tommy John, and then he’s had whatever
00:56:07.000 –> 00:56:09.000
this last one was, which that they’ve kept
00:56:09.000 –> 00:56:10.000
close to the vest. Obviously, the Dodgers have
00:56:10.000 –> 00:56:13.000
to know exactly what he Brad. But that’s
00:56:13.000 –> 00:56:15.000
a lot. That is an enormous risk, but
00:56:15.000 –> 00:56:18.000
it just tells you that unicorn that Shohae
00:56:18.000 –> 00:56:21.000
O’Tani is, that even with the murkiness of
00:56:21.000 –> 00:56:22.000
the future, it makes them it’s not murky
00:56:22.000 –> 00:56:24.000
at all. I just think two surgeries, one
00:56:24.000 –> 00:56:25.000
area,
00:56:25.000 –> 00:56:27.000
is a little scary when you’re investing like
00:56:27.000 –> 00:56:29.000
that. Yeah. Like, that is that is a
00:56:29.000 –> 00:56:31.000
lot to be thrown out there. For one
00:56:31.000 –> 00:56:32.000
thing, the rehab, I mean, you know that
00:56:32.000 –> 00:56:34.000
from experience. Right? I mean, the rehab become
00:56:34.000 –> 00:56:36.000
that who knows what’s gonna happen with the
00:56:36.000 –> 00:56:39.000
arm? It’s scary, man. So, last question for
00:56:39.000 –> 00:56:41.000
you, Brad, is, you think about your amazing
00:56:41.000 –> 00:56:43.000
well, now I got two questions for you.
00:56:43.000 –> 00:56:44.000
One of them is about your kids. What
00:56:44.000 –> 00:56:46.000
what do they think? You know, obviously Dylan
00:56:46.000 –> 00:56:48.000
playing baseball and stuff now. I’m sure your
00:56:48.000 –> 00:56:50.000
daughter pays attention to that stuff. And what
00:56:50.000 –> 00:56:51.000
do they think about Brad
00:56:52.000 –> 00:56:54.000
you know, doing what you’re doing now. Yeah.
00:56:54.000 –> 00:56:55.000
They,
00:56:55.000 –> 00:56:57.000
they’re finally at the point where I think
00:56:57.000 –> 00:56:58.000
that they understand
00:56:58.000 –> 00:57:00.000
what what it is that I do. And,
00:57:00.000 –> 00:57:02.000
as as I mentioned earlier, year. My son
00:57:02.000 –> 00:57:04.000
was born Gilliland,
00:57:04.000 –> 00:57:06.000
of my career, wasn’t in the big leagues
00:57:06.000 –> 00:57:07.000
anymore. So he never got to see that.
00:57:07.000 –> 00:57:09.000
And he never, my my kids never got
00:57:09.000 –> 00:57:11.000
to come to the field with me and
00:57:11.000 –> 00:57:13.000
and go play in the field. Like, stuff
00:57:13.000 –> 00:57:14.000
that I I got to see all these
00:57:14.000 –> 00:57:16.000
other guys do. Yeah. Or I was like,
00:57:16.000 –> 00:57:18.000
look at these old guys. They’re kids.
00:57:18.000 –> 00:57:20.000
My kids never got to do that. Yeah.
00:57:20.000 –> 00:57:21.000
Like, what a great thing it is for
00:57:21.000 –> 00:57:23.000
all these these kids. They get to kinda
00:57:23.000 –> 00:57:24.000
grow up in a clubhouse.
00:57:25.000 –> 00:57:28.000
Well, I they kinda get a little bit
00:57:28.000 –> 00:57:29.000
of that now with me doing what I
00:57:29.000 –> 00:57:31.000
do. They can come up to the booth
00:57:31.000 –> 00:57:33.000
and kinda see see what that is like.
00:57:34.000 –> 00:57:36.000
But I hope they think it’s cool. There
00:57:36.000 –> 00:57:38.000
there are downsides to it. Right? Like any
00:57:38.000 –> 00:57:39.000
other job. Yep. We were talking about youth
00:57:39.000 –> 00:57:41.000
baseball earlier. Unfortunately,
00:57:41.000 –> 00:57:44.000
you know, the youth baseball season, which, like,
00:57:44.000 –> 00:57:46.000
if perfect world. You know, if I weren’t
00:57:46.000 –> 00:57:47.000
doing that, I’d be coaching all the time.
00:57:47.000 –> 00:57:49.000
Like, that’s it. I’d be I’d have a
00:57:49.000 –> 00:57:51.000
youth academy and be doing all of that.
00:57:52.000 –> 00:57:53.000
I miss a lot. I miss a lot
00:57:53.000 –> 00:57:55.000
of the kid stuff during the summer, and
00:57:55.000 –> 00:57:57.000
that that part of it is very difficult.
00:57:57.000 –> 00:57:59.000
And that’s why this time now in the
00:57:59.000 –> 00:58:01.000
off season is so great to be home
00:58:01.000 –> 00:58:03.000
be able to pour in a lot more.
00:58:03.000 –> 00:58:04.000
But I I think that they like it,
00:58:04.000 –> 00:58:06.000
but I’ll be honest with you. I think
00:58:06.000 –> 00:58:08.000
the biggest thing that they get a kick
00:58:08.000 –> 00:58:10.000
out of is that I know Fred Bird.
00:58:10.000 –> 00:58:11.000
That’s it. Like that And I do your
00:58:11.000 –> 00:58:13.000
show. Fred Bird’s my end. Yeah. I got
00:58:13.000 –> 00:58:15.000
the Partners kids TV show. That’s my end.
00:58:15.000 –> 00:58:16.000
That’s awesome. And that last question I was
00:58:16.000 –> 00:58:19.000
gonna talk about is the community is very
00:58:19.000 –> 00:58:21.000
important to you, and you and your, amazing
00:58:21.000 –> 00:58:22.000
wife, you guys do awesome stuff for our,
00:58:22.000 –> 00:58:24.000
for our community here in Saint Louis. But
00:58:24.000 –> 00:58:26.000
when when you think about legacy, I mean,
00:58:26.000 –> 00:58:27.000
what do you what do you got the
00:58:27.000 –> 00:58:29.000
Thompson family to be known for.
00:58:29.000 –> 00:58:32.000
And, what’s important about that to you? Man,
00:58:32.000 –> 00:58:33.000
it’s it’s a great question. Honestly, I I’m
00:58:33.000 –> 00:58:35.000
not sure how much I’ve actually thought about
00:58:35.000 –> 00:58:38.000
leg Like, I thought about down the road.
00:58:38.000 –> 00:58:40.000
But I know this, I I don’t ever
00:58:40.000 –> 00:58:43.000
wanna be the person that is is walking
00:58:43.000 –> 00:58:44.000
up and you’re like, oh, here you go.
00:58:44.000 –> 00:58:46.000
Or are, like, I I want to be
00:58:46.000 –> 00:58:48.000
somebody that that leaves,
00:58:48.000 –> 00:58:51.000
when somebody thinks about me or what I
00:58:51.000 –> 00:58:53.000
do, like, they smile. Like, and,
00:58:53.000 –> 00:58:56.000
they I wanna bring excitement. I wanna bring
00:58:56.000 –> 00:58:58.000
happiness, and I I want to be able
00:58:58.000 –> 00:59:00.000
to give back. And I think that that
00:59:00.000 –> 00:59:01.000
is important, Brett. And I know that something
00:59:01.000 –> 00:59:03.000
that you and your wife do a ton
00:59:03.000 –> 00:59:05.000
of in in our community. And, it’s something
00:59:05.000 –> 00:59:07.000
that I would love to just build something
00:59:07.000 –> 00:59:09.000
more than the right here, the right now,
00:59:09.000 –> 00:59:11.000
the the this game. And, you know, that’s
00:59:11.000 –> 00:59:12.000
kind of a a process. But I think
00:59:12.000 –> 00:59:14.000
it’s also a great example.
00:59:14.000 –> 00:59:16.000
You’ve got a, you know, a young family
00:59:16.000 –> 00:59:19.000
who learning how important that is that it’s
00:59:19.000 –> 00:59:22.000
more so than just the the I am
00:59:22.000 –> 00:59:23.000
doing this right now and say, no, what
00:59:23.000 –> 00:59:26.000
we doing? What are we doing as a
00:59:26.000 –> 00:59:27.000
as a community as a as a people?
00:59:27.000 –> 00:59:30.000
So, I’d like to continue to grow that.
00:59:30.000 –> 00:59:32.000
But I think that any way that, you
00:59:32.000 –> 00:59:34.000
know, I can help in the community. I
00:59:34.000 –> 00:59:36.000
like to do. I like to to be
00:59:36.000 –> 00:59:38.000
around and I like to just be a
00:59:38.000 –> 00:59:40.000
part of things. And it’s special being here,
00:59:41.000 –> 00:59:42.000
being a part of the community of Saint
00:59:42.000 –> 00:59:44.000
Louis and the greater Saint Louis area
00:59:45.000 –> 00:59:45.000
is,
00:59:45.000 –> 00:59:48.000
it’s big. But it’s small. Right. It feels
00:59:48.000 –> 00:59:50.000
like, a Gilliland it’s it’s nice to be
00:59:50.000 –> 00:59:52.000
a part of it. Looking for the date
00:59:52.000 –> 00:59:54.000
exactly. I should know that.
00:59:54.000 –> 00:59:56.000
But speaking of stuff for the community, for
00:59:56.000 –> 00:59:58.000
those listening, February tenth, put that on your
00:59:58.000 –> 01:00:01.000
calendar, the the KC Hall in Ofoul in
01:00:01.000 –> 01:00:03.000
Illinois, Rock for Hope. Oh, nice. For Hope,
01:00:03.000 –> 01:00:06.000
Charity got a Brad, the Nashville All stars
01:00:06.000 –> 01:00:08.000
is what we’re calling about. It’s like big
01:00:08.000 –> 01:00:10.000
country music people. It’s like their guitar player,
01:00:10.000 –> 01:00:12.000
their drummer, their what Yes. When they’re not
01:00:12.000 –> 01:00:14.000
traveling with their main people, they come together.
01:00:14.000 –> 01:00:16.000
And so they’re coming here from Nashville, Tennessee
01:00:17.000 –> 01:00:18.000
on, February tenth
01:00:19.000 –> 01:00:20.000
at the KC Hall, we’re gonna raise some
01:00:20.000 –> 01:00:22.000
money. We’re gonna kick cancer’s ass and listen
01:00:22.000 –> 01:00:24.000
to an amazing band. So maybe you’ll see
01:00:24.000 –> 01:00:26.000
Brad Thompson there. Oh, no doubt. If I’m
01:00:26.000 –> 01:00:28.000
in town, I’m there. You’re there. How long
01:00:28.000 –> 01:00:30.000
have you guys been going with swingpro?
01:00:30.000 –> 01:00:31.000
It’s
01:00:32.000 –> 01:00:34.000
been amazing, man. It’s a long time. And
01:00:34.000 –> 01:00:37.000
so, you know, my the story, my mom’s,
01:00:37.000 –> 01:00:40.000
my mom’s mom and her grandma and two
01:00:40.000 –> 01:00:41.000
of her aunts were all diagnosed with cancer
01:00:41.000 –> 01:00:43.000
at the same time within about a six
01:00:43.000 –> 01:00:44.000
or seven month period.
01:00:44.000 –> 01:00:46.000
And, so that that was a lot. And
01:00:46.000 –> 01:00:47.000
so
01:00:47.000 –> 01:00:49.000
we were driving and thinking what are we
01:00:49.000 –> 01:00:50.000
gonna do about this? And so we started
01:00:50.000 –> 01:00:52.000
our charity. And so with amazing people in
01:00:52.000 –> 01:00:54.000
the community, look out the windows here. I
01:00:54.000 –> 01:00:55.000
mean, we couldn’t do what we do without
01:00:55.000 –> 01:00:57.000
the people on our our board and people
01:00:57.000 –> 01:00:59.000
like you that show up to events. It’s
01:00:59.000 –> 01:01:01.000
just it’s awesome, man. So thanks for asking.
01:01:01.000 –> 01:01:03.000
But it’s, this is about Brad Thompson.
01:01:04.000 –> 01:01:06.000
Two thousand twenty four season. What were we
01:01:06.000 –> 01:01:06.000
predicting?
01:01:07.000 –> 01:01:09.000
More wins. Yeah. More wins. That’s for a
01:01:09.000 –> 01:01:11.000
quote. Hey, look. The cardinals, they they made
01:01:11.000 –> 01:01:13.000
some additions. I know a lot of people
01:01:13.000 –> 01:01:14.000
joking around. I was like, man, they got
01:01:14.000 –> 01:01:16.000
older. It got better is is what they
01:01:16.000 –> 01:01:18.000
did. And, at this point,
01:01:18.000 –> 01:01:21.000
three additions to your rotation, Sunny Gravee, and
01:01:21.000 –> 01:01:23.000
the headliner who I think is a fantastic
01:01:23.000 –> 01:01:24.000
you have a three year deal for Sunny
01:01:24.000 –> 01:01:26.000
Gray guy that knows exactly what he’s doing.
01:01:27.000 –> 01:01:28.000
I think that he’s gonna be Brett. Second
01:01:28.000 –> 01:01:30.000
in the Sa Young voting last year.
01:01:31.000 –> 01:01:33.000
Lancelyn and Kyle Gibson adds certainty in the
01:01:33.000 –> 01:01:36.000
middle of your rotation, and especially Lance Lynn
01:01:36.000 –> 01:01:38.000
and Kyle Gibson adds leadership for sure. But,
01:01:39.000 –> 01:01:42.000
Lance Lynn adds an element that you didn’t
01:01:42.000 –> 01:01:44.000
have, somebody that a little porcupine,
01:01:44.000 –> 01:01:45.000
a little bristle,
01:01:46.000 –> 01:01:48.000
in there that will push back. And I
01:01:48.000 –> 01:01:50.000
think that’s an important thing to have club
01:01:50.000 –> 01:01:51.000
houses. So I I know that he’s gonna
01:01:51.000 –> 01:01:53.000
add that. You picked up a couple of
01:01:53.000 –> 01:01:55.000
bullpen arms, wanting to trade with Boston, other
01:01:55.000 –> 01:01:57.000
in the rule five draft. I I don’t
01:01:57.000 –> 01:01:59.000
believe that they’re done yet when it comes
01:01:59.000 –> 01:02:01.000
to the pen. So I’m excited. I’m excited
01:02:01.000 –> 01:02:03.000
to see the young guys. I wanna see
01:02:03.000 –> 01:02:05.000
a year two of Jordan Walker. Yeah. Can’t
01:02:05.000 –> 01:02:07.000
wait to watch Mason win, man short stop
01:02:07.000 –> 01:02:09.000
for a season the kid is. So he’ll
01:02:09.000 –> 01:02:10.000
start. They already said that. Yeah. I believe
01:02:10.000 –> 01:02:12.000
so. Like, that’s the plan, at least, that
01:02:12.000 –> 01:02:13.000
he’ll be the guy.
01:02:14.000 –> 01:02:17.000
So I’m looking forward to that. Gilliland Aronado,
01:02:17.000 –> 01:02:20.000
another year with those guys. Like, everything is
01:02:20.000 –> 01:02:21.000
right there for the cardinals
01:02:22.000 –> 01:02:24.000
to compete and hopefully win the central. Other
01:02:24.000 –> 01:02:26.000
teams have been pretty quiet in the central.
01:02:26.000 –> 01:02:28.000
I don’t expect come to stay quiet the
01:02:28.000 –> 01:02:30.000
entire time other than hiring Craig Council away
01:02:30.000 –> 01:02:33.000
from the Milwaukee brewers, which is crazy. You’re
01:02:33.000 –> 01:02:35.000
in division, isn’t it? Yeah. Well, especially how
01:02:35.000 –> 01:02:37.000
much money they paid Right? Gave him a
01:02:37.000 –> 01:02:39.000
a forty million dollar deal over five years.
01:02:39.000 –> 01:02:39.000
Pretty impressive.
01:02:40.000 –> 01:02:42.000
So you would believe that they’re not done
01:02:42.000 –> 01:02:43.000
adding to it. But I think that they
01:02:43.000 –> 01:02:45.000
should be competing for their vision this year.
01:02:45.000 –> 01:02:47.000
And I know cardinal fans, like, hate to
01:02:47.000 –> 01:02:49.000
hear it because they they wanna talk about
01:02:49.000 –> 01:02:51.000
building what the Dodgers Brett. Right? Go out
01:02:51.000 –> 01:02:53.000
and just spend all all of this money,
01:02:53.000 –> 01:02:54.000
but it is very true. And I think
01:02:54.000 –> 01:02:56.000
the Dodgers can tell you this too is
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they don’t win the world series every time
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they get there, get into the post season,
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get yourself and specifically win your division,
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win your Gilliland
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you never know what’s gonna happen when you
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get into October. So that’s the hope this
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year that we have a deep run into
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October, I think you got the right pieces
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to do. And I also know that you
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have the right prospect capital. If you get
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close to the trade deadline, you believe that
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you’re a piece short,
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that John Jose logged, Michael Gers, they can
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go out and make a deal like. Yeah.
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That’s awesome. Where do our listeners find more
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of Brad Thompson?
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Right here. On this podcast is where you
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find out. I’m, hopefully be doing a lot
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more games on on Valley sports,
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doing a lot of fill in work on
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01:01 ESPN as know, I’ve scaled back, but
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I can’t stay all the way out. You
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know, Andrea doesn’t want me home all the
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time, Brad. I gotta be able to get
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out of the house. So, hopefully, you hear
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me popping up a little bit more here
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this new year. Man, thanks so much for
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being on the circuit of success. I appreciate
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having you. I think I think you might
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be the only three time guest because you
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were I looked at this last night. Really?
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We did this in April.
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I started this February six two thousand seventeen.
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You were on an April of two thousand
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seventeen. I looked, so our kids would have
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been, like, three. That my fourth and your
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oldest would have been three. And then we
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did,
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which was a blast for me. Hopefully, it
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was fun for you all. Me, you, Jason
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Iseringhausen,
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Kyle McClellan, Jason Simonachi, and Brian Jordan. That
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was a fun one. That was awesome. We’re
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all at home. Remember that? It’s supposed to
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be open today? It’s supposed to be opening
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day for the cardinals, and we had an
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amazing, I don’t know, hour and a half,
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two hour deal. So that was awesome. So,
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brother, thank you for being with us again.
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It’s awesome having you. Thank you for having
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me as honored three times.
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Dive into the fascinating world of professional baseball and sports talk radio with our latest episode featuring Brad Thompson. From dreams of playing in the big leagues in Las Vegas to winning the World Series with the St. Louis Cardinals in 2006. As a former St. Louis Cardinals player turned broadcaster, Brad unfolds his inspiring transition from the baseball diamond to the airwaves. Brett and Brad talk about 2024 season predictions and some of the favorites in Major League Baseball. Tune in for an insightful conversation blending baseball, MLB insights, and the business of sports. ⚾? Don’t miss this episode of The Circuit of Success!
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I’ve got my buddy, Brad Thompson.
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What’s up, Brad? How are you doing? I’m
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doing great, man. Thanks for having me. I
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was getting bored at the house. I’m glad
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somebody called finally. Well, yeah. You’re doing radio
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now, what? Part time. Is that right? Yeah.
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Filling in a little bit. It’s it’s been
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a change for me. It’s been, as you
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know, I was doing drive time radio,
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on one of 1PM on the fast lane
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for, like, last ten years.
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This past year doing more baseball games, with
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the cardinals, which Brad a blast doing. Season
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didn’t go exactly I had a lot of
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fun doing the games. I’m sure we’ll get
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into that, but,
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I scaled back my work on that side.
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So now I’m not doing that every day,
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and I’m, I’m reintroducing myself of the family
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in the off season. My dog’s not barking
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at me now, so that’s good. Who the
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hell? I’m just gonna change. Yeah. It’s a
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big change. It is a big change, man.
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Well, You are a blast, as I’ve told
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you a million times to watch on, the
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television. I think you do a great job
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with the games. And even despite the season
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we Brad, It was, that’s gotta be tough,
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which I’m gonna ask that later. But, for
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those that don’t know you, two thousand six
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world series champ ESPN Radio, as you mentioned,
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announcer for the Saint Louis cardinals.
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Just an all around great guy, but just
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give us a little bit of lay of
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the background of people that, again, that maybe
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not know who you are. What’s made you
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the man you are today? Yeah. Well, look,
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I I I never
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expected
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or intended to be where I am right
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now. In o’fallon, Illinois live here.
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In the media at all that was never
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a thought. I just saw it was a
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kid who grew up in Las Vegas, Nevada,
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and, I just love playing baseball.
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And,
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it’s
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you generally hear
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people’s story of how they made it to
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the big leagues, and it’s oftentimes the same
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story. It’s like, oh, he’s the best player
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on this team, the best player on his
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high school team, two way player hit home
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runs, played shortstop. That is not my story,
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like, at all. I don’t think I was
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ever the best player on any team that
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I played on, and I’m not talking about
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any big league teams, like Albert Pujols and
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all these guys running around. I’m talking about,
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like, Timmy that picks his boogers wasn’t even
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the best player on on that team growing
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up, but I always loved it. And I
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always, worked hard, and I was just always
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there. Like, you know, I and think that’s
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one of the the biggest things whenever I
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have an opportunity to talk to kids. You
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don’t have to be the best player on
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the team. You don’t have to have the
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best skill set You have to care. You
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have to want to get better and you
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have to work. And if you do those
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things, opportunities might come. And that was the
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case for me. Out of high school, I
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got an opportunity
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right before school was about to start to
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go to a smaller junior college in Utah,
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at the time, Dixie State College,
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now Utah Tech d one school now, but
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a junior college back in the day. And,
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snuck on there did well,
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after my second year there ended up getting
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drafted by the cardinals, and it was just
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a kind of a a whirlwind. Spent two
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years in the minor leagues.
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And a month into my third year, a
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guy called up to the big leagues and
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made a career out of it. And it
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wasn’t the easiest. I I’m well traveled, Brett.
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You know that. I know I know the
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way from Saint Louis to Memphis really well.
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Big leagues to triple a. The ups and
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downs of have been incredibly blessed though to
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be able to to play the game that
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I love and do it as a living
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and now jump into this, which again, wasn’t
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unexpected. Yeah. I think I owe you a
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couple lunches still from little kids baseball. Can
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we talk about that on a podcast? Yes.
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We didn’t do that. We did not bet
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on lunch and his kids We just had
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webs my kids team all the time. And
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We had hunches of gonna lie. I had
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a hunch. Yeah. You were you were betting
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with your heart. It was crazy. Like, he
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didn’t even have a chance, but, hey, we,
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we tried to make happened. So I was
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gonna ask you too. Have you, have you
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seen Tiger Woods lately?
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No. Have you? No. Just in spring training.
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Just in spring. When you and I were
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creeping his restaurant. Damn. So what’s that private
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party out there? Looks like an awful lot
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of security for just a normal private party,
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doesn’t it? You and I are peaking. Yeah.
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Tiger was there. Tucker was there. We were
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in the same restaurant. We’re having dinner, Brad
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and I. And,
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well, my gosh, that’s a lot of people.
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I think I even tried to go to
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the restroom and turn right. And Sorry. You
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gotta go this way. Exactly.
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And then we found out, I think, wasn’t
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it you or me? Somebody got a text
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that Tiger Woods. They didn’t know we were
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there at the restaurant. They’re like Tiger Woods
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is at his restaurant Jupiter, and I’m like,
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oh, crap. We missed him. Yeah. Head his,
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like, daughter, soccer, partner, some either way, I
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think that we could say we had, dinner
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with tag. We had dinner with tags or
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did. Yeah. They were signed their their giveaway.
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You know, my kids, they give away like,
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you know, sour patch kids. I think Tiger’s
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end of the year party. They had signed
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soccer balls from Tiger Woods. That’s pretty good.
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And a whole new bag of clubs. A
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whole new bag of clubs. Well, good for
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them. So,
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let’s talk about post based ball career, man.
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So,
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and you and you already mentioned this, but
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what what did you think you were gonna
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be doing versus what you’re doing now? Yeah.
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So before I ended up signing with the
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cardinals, I had signed to after junior college.
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I was gonna go back to Las Vegas
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go to UN LV. I signed to play,
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there for the for the rebels.
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And my goal was to go into
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criminal justice. I wanted to be an attorney.
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Is is kind of the direction that I
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thought I was heading.
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And, obviously, did not go that route, but
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that was, like, the thought that go get
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into criminal justice. I I thought I wanted
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to go the route of attorney.
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And, that was gonna be the path. Now
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the path took me through baseball. And it
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was tough decision to make at the time
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too because
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I had the chance to get have my
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school paid for potentially get drafted higher maybe
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the next year, make make maybe a little
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bit more money out of the draft, which
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I didn’t make a lot of money. But
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I also thought what if what if I
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never get this chance again? What if I
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never have an opportunity
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to say that I played professional baseball. I
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can always go back to school. Yep. But
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I can’t always get this chance again. So
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ultimately, I landed on that decision.
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And so so grateful that I did. But
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you had never thought that the media side
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was gonna be a thing. And honestly, it
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was it wasn’t even on the radar. I
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wasn’t sure, Brett, what direction I gonna go.
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I knew I was nearing the end of
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my baseball career. I was playing independent ball
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for those that don’t know independent baseball is
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It’s still professional baseball. You get paid. Not
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a lot. You get paid nonetheless, but it’s
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just not affiliated with one of the major
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league teams. I was playing in, the Atlantic
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League which baseball fans will know what the
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Atlantic League is. It’s also been a league
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that’s kinda broken. Some of these major league
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baseball new rules before baseball breaks him in.
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Yeah.
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But a lot of former big leaguers, good
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baseball league. But I was playing there, and
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I just kinda I knew that I was
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I got it. Velocity wasn’t coming back. I
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had Tommy John surgery in twenty ten. And
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for those that know me well, velocity was
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never my thing anyhow. So losing a tick
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off the radar gun, we not a big
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thing, but I got a phone call in
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the off season,
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and this was prior to my final year
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of playing.
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And it was from program director at 01:01
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ESPN. I’m sure I’ve told you this story
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in the past, but he called me and
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said, Hey, I got your number from Chris
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Duncan.
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And Cardinal fans. Remember Chris Duncan. Good. Take
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time. Yeah, man. One of my best friends
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ever, unfortunately, passed away, Brad cancer
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and this was in the beginning of it.
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Dunk was was Brad to leave for some
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medic his, you know, medical issues. And program
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director called and said, Dunk passed along your
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number.
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I said he thought you would be good
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at this.
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Could you fill in on a Monday?
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I said, my wife probably wants me out
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of the house right now. It’s the office.
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Can you pay me a couple bucks? Yeah.
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I’m gonna sit around. I’m gonna sit around
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and watch football all weekend anyhow. That’s probably
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what you’re gonna talk about come Monday. I
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did. And I took over the weekend. It
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was like copious notes, just like you, you’re
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a note taker. Right? I’m Brett down all
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these college games these NFL games, like, come
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in. I get this stack of notes ready
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to go. I didn’t know what to expect.
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I never grew up. I didn’t listen to
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sports talk radio. I didn’t know how big
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of a thing that was. And, like, that
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actually really eye opening to me over the
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years of the connection you can have with
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the fan base actually doing that, but I
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I never had that.
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So one segment in, I get called out
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into the hallway.
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And I’ve said, oh, I must’ve said a
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magic word. I said one of the things
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that you can’t say here.
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And I said, did did that happen? He’s
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like, no. No. He’s like, you’re really good.
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Would you mind staying the rest of the
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week? I said, yeah. Would love to stay
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the rest of the week. And that rest
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of the week turned into the rest of
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the off season, which actually turned into before
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I was going to play, and what what
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was gonna be my final, you know, final
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year didn’t know it at the time.
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But they offered me a full time position.
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At that time,
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on a morning show.
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I said, man, I I I really appreciate
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the opportunity.
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Can’t do it. Like, I need to know
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that baseball’s done. Because the last thing
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that I wanted was to be sitting there
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and doing a job that I like,
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but wondering what could that have been like,
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you know, had I gone back? Maybe I
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found something or maybe magically the arm reappeared.
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Now, fortunately. The arm didn’t reappear, Brett. None
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of that stuff happened. I didn’t want that
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thought. I didn’t want that doubt that, that
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I did the wrong thing. So I went
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back and played. And after a few months
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in, I just knew the timing wasn’t right.
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My wife Andrea, she was pregnant with our
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our first with our first.
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He was born in May. I came home
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for a week.
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And I was like, man, I I’m this
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isn’t the place for me. I got I’ve
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gotta be done. I need to go home.
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I need to be with my family, and
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I need to figure out what is next.
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So I made the phone call, back to
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one one ESPN. I say, Hey, any chance
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you guys still got that job
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sitting there? And he said, we’ve been keeping
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a spot open for you. It ended up
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being in the afternoon show at the with
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Randy Carricker and Demarco Farris. If you’re ready
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to come back, we’re ready to have you.
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I said, well It was just the two
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of them at the time, maybe? Okay. Yep.
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And because it was the three. Chris Duncan
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was the third on that show. And they
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they had left that one open. And,
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fortunately,
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I was able to slide into that, that
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spot and learn so much from them Randy
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Carrick are one of my biggest mentors, and
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I love the way that Demarco Far, who’s,
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you know, he’s now in LA, followed the
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Rams out there.
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I love the way that he went about
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it, the energy and the excitement that he
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had and just kinda feeding off those guys
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and learning along the way and try not
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saying to magic words to get fired. And
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ten years later, you know, here we are.
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It’s amazing. Absolutely amazing. And I I think,
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you know, it’s crazy when you think about
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your career path, what you thought gonna happen.
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I think so many times, you know, we
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do planning for a living. Right? And it’s
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like,
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I plan these things, but, you know, there’s
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other sometimes other plans. And you just don’t
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know what they are. I think when you
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just gotta have trust and you gotta have
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faith and you gotta do great work and
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show up every day. And because I’m sure
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there was days I’ve talked to other players
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that when you when you
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retire, and that thing you love is gone.
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And Yeah. Arguably gone forever, right, that that’s
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probably pretty emotional. And So to find that
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next gear, what what was that process like
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for you
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to find out, and, obviously, you landed into
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that. But was there that emotional thing where
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you had to, like, think and journal and
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dream and do whatever? Oh, you’re huge.
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It was I still remember
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very vividly the drive home. So middle of
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the season Gilliland
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I had, I had given
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my, my manager the heads up, just told
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him I’d say, hey, I’ll stay here as
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long as
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you need to find a replacement for me,
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but I gotta go. I gotta I’m I’m
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ready to go home. He tried to talk
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me into being the pitching coach. I said,
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I I can’t. I gotta And what town
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was that again? This is somerset, New Jersey.
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Okay. Said said, you know, be on the
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same page. She was here. Yeah. She was
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here. Newborn son is here.
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So it it was it was
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flattering that they wanted to keep me around
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and wanted me to be around the team
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and maybe that would have started a new
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patch. Maybe that would have been coaching and
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and going from there. But,
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my heart was here. Right? Had had to
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go home, but I remember the drive. It
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was so bad of calling everybody, calling family,
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calling, like, my wife, Yeah. That’s it. Like,
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it’s a last road trip. So it’s, that’s
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emotional, right, when you’re when you’re going through
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it. But you also know, like, you know,
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something’s over. You know when it’s time to
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move on, and that’s where we were at.
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We were at that that that point. So
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when it comes to like finding a passion
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for a new thing,
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whatever I do, I try to, like, jump
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into. I try to just roll in. The
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energy, the enthusiasm, whether whether it’s it’s doing
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radio, it’s doing an interview,
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hanging out with the family, like, try to
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jump in. There are days where maybe you
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don’t feel like that. Mhmm. But it’s amazing
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if you come in with that attitude as
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you very well know,
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that’s how your day starts going. Right? So,
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I kinda poured into it and it started
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when I got that phone call. Like I
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said, I’m taking the notes and I’m saying,
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if I’m gonna do this, I’m gonna do
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I’m not just gonna show up. And I’ve
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seen this a lot now, especially being in
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the business. You see a lot of former
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athletes
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show up and say, I played. I got
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this. Yeah. And then you’re you’re talking to
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him for a little bit or they’re speaking.
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It’s like, he doesn’t he doesn’t have this.
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Like, it’s it’s very obvious that it’s it’s
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not an easy thing to do. I think
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a lot of people at home are are
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saying, boss, easy. I watch sports, easy to
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talk about. Sure. So sometimes sometimes it is.
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Other times, it takes it takes different little
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avenues or or nuances
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to to get through it. So But it’s
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also, like, you gotta you gotta know, you
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know, when to talk, you gotta know when
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your voice goes up. Right? There’s more to
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it than just, oh, I know about Yes.
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Well, and that’s something that you learn as
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you go to. Yeah. And that is something
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that I’ve had to learn a lot more
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with the TV side of things as I’ve
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been doing those ball games for the last
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couple of years is the
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the picture is there on the screen. So
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I can’t be talking about something that maybe
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even I, like, I care about it a
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lot, whatever. I’ve got a good story. If
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they’re showing on the screen, it’s Miles Michaelis
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or whoever, that’s who we’re talking about or
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that, like, that’s what the story is at
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the time. You have to know when to
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get in, when to get out, but it’s
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reps. Yeah. And it’s caring about that. And
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it’s realizing when you mess something up because
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I in my line of work, I know
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when I mess something up, it’s very evident.
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Like, usually there’s producer near yourself. What was
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that? Don’t do it. Nothing. But you you
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care enough to fix it and just going
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back to the jumping into a new thing.
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This is another thing I like to tell
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kids when I get an opportunity or adults.
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It’s a good thing to remember,
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you never know when an opportunity is gonna
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come your way. Yeah. You never know. Nope.
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You know when one passes you, though. Like,
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you know when something just walks out the
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door and say, I should have done that.
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So I wanna be ready for that. I
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wanna be ready for whatever that next opportunity
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is. Yeah. And I I always talk to
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the old paralysis by analysis. Right? You could
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have that opportunity, but so many people will
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go back and they gotta
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think and think and think. And then what
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happens is they think themselves out of it.
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Yeah. This is a great idea because AB
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and see, but then that negative thought up
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here in our mind says, well, I can’t
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do it because I’m this, and I’m that.
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And I think so many times what try
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to help people with is just just take
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action. That’s one of the circuits on the
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circuit of success. Take action. Doesn’t mean you
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have the whole thing figured out. But if
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you trust yourself, again, I’ve said it a
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million times, you show up to work every
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day.
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Good things are probably gonna happen. For sure.
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Right? So liking this to baseball. Okay? Because
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this happens a lot nowadays, paralysis by analysis.
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We have all of this data. We have
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all of these analytics.
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One of my one of the most important
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things I believe for any athlete is trust
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your gut. Like, trust you, believe in your
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stuff. I don’t care, if this guy can’t
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hit this or can’t do that, what do
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you do well? Yeah. What is your strength?
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And I think that’s one of the biggest
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things in any walk of life. Like, what
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what is your strength? Do you trust in
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what you’re doing? If you trust in what
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you’re doing, good things are gonna happen. It
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might not be the direct route that you’re
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expecting it to happen might not be just
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a to b very easy, but you’ll get
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there at some point if you believe in
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what you’re doing. That’s right. Yeah. A hundred
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percent. I’ve I think about
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I my first job out of college, I
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was there for about, six weeks. I don’t
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think I’ve ever told this on the podcast,
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but,
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I was there for six weeks. I was
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in the financial He’s at a different firm.
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And I got a call on a Tuesday
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night that the guy that I was supposed
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to have lunch with the next day, my
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mentor,
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who I’d never met. Yeah. Tomorrow was the
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big day. Right? Here am twenty two years
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old. We’re living in this tiny condo in
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Saint Louis. My wife’s got an internship at
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Barnes.
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We had one car, and I’m gonna go
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this lunch. I get the call on Tuesday.
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He actually,
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died by suicide. Oh my god. And,
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jumped off a building, actually. And and so
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here I am, this twenty two year old
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kid, I’m getting ready to go start literally
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to knock on doors and try to build
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a business and, you know, got acne. I’m
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like, I look like I’m twelve. You know,
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I’m like, hey, give me your money.
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And so I said I’m never gonna be
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in financial planning. I’m never gonna do investments.
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That’s just not my deal. I actually went
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to Bush Stadium. I was gonna the next,
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you know, now jump as they lucked at
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the time, Mark Lamping. That’s what I thought
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I was gonna do. I applied for a
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job. They said, we don’t have any jobs,
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but not a bartender? I said, yeah. I
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know the bartender. They said, we need a
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bartender for the game tonight. So if the
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old bush that you played in, right, they
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had remember the left field at the stadium
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club. Yeah. Yeah. How’s the bartender in there?
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Long story short, I got another call from
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a company that said, come in. Let’s do
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an interview. I said, look, I’ll come in
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for the practice. I was very upfront. Well,
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I spent twelve and a half years there.
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Now ten years of visionary, and I’ve done
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nothing but investment. That’s good practice. Right. Good
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practice. But the point to that is what
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what is the point of that story. Right?
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Right? But I think the point is is
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you never know because what you said, you
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never know where it’s gonna go. How you
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take it, and then you take it to
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the next level by what you put into
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it. Gilliland,
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like, to your earlier point, a tragic event,
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obviously, with with with your mentor,
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but
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that life is not your life. You know?
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Like, there are different things weighing on him
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than weighing on you. It’s not necessarily the
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industry that you’re in. Don’t care if you
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you could be in the happiest industry in
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the world or the saddest industry in the
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world. You’d be in the happiest industry and
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be a sad person. You could be, a
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sad industry and be a happy person. It’s
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your mindset. It’s the way that that you
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go about it, and you just gotta be
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ready for when that one pops up. But
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that is like, I’m thinking about the conversation
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that you had. It was marked lamping at
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the time. Yeah. So and who runs the
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jaguars now. Right? So Oh, I think that’s
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right. I I I’m just picturing. It’s like,
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I’m interested in this job. No, but bartending.
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Yeah. Like, that’s, like, what what a drastic?
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What just happened? Let’s see if this kid
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will do that. Yeah. He will. Yeah. But
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that’s one of the things too. Like, in
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and this is a big thing in the
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radio industry. If someone asks you, hey, can
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you do x, y, or z. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yes. I can. I can do that. And
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you can dig in, you figure it out.
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It can you interview so and so? You
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might be a young producer
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Yeah. I can do that. That’s a chance.
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Like, that is an opportunity. You might be
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scared to death. Nobody knows what you’re feeling.
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Nobody knows what you’re thinking as you’re going
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through it. Take the opportunity. The answer is
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yes. Can you do it? Yes. I’ll figure
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it out. Yeah. Well, Danny Max said in
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this podcast. He said he started with he
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was running tapes or whatever they called it
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back in. Right? He’s like, literally, it’d be
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on a cart. I’d run him from one
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room to the other so the guys could
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talk about on the air. Yes.
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Cut up tape. And Yeah. It’s crazy. So,
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how did you how do how do you
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draw up on your playing career?
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Now being an announcer. Do you think back
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to your playing days? Like, does that play
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a role in the in the booth? Yeah.
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It does. I I think back to more
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so, like, than referencing my career, which is
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lack luster. Like, I’m actually gonna go back.
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Serious champ, darn right. I’m gonna have you
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say that a few more times as we
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go through this. No. More so I think
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about all, I think about emotions. I think
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about the emotions of what a player is
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going through at a given time because it
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is very easy to sit where we sit,
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you’re high up, and you’re you’re watching on
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a screen, you see the field in front
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of you, game looks easy. Like, it looks
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really easy when you’re watching at home, you’re
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a couple of cold beers. Like, why didn’t
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he hit that ball down the middle that
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I realized I’ve I’ve stood in that batter’s
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box. I’ve been on that amount. I’ve done
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it during the regular season. I’ve done it
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in the post season. I’ve done it in
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the world series. It is a different perspective
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when you’re actually going through it and things
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aren’t that easy. So that’s one of the
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things that I really try to remember
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when I’m in the booth and I’m doing
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games. It’s not that easy. So
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I’m not gonna also lie to somebody when
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you’re watching the game. I’m not gonna spit
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on you and tell you it’s raining. Right.
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When something is bad, it’s bad. But I’ll
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frame it in a way where, hey, nine
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times out of ten, he’s gonna make that
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play. Yeah. Because I believe that. Yeah. You
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know, I I believe that the the good
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things are gonna outweigh the bad things you
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have to mention the bad things. I talked
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about the bad season that the cardinals had.
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Twenty games under five hundred. It’s hard to
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sugar coat that. Right? But also have to
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believe in the fact that you didn’t have
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a losing season,
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since o seven before that. We’re very spoiled.
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Yeah. And you know that good things are
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gonna be on the horizon also, but Yeah.
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I I always go back to being in
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those shoes, what it’s like. And then the
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other thing that I lean on a lot
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is the preparation. I know what the preparation
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was like as a player. I know how
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I would dig in and learn about these
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hitters. Now there’s far more information now than
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there was when I was playing. And maybe
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too much information for some guys. I think
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that’s one of the biggest challenges is how
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to spoon feed some of these players the
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information that they need without giving them the
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quote unquote analytics because Some guys can’t really
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handle the numbers of it but need the
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information.
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But I I think about that. And a
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lot of times maybe you’ll hear me during
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a broadcast
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thinking ahead. Say, hey,
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if if in this spot, I would go
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with this slider down the way right here.
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Well, I’ve scouted him just like the pitcher
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scouted him. I scout the other teams, tendencies,
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and all that stuff. So ahead of time,
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I I feel like I know what direction
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they should be going in. Now that So
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you watch film as, I mean Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:12.000 –> 00:21:15.000
I watch video breakdown, scouting reports, all that
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fun stuff before games. I nerd out with
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it now, Brad. Like, this is what you
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do in your hotel room? I do. I
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guess they’re on the Brad, and I’m
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digging into video and watching, you know, hitters
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against the left. Do you have, like, the
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iPad that same when the players are watching
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the same I don’t get their good proprietary
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information. I have to dig in and find
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my own. I should really call in some
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favors and get good stuff.
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The broadcast. All the search engine stuff. But,
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no, it it really is. It’s fun. And
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it’s it’s like anything else. Say, I I
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dig in and do this thing because I
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wanna inform the viewer. Yep. And I want
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to be right. Like, there’s a pride in
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I’m not just saying stuff to say stuff,
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but there’s also the humbling nature of baseball’s
00:21:56.000 –> 00:21:59.000
ever changing. Yeah. And somebody’s thought process is
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totally different. I might know from my and
00:22:01.000 –> 00:22:03.000
this goes back to trusting yourself. I might
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know from my research that I did in
00:22:05.000 –> 00:22:06.000
my hotel room in Milwaukee,
00:22:07.000 –> 00:22:09.000
sitting there that o two
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slider down in a way. That is the
00:22:11.000 –> 00:22:14.000
best pitch for Gilliland Thompson. He’ll miss it
00:22:14.000 –> 00:22:16.000
by a mile. I don’t know what the
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guy on the mound feels when he grips
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his tighter. Yeah. There are times where a
00:22:19.000 –> 00:22:21.000
pitch in your hand feels amazing. There are
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times where even if you know in your
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head it’s a right pitch, you grip the
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baseball. I said, this Gilliland then you switch
00:22:26.000 –> 00:22:27.000
it to another grip, you say, this is
00:22:27.000 –> 00:22:29.000
the pitch I want. Let’s go with this
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one. So, like, that’s where, like, the human
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element really plays in the game of base
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one. I love that. Well, and and also
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you don’t know what he did last night.
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You don’t know if he got an argument
00:22:38.000 –> 00:22:41.000
with his spouse, you know, three hours before
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the game. Right? There’s so much emotion So
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for you, how much of it playing you’re
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playing days? How much of it was physical
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versus, you know, emotional or psychological I I
00:22:50.000 –> 00:22:52.000
think it’s a good balance. The the physical
00:22:52.000 –> 00:22:54.000
part of it during the season, at least
00:22:54.000 –> 00:22:57.000
for me, was maintenance. That was you maintain
00:22:57.000 –> 00:22:59.000
the arm care. You maintain all of the
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stuff that you worked hard in the winter
00:23:01.000 –> 00:23:02.000
to grow. Like,
00:23:02.000 –> 00:23:05.000
that was the growing part of it. But
00:23:05.000 –> 00:23:07.000
playing a big league season, a hundred and
00:23:07.000 –> 00:23:08.000
sixty two games in a hundred and eighty
00:23:08.000 –> 00:23:10.000
something days, like, it’s a lot. It is
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a rigorous thing. So that’s where the mental
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part it comes in. And I did this
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at mainly as a bullpen guy. I started
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a bit in my career too, but mainly
00:23:18.000 –> 00:23:20.000
as a bullpen guy, everyday players that have
00:23:20.000 –> 00:23:22.000
to answer the bell every day, That’s a
00:23:22.000 –> 00:23:25.000
different animal. You go over four, like, three
00:23:25.000 –> 00:23:27.000
days in a row Yeah. And still being
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able to put in the work, and that’s
00:23:28.000 –> 00:23:30.000
where having a routine, and and Brett, I
00:23:30.000 –> 00:23:31.000
know you’re huge on routine
00:23:32.000 –> 00:23:34.000
and just having something that you could rely
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on day in and day out. To me,
00:23:36.000 –> 00:23:37.000
that’s the biggest thing. You put in the
00:23:37.000 –> 00:23:40.000
work. You do during the season and the
00:23:40.000 –> 00:23:43.000
off season. You do what you know
00:23:43.000 –> 00:23:45.000
has made you successful in the past. And
00:23:45.000 –> 00:23:47.000
even if you don’t get the results, you
00:23:47.000 –> 00:23:48.000
yourself in the mirror at the end of
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the night and say, hey, I did everything
00:23:50.000 –> 00:23:51.000
that I could. I’m gonna do it again
00:23:51.000 –> 00:23:53.000
tomorrow. So being able to answer the bell
00:23:53.000 –> 00:23:55.000
and being able to be consistent in the
00:23:55.000 –> 00:23:57.000
game of ball. That’s the hardest thing. Yeah.
00:23:57.000 –> 00:23:59.000
Like, it stinks to be the guy that
00:23:59.000 –> 00:24:02.000
is standing there on the mound at wrigley
00:24:02.000 –> 00:24:04.000
as they start playing that go cubs go
00:24:04.000 –> 00:24:06.000
song. You know what I walk you off.
00:24:06.000 –> 00:24:08.000
Oh, yeah. That sucks. That’s a bad feeling.
00:24:09.000 –> 00:24:10.000
You gotta be ready the next day. Sort
00:24:10.000 –> 00:24:12.000
of the next yeah. That next opportunity might
00:24:12.000 –> 00:24:15.000
be there in often times. Managers just like
00:24:15.000 –> 00:24:18.000
a any manager in any business will likely
00:24:18.000 –> 00:24:20.000
put you right back into that situation again
00:24:20.000 –> 00:24:22.000
to see how you react to it. Are
00:24:22.000 –> 00:24:24.000
you ready for? And I always wanted to
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be ready. My ID is kicking in. So
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my I’m bouncing between your playing guys in
00:24:28.000 –> 00:24:29.000
your fave too. Okay. Good.
00:24:30.000 –> 00:24:31.000
I made me think you told me a
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story one time. I thought it was hilarious.
00:24:33.000 –> 00:24:34.000
Your Scott Rolling story. I think you probably
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know where I’m going. There’s a lot of
00:24:36.000 –> 00:24:37.000
Scott Rolling stories and you were fortunate enough
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I think to go to the hall of
00:24:38.000 –> 00:24:40.000
fame thing. I didn’t go to Oh, you
00:24:40.000 –> 00:24:42.000
did. I was working, working the games. But
00:24:42.000 –> 00:24:43.000
I know what you’re talking
00:24:44.000 –> 00:24:46.000
about. Yeah. Well, I let’s be honest. I
00:24:46.000 –> 00:24:48.000
helped Scott get Paul of Fame. All those
00:24:48.000 –> 00:24:50.000
rockets that I gave up down the line
00:24:50.000 –> 00:24:52.000
that he made these high life plays on.
00:24:52.000 –> 00:24:54.000
No. It was an absolute honor to Brett
00:24:54.000 –> 00:24:57.000
teammates with Scott rolling. And when I when
00:24:57.000 –> 00:24:58.000
I got called up to the big leagues,
00:24:58.000 –> 00:25:00.000
it was two thousand five. It was a
00:25:00.000 –> 00:25:01.000
little over a month, I think, end of
00:25:01.000 –> 00:25:03.000
the season. And I still remember
00:25:03.000 –> 00:25:05.000
walking in
00:25:05.000 –> 00:25:07.000
Bush Stadium. And it was, you know, bush
00:25:07.000 –> 00:25:10.000
to older stadium. I remember the doors opening
00:25:10.000 –> 00:25:12.000
like it’s a movie scene Albert Poolholz is
00:25:12.000 –> 00:25:16.000
walking this way. Matt Morris, Scott Rolling, Reggie
00:25:16.000 –> 00:25:19.000
Sanders, like, guys just like legends. Yes.
00:25:20.000 –> 00:25:21.000
I mean, it was it was I was
00:25:21.000 –> 00:25:23.000
like a kid. I was like a little
00:25:23.000 –> 00:25:25.000
literally like a kid. Twenty three years old,
00:25:25.000 –> 00:25:28.000
baby face. They they barely let me in
00:25:28.000 –> 00:25:30.000
the stadium. They had get somebody come in.
00:25:30.000 –> 00:25:31.000
Nobody the hell is this? Yeah. Nobody believe
00:25:31.000 –> 00:25:33.000
that I actually played. They laughed at me.
00:25:33.000 –> 00:25:33.000
But,
00:25:34.000 –> 00:25:36.000
the Scott Rolling story is when I did
00:25:36.000 –> 00:25:39.000
make my major league debut, you. It was
00:25:39.000 –> 00:25:41.000
Mother’s Day two thousand five. And I remember
00:25:41.000 –> 00:25:43.000
jogging in from the bullpen. And I think
00:25:43.000 –> 00:25:45.000
I made the mistake of looking around, even
00:25:45.000 –> 00:25:47.000
though they say you should soak up the
00:25:47.000 –> 00:25:49.000
moment. Sometimes maybe should be laser focused. I
00:25:49.000 –> 00:25:50.000
don’t know. But I I did this one.
00:25:50.000 –> 00:25:53.000
I started looking around. Oh my god. I
00:25:53.000 –> 00:25:53.000
mean,
00:25:55.000 –> 00:25:57.000
and surrounding you too. You know, the the
00:25:57.000 –> 00:25:59.000
difference in the stadium, it was Gilliland it
00:25:59.000 –> 00:26:01.000
was all the way around you. And I
00:26:01.000 –> 00:26:03.000
get in, I throw my warm up pitches,
00:26:04.000 –> 00:26:06.000
last pitch I throw to it was yachty.
00:26:07.000 –> 00:26:08.000
Throw yachty. He throws it down. They throw
00:26:08.000 –> 00:26:10.000
it around the horn. Yeah. And your third
00:26:10.000 –> 00:26:12.000
baseman comes creeping in. He’s getting the last
00:26:12.000 –> 00:26:15.000
guy to receive the ball. Third baseman, obviously,
00:26:15.000 –> 00:26:16.000
the hall of famer Scott rolling.
00:26:17.000 –> 00:26:18.000
He has the ball. He’s holding in his
00:26:18.000 –> 00:26:20.000
hand. He looks at me. He looks around
00:26:20.000 –> 00:26:22.000
like I did earlier.
00:26:22.000 –> 00:26:24.000
He’s like, Hey, your parents make it in
00:26:24.000 –> 00:26:26.000
town? I go, no. They’re not here yet,
00:26:26.000 –> 00:26:27.000
mister Rolling. They’re be here next week. I
00:26:27.000 –> 00:26:29.000
think I I think I missed it rolling
00:26:29.000 –> 00:26:31.000
him. He goes, yeah. A lot of people
00:26:31.000 –> 00:26:33.000
here. Well, good luck. And he flicked his
00:26:33.000 –> 00:26:36.000
face off. It was like, okay. Okay, mister
00:26:36.000 –> 00:26:38.000
Rolling. Sorry. It was as awesome. Good luck,
00:26:38.000 –> 00:26:40.000
kid. Yeah. Have fun. Let’s see what you
00:26:40.000 –> 00:26:41.000
do with it was
00:26:42.000 –> 00:26:42.000
it was
00:26:43.000 –> 00:26:45.000
a really fun experience, obviously, to make a
00:26:45.000 –> 00:26:47.000
majorly debut. So memorable with that. And it’s
00:26:47.000 –> 00:26:48.000
also,
00:26:49.000 –> 00:26:50.000
really nice to know you have a safety
00:26:50.000 –> 00:26:52.000
net like that over at third base where
00:26:52.000 –> 00:26:55.000
anything that you hit that way, you never
00:26:55.000 –> 00:26:56.000
had to look at the left side of
00:26:56.000 –> 00:26:58.000
the field. Yeah. Because Hammer, David, Xstein, was
00:26:58.000 –> 00:26:58.000
gonna pick it
00:26:59.000 –> 00:27:00.000
up, and you were gonna be good to
00:27:00.000 –> 00:27:01.000
go. And on the right side, you got
00:27:01.000 –> 00:27:02.000
pool holes at first. Yeah. You were gonna
00:27:02.000 –> 00:27:05.000
be good to go. Second basement was We
00:27:05.000 –> 00:27:07.000
it bounced around that year. Hey. I had,
00:27:07.000 –> 00:27:09.000
I think I had some, what, belly yard
00:27:09.000 –> 00:27:12.000
late no. The belly yard late no six.
00:27:12.000 –> 00:27:13.000
Gritzelonic
00:27:13.000 –> 00:27:15.000
was there in two thousand and five.
00:27:15.000 –> 00:27:17.000
So bouncing around a little bit on that
00:27:17.000 –> 00:27:18.000
side of the infield. What did what did
00:27:18.000 –> 00:27:20.000
it seem though? At Jim Edmonds in center
00:27:20.000 –> 00:27:22.000
field, like, just hit it. Go ahead and
00:27:22.000 –> 00:27:23.000
hit it. Try it. Just go over to
00:27:23.000 –> 00:27:26.000
anybody. Yeah. Don’t walk anybody. You’d be good.
00:27:26.000 –> 00:27:28.000
So how do you prepare for a game
00:27:28.000 –> 00:27:30.000
now? Like, what’s that like for you. Yeah.
00:27:30.000 –> 00:27:31.000
A lot of it is, like, we were
00:27:31.000 –> 00:27:34.000
talking about before is one of my first
00:27:34.000 –> 00:27:36.000
things that I do is I prepare, like,
00:27:36.000 –> 00:27:38.000
I was pitching against the opposing line. So
00:27:38.000 –> 00:27:40.000
I’ll dig in. I’ll I’ll look at the
00:27:40.000 –> 00:27:40.000
tendencies
00:27:41.000 –> 00:27:42.000
and all of that stuff. I’ll look at
00:27:42.000 –> 00:27:43.000
their last couple of weeks of what they’ve
00:27:43.000 –> 00:27:44.000
done and,
00:27:45.000 –> 00:27:47.000
all the heat zones all all that good
00:27:47.000 –> 00:27:49.000
stuff, then you’re obviously looking at your starters
00:27:49.000 –> 00:27:51.000
arsenal for the day.
00:27:51.000 –> 00:27:54.000
But, I’ll dig into Bullpens who’s been who’s
00:27:54.000 –> 00:27:56.000
throwing a lot late who’s likely gonna be
00:27:56.000 –> 00:27:59.000
down, try to manage my way through games
00:27:59.000 –> 00:28:01.000
like a manager would. Turns out I don’t
00:28:01.000 –> 00:28:03.000
make some of the same moves as other
00:28:03.000 –> 00:28:04.000
managers because I’m not I don’t think as
00:28:04.000 –> 00:28:06.000
fast. As some of these guys do.
00:28:07.000 –> 00:28:09.000
But that’s that’s part of the preparation. Just
00:28:09.000 –> 00:28:12.000
watching. And it’s it’s a lot easier
00:28:12.000 –> 00:28:14.000
doing the games the more you do. So
00:28:15.000 –> 00:28:16.000
the the reps that I got this past
00:28:16.000 –> 00:28:19.000
year, it was it was easier to do
00:28:19.000 –> 00:28:21.000
the job because you’re around these guys every
00:28:21.000 –> 00:28:23.000
day. You’re watching them every day. When you’re
00:28:23.000 –> 00:28:24.000
in and out, it makes it a little
00:28:24.000 –> 00:28:25.000
bit more difficult. You feel like not that
00:28:25.000 –> 00:28:27.000
you’re not watching at home, but it’s different.
00:28:27.000 –> 00:28:28.000
When you get your family running around, you’re
00:28:28.000 –> 00:28:31.000
cooking dinner, and like everybody watching games, you
00:28:31.000 –> 00:28:34.000
miss certain parts of it, but the repetition
00:28:34.000 –> 00:28:36.000
part of it just makes it big. And
00:28:36.000 –> 00:28:38.000
and that’s one of the other things. I’m
00:28:38.000 –> 00:28:40.000
around, I wanna be around the players. They’re
00:28:40.000 –> 00:28:42.000
the story. Like, what you’re it’s not about
00:28:42.000 –> 00:28:43.000
me. It’s not about what I did. It’s
00:28:43.000 –> 00:28:46.000
not about chipping eyes banter and forth, it’s
00:28:46.000 –> 00:28:47.000
about what are these guys doing? What are
00:28:47.000 –> 00:28:49.000
they going through? What are they working on?
00:28:49.000 –> 00:28:51.000
And that is a lot of the preparation
00:28:51.000 –> 00:28:53.000
is in being around these guys and getting
00:28:53.000 –> 00:28:55.000
that information. And I think too, that prep
00:28:55.000 –> 00:28:57.000
shows. And, obviously, you love what you do.
00:28:57.000 –> 00:28:59.000
And I think I know about you the
00:28:59.000 –> 00:29:00.000
same thing. You take lots of notes, you
00:29:00.000 –> 00:29:01.000
prepare.
00:29:01.000 –> 00:29:03.000
That’s important. And that comes across in the
00:29:03.000 –> 00:29:05.000
microphone. Too. Right? But I I talked to
00:29:05.000 –> 00:29:07.000
Chip Carey. He was on the podcast, not
00:29:07.000 –> 00:29:09.000
to keep name dropping podcast guest, but, he
00:29:09.000 –> 00:29:10.000
said you were one of the biggest
00:29:11.000 –> 00:29:13.000
helper. Like, biggest helps for him to embrace
00:29:13.000 –> 00:29:15.000
being in the Saint Louis cardinals. Right? You
00:29:15.000 –> 00:29:16.000
got a new guy. You’re replacing a guy
00:29:16.000 –> 00:29:18.000
that’s twenty four years everybody loved.
00:29:19.000 –> 00:29:20.000
That was tough, but he said that about
00:29:20.000 –> 00:29:22.000
you. So what was that relationship like for
00:29:22.000 –> 00:29:24.000
you and Chip? And then I came into
00:29:24.000 –> 00:29:25.000
the booth with you, at spring training this
00:29:27.000 –> 00:29:28.000
year. It would have been nice to know
00:29:28.000 –> 00:29:30.000
that he’s, like, six six. Oh, he’s enormous.
00:29:30.000 –> 00:29:32.000
I had no idea. He stood up. I’m,
00:29:32.000 –> 00:29:33.000
like, oh, I feel like I’m hanging out
00:29:33.000 –> 00:29:35.000
with Fredberg. Yes, dude. Yeah. Except her. Chip
00:29:35.000 –> 00:29:36.000
talks a lot more. Exactly.
00:29:37.000 –> 00:29:39.000
So what’s that like for you, you guys’
00:29:39.000 –> 00:29:40.000
relationship? Yeah.
00:29:40.000 –> 00:29:43.000
It it was really amazing how quickly
00:29:44.000 –> 00:29:46.000
things click. Like, between him and I, and
00:29:46.000 –> 00:29:48.000
I, hopefully, that’s something that really comes out
00:29:48.000 –> 00:29:49.000
on air,
00:29:50.000 –> 00:29:52.000
really close, really fast. Now had the good
00:29:52.000 –> 00:29:52.000
opportunity
00:29:53.000 –> 00:29:55.000
to meet Chip over the years last couple
00:29:55.000 –> 00:29:56.000
of times. Okay.
00:29:56.000 –> 00:29:58.000
And you know how close I am with
00:29:58.000 –> 00:30:00.000
with Danny Mack, love him to death. And
00:30:00.000 –> 00:30:02.000
Dan was one of my biggest advocates
00:30:02.000 –> 00:30:05.000
of doing more games and helping me and
00:30:05.000 –> 00:30:05.000
really
00:30:06.000 –> 00:30:08.000
really mentored me through through a lot of
00:30:08.000 –> 00:30:09.000
things. And I know that there are gonna
00:30:09.000 –> 00:30:10.000
be a lot of big things come for
00:30:10.000 –> 00:30:12.000
Danny Mac as well, but they made the
00:30:12.000 –> 00:30:14.000
change, and I don’t think that you could
00:30:14.000 –> 00:30:16.000
have picked anybody better than than Chip Carey.
00:30:16.000 –> 00:30:17.000
If you were gonna make that change,
00:30:18.000 –> 00:30:18.000
the personality
00:30:19.000 –> 00:30:22.000
is fantastic, his energy, his love of life.
00:30:22.000 –> 00:30:24.000
And, like, that’s easy to feed off of.
00:30:24.000 –> 00:30:25.000
Right. So when you have,
00:30:25.000 –> 00:30:27.000
couple of guys that have that sort of
00:30:27.000 –> 00:30:30.000
energy. I don’t care if you’re down ten,
00:30:30.000 –> 00:30:31.000
nothing in the first inning.
00:30:32.000 –> 00:30:34.000
You’re a fan. Do you wanna listen to
00:30:34.000 –> 00:30:36.000
a couple of guys just beating a dead
00:30:36.000 –> 00:30:38.000
horse early on and negative and down in
00:30:38.000 –> 00:30:40.000
the dumps? No. Like, at least I don’t.
00:30:40.000 –> 00:30:42.000
I and maybe some some fans do. And
00:30:42.000 –> 00:30:44.000
I do get that I get the pushback
00:30:44.000 –> 00:30:46.000
of you’re too positive. You don’t say anything
00:30:46.000 –> 00:30:49.000
Brad, like, maybe maybe to a certain extent.
00:30:51.000 –> 00:30:53.000
But I’d rather just be happy too instead
00:30:53.000 –> 00:30:55.000
of and again, I’ll talk about the bad
00:30:55.000 –> 00:30:58.000
things that are there. I’ll spin them positive
00:30:58.000 –> 00:31:00.000
somehow or another because I want this to
00:31:00.000 –> 00:31:02.000
be entertaining. I don’t want you to tune
00:31:02.000 –> 00:31:04.000
into a ball game. It’s down. You’re down
00:31:04.000 –> 00:31:06.000
five runs and you just go wanna watch
00:31:06.000 –> 00:31:08.000
jeopardy. Don’t forget that. Yeah. Stay here. Yeah.
00:31:08.000 –> 00:31:10.000
We’ll have some fun. These guys are gonna
00:31:10.000 –> 00:31:12.000
put on a show for you and let’s
00:31:12.000 –> 00:31:14.000
entertain like at the end of the day,
00:31:14.000 –> 00:31:17.000
it’s still an entertainment business. Like I mentioned,
00:31:17.000 –> 00:31:20.000
the players, the coach, that’s your product. That’s
00:31:20.000 –> 00:31:22.000
what we’re watching and that’s what we’re propping
00:31:22.000 –> 00:31:23.000
up. But our job in between all of
00:31:23.000 –> 00:31:26.000
that is keep you engaged. Keep you loving
00:31:26.000 –> 00:31:29.000
the game. Keep you love the cardinals wanting
00:31:29.000 –> 00:31:31.000
to come back, and I wanna build that
00:31:31.000 –> 00:31:34.000
relationship. One of the biggest, like, compliments that
00:31:34.000 –> 00:31:36.000
I can get is when I meet people,
00:31:36.000 –> 00:31:39.000
said, man, I I love listening to you
00:31:39.000 –> 00:31:40.000
guys. I would just love to have a
00:31:40.000 –> 00:31:42.000
beer with you. Like, I wanna build that
00:31:42.000 –> 00:31:44.000
relationship where I’m, like, part of your
00:31:44.000 –> 00:31:46.000
your evening. Well, you’re in everybody’s house. Every
00:31:46.000 –> 00:31:48.000
night is creepy. You hit really creepy. When
00:31:48.000 –> 00:31:50.000
I when I talk to kids, I say,
00:31:50.000 –> 00:31:51.000
Hey, I’m the voice that puts you to
00:31:51.000 –> 00:31:53.000
bed Yeah. Like That’s not real. I mean,
00:31:53.000 –> 00:31:55.000
that’s what Mike Shannon was. Right? It’s it’s
00:31:58.000 –> 00:31:59.000
it’s fun to be part of such a
00:31:59.000 –> 00:32:01.000
a legacy line that. And so that we
00:32:01.000 –> 00:32:03.000
have so many great people that work around
00:32:03.000 –> 00:32:05.000
it. You look at the the radio side
00:32:05.000 –> 00:32:08.000
of of things with John rooney and Ricky
00:32:08.000 –> 00:32:10.000
Horton and Mike Clay warrant. They do such
00:32:10.000 –> 00:32:12.000
a fantastic job.
00:32:12.000 –> 00:32:14.000
Ship is great to work with. Jim Edmonds
00:32:15.000 –> 00:32:16.000
is every time I listen to Jim, I
00:32:16.000 –> 00:32:18.000
learn something about baseball. He’s just got an
00:32:18.000 –> 00:32:19.000
incredible
00:32:19.000 –> 00:32:22.000
baseball mind. The entire crew that works over
00:32:22.000 –> 00:32:25.000
there is is is great. Alraboski has helped
00:32:25.000 –> 00:32:26.000
me out a ton. I’ve got that’s one
00:32:26.000 –> 00:32:29.000
of the biggest things that I’ve been so
00:32:29.000 –> 00:32:32.000
pleased with and just honestly really impressed by
00:32:32.000 –> 00:32:34.000
is how that whole group is in erased
00:32:34.000 –> 00:32:37.000
me. New guy coming in.
00:32:37.000 –> 00:32:39.000
It’s a competitive industry. There’s only so many
00:32:39.000 –> 00:32:41.000
of these jobs. Right? There’s only so many
00:32:41.000 –> 00:32:43.000
reps that are out there. And
00:32:43.000 –> 00:32:45.000
you know, specifically talk about analyst
00:32:45.000 –> 00:32:48.000
guys, Rick Horton and Alraboski have, like, been
00:32:48.000 –> 00:32:51.000
my biggest helpers ever. Yeah. Like, I have
00:32:51.000 –> 00:32:53.000
a question about something, I can call them
00:32:53.000 –> 00:32:55.000
up. They they help me out. Give me
00:32:55.000 –> 00:32:57.000
advice. It’s been Which, how cool is that
00:32:57.000 –> 00:33:00.000
to think about their character I mean, that
00:33:00.000 –> 00:33:02.000
you’re taking games or reps as you say
00:33:02.000 –> 00:33:04.000
away from them. Right? And it’s like, here
00:33:04.000 –> 00:33:05.000
they are still helping you. Do you think
00:33:05.000 –> 00:33:07.000
that’s go ahead. No. I was gonna say,
00:33:07.000 –> 00:33:10.000
I that’s but that’s baseball. Yeah. Like, that
00:33:10.000 –> 00:33:12.000
is that is the mindset or at least
00:33:12.000 –> 00:33:14.000
the mindset of the great ones is
00:33:15.000 –> 00:33:17.000
I am gonna I’m trying to pass this
00:33:17.000 –> 00:33:19.000
along. Trying to pass this along. Yes. I
00:33:19.000 –> 00:33:20.000
wanna do this as long as I can.
00:33:20.000 –> 00:33:22.000
Talking about Friday baseball level. I wanna do
00:33:22.000 –> 00:33:24.000
it at the highest level, and I’m trying
00:33:24.000 –> 00:33:25.000
to to keep my ab ads, keep my
00:33:25.000 –> 00:33:28.000
innings, but I also know that someone helped
00:33:28.000 –> 00:33:30.000
me get here. Yeah. And I wanna help
00:33:30.000 –> 00:33:32.000
this guy get to that spot. And that
00:33:32.000 –> 00:33:33.000
guy is gonna help the next guy. And
00:33:33.000 –> 00:33:35.000
that’s something we’ve been so blessed with in
00:33:35.000 –> 00:33:36.000
the cardinal organization
00:33:37.000 –> 00:33:39.000
is they’ve passed these things down, and you’ve
00:33:39.000 –> 00:33:41.000
passed down what it means to be a
00:33:41.000 –> 00:33:43.000
cardinal, and and what it means to put
00:33:43.000 –> 00:33:45.000
on that jersey, Those things don’t happen if
00:33:45.000 –> 00:33:47.000
you don’t have players helping each other. And
00:33:47.000 –> 00:33:49.000
that’s actually what I was gonna go with.
00:33:49.000 –> 00:33:50.000
Wearing the birds in the bat as a
00:33:50.000 –> 00:33:53.000
player. Now wearing, quote unquote, wearing the birds
00:33:53.000 –> 00:33:54.000
in the bat as an announcer. You can
00:33:54.000 –> 00:33:55.000
work for You can work for a suit.
00:33:55.000 –> 00:33:57.000
That’d be a nice suit. Nice shirt. Yeah.
00:33:57.000 –> 00:33:59.000
We’ll see if there’s dust that made. Somebody
00:33:59.000 –> 00:34:00.000
will be less a custom suit guy. Get
00:34:00.000 –> 00:34:03.000
Brad a suit with custom bats on it.
00:34:04.000 –> 00:34:05.000
What was I saying? The card organization. So,
00:34:05.000 –> 00:34:07.000
obviously, you you don’t know they work for
00:34:07.000 –> 00:34:09.000
the cardinals. I think that’s okay to say
00:34:09.000 –> 00:34:10.000
that. Right? Yeah. You work for the ballies.
00:34:10.000 –> 00:34:12.000
Yeah. You’re employee of ballies. Yeah. But, yeah,
00:34:12.000 –> 00:34:14.000
how much does the cardinal organization
00:34:14.000 –> 00:34:15.000
run
00:34:15.000 –> 00:34:16.000
through
00:34:16.000 –> 00:34:16.000
valleys
00:34:17.000 –> 00:34:18.000
deep into you guys and all that stuff.
00:34:18.000 –> 00:34:19.000
Yeah. I think it’s a partnership.
00:34:20.000 –> 00:34:20.000
Obviously,
00:34:21.000 –> 00:34:22.000
and I I don’t even know what the
00:34:22.000 –> 00:34:24.000
logistics of are, but I believe that the,
00:34:24.000 –> 00:34:26.000
you know, Carlos are are in on ownership
00:34:26.000 –> 00:34:29.000
of that too. Like, they they bought into
00:34:29.000 –> 00:34:29.000
that.
00:34:30.000 –> 00:34:32.000
But I I feel like they’re they work
00:34:32.000 –> 00:34:34.000
together. Like, that’s kinda how the crew is.
00:34:34.000 –> 00:34:36.000
I know that the cardinals have a say
00:34:36.000 –> 00:34:38.000
of who is on their airwaves and who’s
00:34:38.000 –> 00:34:39.000
talking about their game
00:34:40.000 –> 00:34:40.000
and,
00:34:41.000 –> 00:34:43.000
I’m I’m so happy that I’ve been able
00:34:43.000 –> 00:34:45.000
to carve out a niche and and have
00:34:45.000 –> 00:34:47.000
the relationships that I have
00:34:47.000 –> 00:34:49.000
with, you know, with people within the organization
00:34:49.000 –> 00:34:51.000
not, like, just like I did as a
00:34:51.000 –> 00:34:53.000
player. Every time that I’m doing a game
00:34:53.000 –> 00:34:54.000
now as a broadcaster,
00:34:54.000 –> 00:34:56.000
I’m trying to keep my job. Like, I’m
00:34:56.000 –> 00:34:58.000
trying I’m trying to get Like, I wanna
00:34:58.000 –> 00:35:00.000
get better every day, and I I want
00:35:00.000 –> 00:35:03.000
to learn more and more. And I also
00:35:03.000 –> 00:35:05.000
realize something’s always coming for this job. Right?
00:35:05.000 –> 00:35:07.000
So I wanna put my best foot forward
00:35:07.000 –> 00:35:10.000
every single day and just continue to try
00:35:10.000 –> 00:35:12.000
to stay in everybody’s good graces and
00:35:12.000 –> 00:35:14.000
and do his of a job as I
00:35:14.000 –> 00:35:16.000
can. What’s been the most memorable,
00:35:17.000 –> 00:35:19.000
baseball moment for you as an announcer?
00:35:19.000 –> 00:35:21.000
Man, that’s hard. There there have been so
00:35:21.000 –> 00:35:23.000
many good ones, especially in the last couple
00:35:23.000 –> 00:35:24.000
years. I mean, you you had
00:35:25.000 –> 00:35:26.000
being able to be on the call two
00:35:26.000 –> 00:35:27.000
years ago
00:35:28.000 –> 00:35:30.000
as we knew the future
00:35:30.000 –> 00:35:31.000
of Yadi
00:35:32.000 –> 00:35:34.000
and Albert, you knew that they were gonna
00:35:34.000 –> 00:35:36.000
retire. Didn’t know at the time, the future
00:35:36.000 –> 00:35:38.000
of Adam Wayne. Right? But those three walking
00:35:38.000 –> 00:35:39.000
off the mound together.
00:35:40.000 –> 00:35:43.000
I mean, it’s just an unreal site, a
00:35:43.000 –> 00:35:46.000
picture that you’ll see forever in cardinal history.
00:35:46.000 –> 00:35:48.000
That is a a big one.
00:35:48.000 –> 00:35:50.000
Albert Puhl’s hitting number
00:35:51.000 –> 00:35:51.000
07:03,
00:35:51.000 –> 00:35:54.000
like the final one Yeah. Was a big
00:35:54.000 –> 00:35:56.000
one too in Pittsburgh. Now I would say
00:35:56.000 –> 00:35:58.000
six ninety nine and seven hundred. Mhmm. But,
00:35:58.000 –> 00:36:00.000
you know, I literally thought about you that
00:36:00.000 –> 00:36:01.000
night. We were in my basement. We had
00:36:01.000 –> 00:36:04.000
people over on Apple TV and my god
00:36:04.000 –> 00:36:06.000
sucks. Really Albert, both of them. Couldn’t take
00:36:06.000 –> 00:36:07.000
the side off.
00:36:08.000 –> 00:36:10.000
That hurt. So that’s that’s one. And maybe
00:36:10.000 –> 00:36:12.000
I’ll change this story. It’s like one of
00:36:12.000 –> 00:36:14.000
those fishing stories, you know. Like, I was
00:36:14.000 –> 00:36:16.000
there. Yes. Because I was in LA. We
00:36:16.000 –> 00:36:18.000
were just saying because you did it the
00:36:18.000 –> 00:36:19.000
night before. The night before, did it the
00:36:19.000 –> 00:36:22.000
night after, Brett. But, yeah, I was watching
00:36:22.000 –> 00:36:25.000
that one on my iPad in my hotel
00:36:25.000 –> 00:36:26.000
room. And they asked me to say, hey,
00:36:26.000 –> 00:36:28.000
you do you wanna take it for the
00:36:28.000 –> 00:36:29.000
game? I said, no. I’m I’m going to
00:36:29.000 –> 00:36:30.000
games every day. I don’t need to take
00:36:30.000 –> 00:36:32.000
it for game? What’s he gonna end it?
00:36:32.000 –> 00:36:34.000
It possibly happened tonight. In a couple years
00:36:34.000 –> 00:36:35.000
though, that story will be like, yeah, and
00:36:35.000 –> 00:36:37.000
he hit the home run. And then do
00:36:37.000 –> 00:36:38.000
you remember him going back and giving the
00:36:38.000 –> 00:36:40.000
high five that was me? I was there.
00:36:40.000 –> 00:36:42.000
It wasn’t Beltrey. It was right. Right.
00:36:42.000 –> 00:36:45.000
That was funny. Speaking to Beltran, you said
00:36:45.000 –> 00:36:46.000
Beltrey, I think you said. Yeah. I think
00:36:46.000 –> 00:36:49.000
you said. Beltran. Yeah. Beltran. What was that?
00:36:49.000 –> 00:36:51.000
Moment like I mean, he was a cardinal
00:36:51.000 –> 00:36:54.000
killer. Right. Oh, yeah. And two thousand six,
00:36:54.000 –> 00:36:55.000
NLCS,
00:36:55.000 –> 00:36:57.000
two men on. I think cardinals rep, what,
00:36:57.000 –> 00:36:58.000
three to one
00:36:58.000 –> 00:37:00.000
bottom of the ninth, tight.
00:37:00.000 –> 00:37:02.000
I mean, I remember, like, his yesterday watching
00:37:02.000 –> 00:37:04.000
that game. What was that like, obviously, being
00:37:04.000 –> 00:37:06.000
there and having a uniform on? The,
00:37:06.000 –> 00:37:10.000
the NLCS and specifically that game seven is
00:37:10.000 –> 00:37:11.000
far more memorable
00:37:12.000 –> 00:37:13.000
than the world series to me. And I
00:37:13.000 –> 00:37:15.000
think that for anybody that was in it,
00:37:16.000 –> 00:37:18.000
and doing it. Like, that was you go
00:37:18.000 –> 00:37:20.000
to a game seven. You have so many
00:37:20.000 –> 00:37:22.000
ups and downs throughout it. You still remember
00:37:22.000 –> 00:37:25.000
the Andy Chavez robbed home run of Scott
00:37:25.000 –> 00:37:28.000
Gilliland we’re, like, where did that come from?
00:37:28.000 –> 00:37:30.000
Like, Tyler Johnson left handed reliever and myself
00:37:30.000 –> 00:37:32.000
were right behind Like, you see you see
00:37:32.000 –> 00:37:34.000
Shaba’s arm? We’re right behind that wall on
00:37:34.000 –> 00:37:36.000
the bowl family. No. No. I was gonna
00:37:36.000 –> 00:37:38.000
catch that. Yes. Yes.
00:37:39.000 –> 00:37:42.000
But that, that place was so loud. Shea
00:37:42.000 –> 00:37:43.000
was loud. Have have you ever been to
00:37:43.000 –> 00:37:45.000
Shea State, anyway? Had you been there? No.
00:37:45.000 –> 00:37:48.000
So it was crazy loud. Old school speakers
00:37:48.000 –> 00:37:50.000
in center field, Apple would pop up. I’m
00:37:50.000 –> 00:37:52.000
telling you the place would sway. Like, you
00:37:52.000 –> 00:37:54.000
could see it sway. It was just an
00:37:54.000 –> 00:37:55.000
energy there was New York. Like, it was
00:37:55.000 –> 00:37:56.000
New York, passionate.
00:37:57.000 –> 00:37:59.000
Sports fans in the biggest Thompson.
00:38:00.000 –> 00:38:02.000
And then Adam Wayne Wright, the rookie
00:38:02.000 –> 00:38:04.000
comes in and does that. And I know
00:38:04.000 –> 00:38:06.000
you’ve heard Adam talk about him and yachty
00:38:06.000 –> 00:38:08.000
going through that. He starts him out with
00:38:08.000 –> 00:38:09.000
a change up, which is a pitch that
00:38:09.000 –> 00:38:12.000
he never throws. Like, it just it just
00:38:12.000 –> 00:38:14.000
had the body’s like, hey, this is the
00:38:14.000 –> 00:38:17.000
is the pitch. Do it. And then set
00:38:17.000 –> 00:38:19.000
everything else up. Let’s change this whole career
00:38:19.000 –> 00:38:20.000
probably. Right? I mean, you think one, the
00:38:20.000 –> 00:38:23.000
confidence, but number two, the the confidence to
00:38:23.000 –> 00:38:24.000
listen to a guy
00:38:24.000 –> 00:38:26.000
tells me in this moment to throw a
00:38:26.000 –> 00:38:28.000
pitch. It’s not my best pitch that I’m
00:38:28.000 –> 00:38:30.000
not the best at. Right? Yeah. Throw it.
00:38:30.000 –> 00:38:32.000
Trust it. He did it in then, holy
00:38:32.000 –> 00:38:35.000
crap. Yeah. Well, that’s and and remember too,
00:38:35.000 –> 00:38:37.000
that was, I mean, what, two years into
00:38:37.000 –> 00:38:40.000
Yati’s career. Wasn’t like he was six. He
00:38:40.000 –> 00:38:41.000
came up in o he wasn’t the cagey
00:38:41.000 –> 00:38:43.000
vet. Yeah. O four. O fours is for
00:38:43.000 –> 00:38:45.000
sure. Yeah. Well, he wasn’t like the cagey
00:38:45.000 –> 00:38:48.000
veteran at the time. But you already knew
00:38:48.000 –> 00:38:50.000
you knew what he was and you knew
00:38:50.000 –> 00:38:53.000
the preparation that was there. And Adam had
00:38:53.000 –> 00:38:54.000
that trust in him and also had the
00:38:54.000 –> 00:38:57.000
trust in his ability. If that’s what you
00:38:57.000 –> 00:38:59.000
believe is gonna be right, let’s do it.
00:38:59.000 –> 00:39:00.000
And I’m sure that if he felt it
00:39:00.000 –> 00:39:02.000
in his hand and he was like, this
00:39:02.000 –> 00:39:03.000
isn’t it, he wouldn’t Yeah. You know, but
00:39:03.000 –> 00:39:05.000
he he trusted in in yachty. He made
00:39:05.000 –> 00:39:07.000
the pitch, then obviously made the pitch with
00:39:07.000 –> 00:39:10.000
the biggest breaking ball of his career. Michael
00:39:10.000 –> 00:39:12.000
Charlie was probably sure was. But I I
00:39:12.000 –> 00:39:14.000
think you bring up a great point. Like,
00:39:14.000 –> 00:39:15.000
what if what if that went a different
00:39:15.000 –> 00:39:17.000
direction? Right? What what if it
00:39:17.000 –> 00:39:19.000
Beltran hit it out of the ballpark? Now
00:39:19.000 –> 00:39:22.000
I still believe that Adam Wayne, right, a
00:39:22.000 –> 00:39:24.000
man of conviction, a man of the he
00:39:24.000 –> 00:39:26.000
he’s not gonna he’s been knocked down plenty
00:39:26.000 –> 00:39:27.000
in his career. I still believe that he
00:39:27.000 –> 00:39:30.000
would have carved himself out quite a career.
00:39:30.000 –> 00:39:32.000
But what a way to start it? Or
00:39:32.000 –> 00:39:35.000
you you do that, and then you transition
00:39:35.000 –> 00:39:37.000
into starting cardinal hall You’ll transit one. You
00:39:37.000 –> 00:39:39.000
weren’t even to close busy was to close.
00:39:39.000 –> 00:39:40.000
Yes. Right. Well, he was, and then is
00:39:40.000 –> 00:39:41.000
he got hurt and then he had to
00:39:41.000 –> 00:39:43.000
say over. Yeah. So he had to learn
00:39:43.000 –> 00:39:44.000
that on the fly. And again, you wanna
00:39:44.000 –> 00:39:46.000
talk about mentorship You wanna talk about a
00:39:46.000 –> 00:39:48.000
guy that was going through probably one of
00:39:48.000 –> 00:39:50.000
the lower times, injured,
00:39:51.000 –> 00:39:53.000
hip, everything was was banged up for for
00:39:53.000 –> 00:39:55.000
Jason Iseringhousen who is, he, one of my
00:39:55.000 –> 00:39:56.000
biggest mentors
00:39:57.000 –> 00:39:58.000
as a player and one of the best
00:39:58.000 –> 00:40:02.000
people I’ve been around, but he he helps
00:40:02.000 –> 00:40:04.000
mentor Adam Wayne, right, through that? What it’s
00:40:04.000 –> 00:40:06.000
like at the back end of games? What
00:40:06.000 –> 00:40:08.000
to expect? The highs, the lows? Like, all
00:40:08.000 –> 00:40:11.000
of that. That’s a hard thing to learn.
00:40:11.000 –> 00:40:14.000
When you are you’re like a middle relief
00:40:14.000 –> 00:40:16.000
guy, you have a safety net. Your team
00:40:16.000 –> 00:40:18.000
could come back and, you know, you gave
00:40:18.000 –> 00:40:19.000
up three, but who cares? You guys are
00:40:19.000 –> 00:40:21.000
like, well, we won. Like, do that as
00:40:21.000 –> 00:40:22.000
a closer,
00:40:22.000 –> 00:40:25.000
you lose. Yeah. And then you’re you’re the
00:40:25.000 –> 00:40:27.000
goat and not the good one. Yeah. And
00:40:27.000 –> 00:40:28.000
then you gotta come back the next day
00:40:28.000 –> 00:40:30.000
and you have to have the right mindset.
00:40:30.000 –> 00:40:31.000
I think that was a learned mindset. It’s
00:40:31.000 –> 00:40:34.000
all So Adam Wainwright just has that something
00:40:34.000 –> 00:40:36.000
special. He’s just just get the x built
00:40:36.000 –> 00:40:37.000
that way. Of course.
00:40:37.000 –> 00:40:40.000
But having that mentor early, I think helped
00:40:40.000 –> 00:40:42.000
him as well. Yeah. So talk about the
00:40:42.000 –> 00:40:43.000
adrenaline of that. You know, I’m one of
00:40:43.000 –> 00:40:45.000
these guys that I watch sports, and man,
00:40:45.000 –> 00:40:47.000
I feel the moment. Like, you know, I
00:40:47.000 –> 00:40:50.000
just would dream about walking into that stadium
00:40:50.000 –> 00:40:52.000
or walking out of that cord or making
00:40:52.000 –> 00:40:53.000
that putt. Whatever it is,
00:40:53.000 –> 00:40:56.000
I feel the adrenaline at a much different
00:40:56.000 –> 00:40:58.000
level, obviously. But you can feel it. So
00:40:58.000 –> 00:41:00.000
for you, having the adrenaline, man, you know,
00:41:01.000 –> 00:41:02.000
phone rings, they call it up. Brad, you’re
00:41:02.000 –> 00:41:04.000
coming in. Game’s online. Right? You’re coming in.
00:41:04.000 –> 00:41:06.000
You’re walking out of that fence. You gotta
00:41:06.000 –> 00:41:08.000
run to the bull or run to the
00:41:08.000 –> 00:41:11.000
pitcher’s mound. Like, that adrenaline explained that adrenaline
00:41:11.000 –> 00:41:13.000
Gilliland how hard was that to know that
00:41:13.000 –> 00:41:15.000
you I mean, you’ll probably never feel that
00:41:15.000 –> 00:41:19.000
adrenaline again. Yeah. Look, aside from the camaraderie.
00:41:19.000 –> 00:41:21.000
And thankfully, in the job that I have,
00:41:21.000 –> 00:41:24.000
I get that. I still get that around
00:41:24.000 –> 00:41:26.000
the ballpark, hanging out with the guys, like,
00:41:26.000 –> 00:41:29.000
are the broadcast crews, our own team. We
00:41:29.000 –> 00:41:31.000
all hang out, everybody on the road, go
00:41:31.000 –> 00:41:32.000
out. And so it’s so I get the
00:41:32.000 –> 00:41:34.000
camaraderie part of it still.
00:41:34.000 –> 00:41:36.000
The adrenaline aspect,
00:41:36.000 –> 00:41:38.000
I have not been able to find that
00:41:38.000 –> 00:41:39.000
in life. Like, I don’t know what that
00:41:39.000 –> 00:41:42.000
is. And I you brought up the perfect
00:41:42.000 –> 00:41:43.000
example of the phone ring.
00:41:44.000 –> 00:41:47.000
Like, pavlov’s dog. It’s like, is it me?
00:41:47.000 –> 00:41:48.000
Is it me? Is it me? And then
00:41:48.000 –> 00:41:51.000
it’s you. It’s like, boom, get up, start
00:41:51.000 –> 00:41:54.000
throwing. It’s such a it’s such an amazing
00:41:54.000 –> 00:41:57.000
feeling. It’s such an exciting feeling, and everything
00:41:57.000 –> 00:41:59.000
just starts beating a little faster. Right? But
00:41:59.000 –> 00:42:02.000
it’s it’s still controlled. Yep. But it is
00:42:02.000 –> 00:42:04.000
energetic. It’s exciting.
00:42:04.000 –> 00:42:06.000
And I like there are things in my
00:42:06.000 –> 00:42:08.000
life that excited about. There are plenty of
00:42:08.000 –> 00:42:10.000
things in my life that I’m passionate about.
00:42:10.000 –> 00:42:11.000
There are not too many things that I
00:42:11.000 –> 00:42:13.000
have found. And maybe that’s your next big
00:42:13.000 –> 00:42:15.000
idea, Brett. You find that find that adrenaline
00:42:15.000 –> 00:42:15.000
factor.
00:42:16.000 –> 00:42:18.000
Get that going, but I do miss that.
00:42:18.000 –> 00:42:21.000
I I miss that that energy of going
00:42:21.000 –> 00:42:24.000
in. And then that feeling, and and honestly
00:42:24.000 –> 00:42:27.000
even even the bad day, Right? It’s it’s
00:42:27.000 –> 00:42:28.000
a different feeling. Like, you went out there
00:42:28.000 –> 00:42:31.000
and you gave everything that you had in
00:42:31.000 –> 00:42:32.000
what we all know is a game. Right?
00:42:32.000 –> 00:42:34.000
There are bigger things that are going on
00:42:34.000 –> 00:42:36.000
in the world. But in your world right
00:42:36.000 –> 00:42:38.000
there, just like anybody that is going to
00:42:38.000 –> 00:42:39.000
their job, that’s your world. That’s a big
00:42:39.000 –> 00:42:41.000
deal. Others might not look at it as
00:42:41.000 –> 00:42:42.000
a big deal, but to you is and
00:42:42.000 –> 00:42:45.000
it should be when you put everything out
00:42:45.000 –> 00:42:46.000
there on the line and you just let
00:42:46.000 –> 00:42:48.000
the chips fall where they make, like, that’s
00:42:48.000 –> 00:42:50.000
a freeing feeling Yeah. When you have that.
00:42:50.000 –> 00:42:51.000
That’s it’s it’s incredible.
00:42:53.000 –> 00:42:54.000
Let’s see what I’m trying to think the
00:42:54.000 –> 00:42:56.000
next question I wanted to ask here. So
00:42:56.000 –> 00:42:57.000
so how did you,
00:42:58.000 –> 00:42:59.000
when you talked about the camaraderie,
00:43:00.000 –> 00:43:01.000
how do you how do you stay a
00:43:01.000 –> 00:43:03.000
student in the game with what you’re doing
00:43:03.000 –> 00:43:04.000
now? And you’ve kinda touched on that, I
00:43:04.000 –> 00:43:06.000
guess. Yeah. Yes. Continue watching stuff. Yeah. You
00:43:06.000 –> 00:43:08.000
have to you have to keep watching, and
00:43:08.000 –> 00:43:11.000
you to be willing to change too. Yeah.
00:43:11.000 –> 00:43:12.000
You know, I mentioned earlier some of the
00:43:12.000 –> 00:43:15.000
the data and the analytics, and I’m sure
00:43:15.000 –> 00:43:17.000
that a lot of baseball fans, and especially
00:43:17.000 –> 00:43:19.000
in St. Louis, you you’ve got an old
00:43:19.000 –> 00:43:21.000
school baseball fan. Right. You have got, you
00:43:21.000 –> 00:43:22.000
know, Bob Gibson,
00:43:22.000 –> 00:43:26.000
Lou Brock, Ozzie, Smith. Like, yes, legends. And,
00:43:26.000 –> 00:43:28.000
like, that’s the style of baseball that you
00:43:28.000 –> 00:43:31.000
like is throwback in old school. Things have
00:43:31.000 –> 00:43:34.000
changed. Okay? It’s It’s three true outcomes. It’s
00:43:34.000 –> 00:43:37.000
home run, strikeouts, and walks. It’s missing bats
00:43:37.000 –> 00:43:39.000
as a pitcher. It is velocity.
00:43:39.000 –> 00:43:42.000
It’s spin rates. It’s exit velocity. City. It’s
00:43:42.000 –> 00:43:45.000
all of these different things. And I can’t
00:43:45.000 –> 00:43:48.000
be again, talk about a job is to
00:43:48.000 –> 00:43:50.000
grow the game. Mhmm. I can’t sit there
00:43:50.000 –> 00:43:52.000
and be like, that doesn’t anything. That doesn’t
00:43:52.000 –> 00:43:53.000
matter. It does matter. Like, and it does
00:43:53.000 –> 00:43:56.000
mean something. These evaluators are evaluating off of
00:43:56.000 –> 00:43:59.000
some of these things. Scouts are scouting off
00:43:59.000 –> 00:44:01.000
of some of these things. Guys are getting
00:44:01.000 –> 00:44:03.000
paid off of a lot of these different
00:44:03.000 –> 00:44:04.000
power numbers that are out there. It means
00:44:04.000 –> 00:44:07.000
something to a lot of these different So
00:44:07.000 –> 00:44:08.000
one of my biggest things that I try
00:44:08.000 –> 00:44:09.000
to do is,
00:44:10.000 –> 00:44:11.000
even if it’s something I’ll read on the
00:44:11.000 –> 00:44:13.000
surface first or or see a new stat
00:44:13.000 –> 00:44:16.000
come out, like, that seems stupid. Let me
00:44:16.000 –> 00:44:18.000
dig into it at least. Like, let me
00:44:18.000 –> 00:44:20.000
let me open my exactly. Let me continue
00:44:20.000 –> 00:44:22.000
to learn about this. Or let me figure
00:44:22.000 –> 00:44:25.000
out a way where I can feed it
00:44:25.000 –> 00:44:27.000
to a viewer or somebody just passing by
00:44:27.000 –> 00:44:28.000
and say, hey, you know, what does this
00:44:28.000 –> 00:44:31.000
mean? Say, let me make it make sense
00:44:31.000 –> 00:44:32.000
to them and make it matter to them.
00:44:32.000 –> 00:44:35.000
Yeah. Where it matters to people in, like,
00:44:35.000 –> 00:44:36.000
the analytics community. But,
00:44:37.000 –> 00:44:38.000
I try to keep up as much as
00:44:38.000 –> 00:44:40.000
I can with all of the other teams
00:44:40.000 –> 00:44:42.000
in baseball. I get home. I’m watching MLB
00:44:42.000 –> 00:44:44.000
network, like every other baseball fan, because a
00:44:44.000 –> 00:44:47.000
lot like playing. And he’s, like, turn that
00:44:47.000 –> 00:44:48.000
crap off. Oh, yeah. For sure. I’m I
00:44:48.000 –> 00:44:49.000
have to go in the basement. I go
00:44:49.000 –> 00:44:50.000
home. I go the basement.
00:44:51.000 –> 00:44:53.000
But a lot like playing, I can’t just
00:44:53.000 –> 00:44:54.000
go home after a game. I don’t care
00:44:54.000 –> 00:44:56.000
how long the game was. I can’t just
00:44:56.000 –> 00:44:58.000
go to sleep. There has to be that
00:44:58.000 –> 00:44:58.000
unwinding
00:44:58.000 –> 00:45:01.000
period because that’s as close as I get
00:45:01.000 –> 00:45:02.000
to the adrenaline now that we were just
00:45:02.000 –> 00:45:05.000
talking about that in my ear, right, in
00:45:05.000 –> 00:45:07.000
the headset, three, two, one,
00:45:08.000 –> 00:45:10.000
live. And, like, boom. Okay. Here we go.
00:45:10.000 –> 00:45:12.000
Like, this is real. Brad don’t say any
00:45:12.000 –> 00:45:12.000
bad words.
00:45:14.000 –> 00:45:15.000
This is the same about a bad tension.
00:45:15.000 –> 00:45:17.000
Yes. That’s I don’t wanna get used to
00:45:17.000 –> 00:45:19.000
it here though. Right. Exactly. And then and
00:45:19.000 –> 00:45:21.000
then do it, do it a little bit.
00:45:21.000 –> 00:45:23.000
Well, Brett said. Yeah.
00:45:25.000 –> 00:45:26.000
Talk about the pitch clock. Did that change
00:45:26.000 –> 00:45:28.000
the game this year? It did. It it
00:45:28.000 –> 00:45:30.000
it did and
00:45:30.000 –> 00:45:33.000
being an old school base. Spall person. I
00:45:33.000 –> 00:45:35.000
hated the idea. Yeah. Hate the concept of
00:45:35.000 –> 00:45:38.000
it. I liked being able to be that
00:45:38.000 –> 00:45:40.000
high horse guy, Brett, where it’s like, well,
00:45:40.000 –> 00:45:42.000
we’re the only game that doesn’t have o’clock.
00:45:42.000 –> 00:45:44.000
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We’re not. Now we’re not.
00:45:44.000 –> 00:45:45.000
But
00:45:45.000 –> 00:45:46.000
from
00:45:46.000 –> 00:45:48.000
and this isn’t just a broadcaster
00:45:48.000 –> 00:45:50.000
standpoint. Look, I get a half hour backup
00:45:50.000 –> 00:45:52.000
night. It seems like. True.
00:45:52.000 –> 00:45:54.000
So that part of it is nice, but
00:45:54.000 –> 00:45:56.000
I really do believe the game wasn’t meant
00:45:56.000 –> 00:45:59.000
to take three hours every Right. We we’ve
00:45:59.000 –> 00:46:01.000
slowed things down, and a lot of it
00:46:01.000 –> 00:46:03.000
has been the information slows it down. Like,
00:46:03.000 –> 00:46:06.000
a lot of that takes time and the
00:46:06.000 –> 00:46:06.000
evolution
00:46:07.000 –> 00:46:09.000
of the utilization of bowl pens where it’s
00:46:09.000 –> 00:46:12.000
match ups in the six, seven, eight, nine.
00:46:12.000 –> 00:46:15.000
We’ll do it again. Exactly. And, obviously, that
00:46:15.000 –> 00:46:16.000
rule changed too at least with the three
00:46:16.000 –> 00:46:18.000
better minimum a couple of years ago. So
00:46:18.000 –> 00:46:20.000
that sped things up. But I really don’t.
00:46:20.000 –> 00:46:22.000
There’s no reason
00:46:22.000 –> 00:46:25.000
to be out there and hold the ball
00:46:25.000 –> 00:46:27.000
for thirty seconds. Yeah. Like, there’s not. Now
00:46:27.000 –> 00:46:30.000
I don’t like the limited takeoffs. I don’t
00:46:30.000 –> 00:46:31.000
I don’t enjoy that. I think that you
00:46:31.000 –> 00:46:33.000
should be able to do that ten times
00:46:33.000 –> 00:46:34.000
in a row if you want to. I
00:46:34.000 –> 00:46:36.000
also believe that the pitcher should be granted
00:46:36.000 –> 00:46:38.000
a time out just like they or his
00:46:38.000 –> 00:46:40.000
grand time out. I feel like that should
00:46:40.000 –> 00:46:41.000
be a thing. Great point. It just doesn’t
00:46:41.000 –> 00:46:44.000
make sense. Right? She writes that in being,
00:46:44.000 –> 00:46:45.000
I I put it in Rob Manford’s,
00:46:46.000 –> 00:46:48.000
little his box out there, the suggestion box.
00:46:48.000 –> 00:46:50.000
We’ll see we’ll see how it goes. I
00:46:50.000 –> 00:46:51.000
think a lot of pitchers have been beating
00:46:51.000 –> 00:46:53.000
that drum, but that I think that’s something
00:46:53.000 –> 00:46:54.000
that might end up happening.
00:46:54.000 –> 00:46:56.000
At some point, but I do think that
00:46:56.000 –> 00:46:57.000
the pitch clock,
00:46:57.000 –> 00:46:59.000
it did a good job of speeding things
00:46:59.000 –> 00:47:01.000
up. And I really do believe, and I
00:47:01.000 –> 00:47:04.000
don’t know if there’s actually hard data to
00:47:04.000 –> 00:47:05.000
back this up. I’m sure there is because
00:47:05.000 –> 00:47:07.000
there’s data for everything now.
00:47:07.000 –> 00:47:07.000
It’s
00:47:08.000 –> 00:47:11.000
I think that it has affected the hitters
00:47:11.000 –> 00:47:14.000
as much if not more than the pitchers.
00:47:14.000 –> 00:47:16.000
Do you have a lot of hitters that
00:47:16.000 –> 00:47:18.000
take their sweet time getting into the box
00:47:19.000 –> 00:47:22.000
redoing their batting glove. Fifty times.
00:47:22.000 –> 00:47:23.000
Skip Schumacher,
00:47:24.000 –> 00:47:26.000
manager of the year. Congratulations
00:47:26.000 –> 00:47:28.000
to help. But they’re guys and skip will
00:47:28.000 –> 00:47:29.000
do it Alright? Skip being in the box
00:47:29.000 –> 00:47:31.000
too. If there’s some guys that would take
00:47:31.000 –> 00:47:33.000
such a long time doing stuff like that,
00:47:33.000 –> 00:47:35.000
there’s no need for it. Get the box,
00:47:35.000 –> 00:47:36.000
get ready to hit. Get on the mound,
00:47:36.000 –> 00:47:37.000
get ready to throw
00:47:37.000 –> 00:47:40.000
Now, the the only one that I’m, again,
00:47:40.000 –> 00:47:42.000
I’m not sure I love is the pick
00:47:42.000 –> 00:47:44.000
offs. And I think that one of the
00:47:44.000 –> 00:47:45.000
biggest weapons
00:47:46.000 –> 00:47:48.000
that a pitcher has again, I understand why
00:47:48.000 –> 00:47:49.000
baseball is doing it. They want to speed
00:47:49.000 –> 00:47:51.000
up the game, but they also wanna add
00:47:51.000 –> 00:47:53.000
more excitement stolen bases are exciting. One of
00:47:53.000 –> 00:47:55.000
the biggest weapons that you have though with
00:47:55.000 –> 00:47:57.000
runners on base is your ability to hold
00:47:57.000 –> 00:47:58.000
the baseball.
00:47:58.000 –> 00:48:00.000
So if you are there and you got
00:48:00.000 –> 00:48:01.000
a burner at first base, if you can
00:48:01.000 –> 00:48:04.000
just hold the Gilliland a few seconds feels
00:48:04.000 –> 00:48:05.000
like an attorney for a base stealer that’s
00:48:05.000 –> 00:48:07.000
ready to move. Back and slow them down.
00:48:07.000 –> 00:48:09.000
Yeah. Now you have a countdown.
00:48:09.000 –> 00:48:11.000
So that means that the next time you
00:48:11.000 –> 00:48:12.000
go quicker. So you keep getting with your
00:48:12.000 –> 00:48:14.000
kid for sure. Yeah. For sure. So that
00:48:14.000 –> 00:48:17.000
changes a little bit, but you still have
00:48:17.000 –> 00:48:19.000
twenty seconds. Now they’re talking about bringing that
00:48:19.000 –> 00:48:22.000
down to eighteen with with runners on. You
00:48:22.000 –> 00:48:24.000
still have the ability to do it. You
00:48:24.000 –> 00:48:25.000
just have to mix it up a little
00:48:25.000 –> 00:48:27.000
more. You know what? Drives me nuts. I
00:48:27.000 –> 00:48:28.000
don’t know why it drives me. I’m like,
00:48:28.000 –> 00:48:30.000
the old man, Brett, getting mad at the
00:48:30.000 –> 00:48:31.000
shit baseball players.
00:48:31.000 –> 00:48:32.000
When they pull, you know, they get their
00:48:32.000 –> 00:48:34.000
back pocket and they’re pulling Carda. I mean,
00:48:34.000 –> 00:48:36.000
I understand what they’re doing, but I’m like,
00:48:36.000 –> 00:48:38.000
at what point do we not let’s just
00:48:38.000 –> 00:48:40.000
work. We’re professional athlete, and we gotta put
00:48:40.000 –> 00:48:42.000
some work in, and it’s not some guy
00:48:42.000 –> 00:48:43.000
hitting me car and say, okay. When this
00:48:43.000 –> 00:48:45.000
guy’s up, then you’re gonna stand. He like,
00:48:45.000 –> 00:48:47.000
like, I I just missed the gut feeling
00:48:47.000 –> 00:48:49.000
and doing what you think she should do.
00:48:49.000 –> 00:48:51.000
That’s part of the game. Yeah. And,
00:48:51.000 –> 00:48:53.000
I I agree with that. I think there
00:48:53.000 –> 00:48:55.000
are a few things. I think that we
00:48:55.000 –> 00:48:57.000
get so caught up and he’s supposed to
00:48:57.000 –> 00:48:59.000
do this. That when he does the other
00:48:59.000 –> 00:49:02.000
thing, we’re not ready. Yeah. So letting those
00:49:02.000 –> 00:49:02.000
instincts,
00:49:03.000 –> 00:49:05.000
letting that athleticism take over I think is
00:49:05.000 –> 00:49:07.000
important. It just goes back to where is
00:49:07.000 –> 00:49:09.000
the fine line. I think that if you
00:49:09.000 –> 00:49:12.000
are if you’re neglecting the data and all
00:49:12.000 –> 00:49:14.000
of the things that have happened, you’re doing
00:49:14.000 –> 00:49:16.000
it wrong. If you’re just going fully on
00:49:16.000 –> 00:49:18.000
gut instinct, you’re doing it wrong. Where’s that
00:49:18.000 –> 00:49:20.000
middle ground? Where where can we find out
00:49:20.000 –> 00:49:22.000
where we still allow the athleticism?
00:49:22.000 –> 00:49:24.000
We give you the prior knowledge tendencies,
00:49:25.000 –> 00:49:27.000
but you know that anything could happen.
00:49:28.000 –> 00:49:29.000
So I I
00:49:29.000 –> 00:49:31.000
I like that part because our athletes now
00:49:31.000 –> 00:49:34.000
in the game of baseball they’re bigger, stronger,
00:49:34.000 –> 00:49:35.000
faster, more athletic than they ever have been
00:49:35.000 –> 00:49:38.000
before. We’re not seeing it. We don’t see
00:49:38.000 –> 00:49:40.000
that athleticism anymore. And I think that that
00:49:40.000 –> 00:49:41.000
was part of the idea
00:49:41.000 –> 00:49:43.000
of limiting the shift
00:49:43.000 –> 00:49:46.000
is having more rangey athletes
00:49:46.000 –> 00:49:47.000
is not having
00:49:48.000 –> 00:49:50.000
a second baseman standing in right field when
00:49:50.000 –> 00:49:52.000
a guy hits absolute missile that was
00:49:53.000 –> 00:49:54.000
used to be a hit. Well, just about
00:49:54.000 –> 00:49:56.000
really, man. Carpenter’s great. Oh, for sure.
00:49:57.000 –> 00:49:59.000
For sure. So, again, I don’t know if
00:49:59.000 –> 00:50:01.000
like that either, the limiting of the shot.
00:50:01.000 –> 00:50:03.000
I go back and forth because,
00:50:03.000 –> 00:50:04.000
like, in my brain,
00:50:04.000 –> 00:50:07.000
I say evolve. Right? Evolve as a hitter.
00:50:07.000 –> 00:50:08.000
Yep. They’re all standing over there, hit it
00:50:08.000 –> 00:50:10.000
over that’s what I don’t understand. I’m like,
00:50:10.000 –> 00:50:12.000
for Carpenter, I’d be yelling at the TV
00:50:12.000 –> 00:50:13.000
like that stupid fan. I’m like, if they’re
00:50:13.000 –> 00:50:15.000
all over there, just slap that thing down
00:50:15.000 –> 00:50:17.000
the line and fix it. Couple of things.
00:50:17.000 –> 00:50:19.000
Right? Couple of things that go into. And
00:50:19.000 –> 00:50:20.000
it hearkens back to when I said it
00:50:20.000 –> 00:50:22.000
looks easy from up here when I’m watching
00:50:22.000 –> 00:50:24.000
the game. So I wouldn’t even stand at
00:50:24.000 –> 00:50:26.000
the batter’s house. I’d be scared to death.
00:50:26.000 –> 00:50:27.000
A lot of times, they say, Hey, just
00:50:27.000 –> 00:50:29.000
hit a ground ball the other way. Well,
00:50:30.000 –> 00:50:30.000
the pitcher
00:50:30.000 –> 00:50:33.000
knows what your tendency is. They that you’re
00:50:33.000 –> 00:50:35.000
a pull hitter. They’re gonna pitch you to
00:50:35.000 –> 00:50:36.000
it. You’re gonna get a lot of cutters
00:50:36.000 –> 00:50:38.000
and you’re gonna get a, they’re gonna let
00:50:38.000 –> 00:50:40.000
you hit it that way.
00:50:41.000 –> 00:50:43.000
It’s very difficult when somebody’s trying to get
00:50:43.000 –> 00:50:44.000
in your kitchen to hit it the other
00:50:44.000 –> 00:50:47.000
way. And then the the other part of
00:50:47.000 –> 00:50:48.000
it, Brett, is monetarily
00:50:49.000 –> 00:50:49.000
monetarily,
00:50:50.000 –> 00:50:52.000
you don’t get paid to hit three hundred.
00:50:52.000 –> 00:50:55.000
And it sucks to say, but you these
00:50:55.000 –> 00:50:57.000
guys get paid for doubles and homers. And
00:50:57.000 –> 00:51:00.000
doubles and homers aren’t coming slapping the other
00:51:00.000 –> 00:51:03.000
way. So this is this is next level.
00:51:03.000 –> 00:51:05.000
This is Rob Manfred and company Brett get
00:51:05.000 –> 00:51:07.000
together with, like, Elon Musk or something.
00:51:07.000 –> 00:51:09.000
But like how do we incentivize
00:51:09.000 –> 00:51:11.000
the game where that does get you paid?
00:51:11.000 –> 00:51:13.000
Where it’s it’s the ground ball to the
00:51:13.000 –> 00:51:15.000
right side to get the guy over. That’s
00:51:15.000 –> 00:51:18.000
quantifiable stat. Like, winning ball, winning baseball should
00:51:18.000 –> 00:51:21.000
be the goal all the time. Realize that
00:51:21.000 –> 00:51:21.000
people have,
00:51:22.000 –> 00:51:25.000
you you have a small window
00:51:25.000 –> 00:51:27.000
to go out there make your money. Yep.
00:51:27.000 –> 00:51:29.000
And you get it again. It’s strikeouts,
00:51:29.000 –> 00:51:32.000
for pitchers, it’s home runs, it’s doubles. But
00:51:32.000 –> 00:51:33.000
man, there are times in the game where
00:51:33.000 –> 00:51:35.000
I need a ground ball that one side.
00:51:35.000 –> 00:51:37.000
Yeah. Where I need that sacrifice fly. I
00:51:37.000 –> 00:51:39.000
feel like there’s gotta be a way to
00:51:39.000 –> 00:51:41.000
encompass that more into
00:51:41.000 –> 00:51:44.000
winning baseball for everybody. And you know, have
00:51:44.000 –> 00:51:47.000
a pool of money for for that or
00:51:47.000 –> 00:51:49.000
the guy that hits the single and hits
00:51:49.000 –> 00:51:51.000
three hundred or, you know, whatever
00:51:51.000 –> 00:51:54.000
I feel like we’re losing our complete baseball
00:51:54.000 –> 00:51:56.000
players, and it’s not the fact that these
00:51:56.000 –> 00:51:58.000
guys can’t do it. Like, that’s the frustrating
00:51:58.000 –> 00:52:00.000
part. It’s just the fact that the game
00:52:00.000 –> 00:52:02.000
doesn’t benefit them doing it. Yeah. That’s a
00:52:02.000 –> 00:52:03.000
good point. That’s a good point. So do
00:52:03.000 –> 00:52:05.000
we talk about the, O’Tani deal? I mean,
00:52:05.000 –> 00:52:06.000
do we do we dare go there? I
00:52:06.000 –> 00:52:07.000
mean,
00:52:07.000 –> 00:52:09.000
I should play better. That’s one of the
00:52:09.000 –> 00:52:11.000
one of the first things that I think
00:52:11.000 –> 00:52:12.000
about. Well, you should have been a right
00:52:12.000 –> 00:52:14.000
fielder as well as a person. I think
00:52:14.000 –> 00:52:16.000
so. And talent did. And, yes, No. That
00:52:17.000 –> 00:52:19.000
those all would be good. Seven year, seventy
00:52:19.000 –> 00:52:20.000
million dollar deal with what was it? Sixty
00:52:20.000 –> 00:52:20.000
eight per deferred? Yeah.
00:52:24.000 –> 00:52:26.000
That’s So here’s my my question. And you’re
00:52:26.000 –> 00:52:28.000
the financial Gilliland so here’s what I don’t
00:52:28.000 –> 00:52:30.000
understand. Maybe you know this, maybe you don’t.
00:52:30.000 –> 00:52:32.000
And I haven’t read it in to see
00:52:32.000 –> 00:52:33.000
if it’s out there. So if I’m the
00:52:33.000 –> 00:52:35.000
fan, let me go on my soapbox for
00:52:35.000 –> 00:52:36.000
a minute. If I’m the fan, that’s just
00:52:36.000 –> 00:52:38.000
great for the net. Is it seven years
00:52:38.000 –> 00:52:39.000
or ten years, whatever it is? Oh, yeah.
00:52:39.000 –> 00:52:41.000
I’m sorry. Ten years. Yeah. Ten years, seven
00:52:41.000 –> 00:52:42.000
hundred hundred million.
00:52:42.000 –> 00:52:44.000
I’m excited for the next ten years, assuming
00:52:44.000 –> 00:52:45.000
it stays healthy.
00:52:46.000 –> 00:52:48.000
But what about the eleventh year? Right? So
00:52:48.000 –> 00:52:50.000
now the guy is getting paid sixty eight
00:52:50.000 –> 00:52:51.000
million dollars.
00:52:51.000 –> 00:52:53.000
To not play for you. They they talked
00:52:53.000 –> 00:52:54.000
about Bobby Baniya,
00:52:55.000 –> 00:52:57.000
like his deal, right, with the Mets? Remember
00:52:57.000 –> 00:52:58.000
that one? Yep. Still getting paid, I think.
00:52:59.000 –> 00:53:01.000
But point is is now I’m paying sixty
00:53:01.000 –> 00:53:02.000
eight million dollars. So number one, I don’t
00:53:02.000 –> 00:53:03.000
know if I liked that as a fan.
00:53:03.000 –> 00:53:04.000
But number two,
00:53:05.000 –> 00:53:07.000
as the financial guy, O’Tani, is I’d rather
00:53:07.000 –> 00:53:09.000
have my seventy million today
00:53:10.000 –> 00:53:12.000
because my fear would be, what if what
00:53:12.000 –> 00:53:14.000
if they’re not around? Obviously, the dodgers probably
00:53:14.000 –> 00:53:15.000
aren’t going anywhere. Yeah. That’s what you think
00:53:15.000 –> 00:53:17.000
Right? What if they’re not there? So I
00:53:17.000 –> 00:53:18.000
don’t know if they buy an insurance policy
00:53:18.000 –> 00:53:20.000
on that, but he’s putting a lot of
00:53:20.000 –> 00:53:23.000
trust in the Los Angeles Dodgers to, to
00:53:23.000 –> 00:53:24.000
pay me pay me in ten years. Brad,
00:53:24.000 –> 00:53:25.000
I didn’t even think about that.
00:53:26.000 –> 00:53:27.000
That’s why I have guys like you. That’s
00:53:27.000 –> 00:53:30.000
right. They’re thinking about things like this. So,
00:53:30.000 –> 00:53:32.000
what what are the ways, I guess, that
00:53:32.000 –> 00:53:34.000
he is able to do this, not that
00:53:34.000 –> 00:53:35.000
it, like, you want your money and you
00:53:35.000 –> 00:53:37.000
wanna be able to utilize it and wanna
00:53:37.000 –> 00:53:38.000
be able to grow it. I guess one
00:53:38.000 –> 00:53:39.000
of the ways that he’s doing it, they
00:53:39.000 –> 00:53:41.000
say he makes at least over fifty million
00:53:41.000 –> 00:53:42.000
dollars a year off the field. That helps.
00:53:42.000 –> 00:53:44.000
Okay. I shouldn’t know that. To be able
00:53:44.000 –> 00:53:45.000
to do that. I figured he wasn’t going
00:53:45.000 –> 00:53:47.000
broke. No. But chances are. I think I
00:53:47.000 –> 00:53:48.000
was I was looking at this the other
00:53:48.000 –> 00:53:50.000
day. I think that with the
00:53:51.000 –> 00:53:53.000
the two million that he’s technically making. As
00:53:53.000 –> 00:53:55.000
you and I were talking before the podcast,
00:53:55.000 –> 00:53:57.000
though, like, it’ll it’ll cost more or it’ll
00:53:57.000 –> 00:53:59.000
look like more Yeah. At least when they
00:53:59.000 –> 00:54:01.000
do the luxury tax, whatever. But for the
00:54:01.000 –> 00:54:03.000
two million that he’s making, I think he’s,
00:54:03.000 –> 00:54:05.000
like, the tenth or eleventh highest paid player
00:54:05.000 –> 00:54:07.000
on the Dodgers. Right? Now. Like, it’s it’s
00:54:07.000 –> 00:54:09.000
it’s kind of a silly figure that is
00:54:09.000 –> 00:54:12.000
out there. But, yeah, I I don’t know.
00:54:12.000 –> 00:54:14.000
I don’t know how this shakes out at
00:54:14.000 –> 00:54:15.000
the end of it. I don’t know how
00:54:15.000 –> 00:54:17.000
it works out for him, but I do
00:54:17.000 –> 00:54:19.000
know it allows the dodgers a team with
00:54:19.000 –> 00:54:21.000
a lot of financial flexibility anyhow, obviously, to
00:54:21.000 –> 00:54:23.000
be able to sign a deal like this.
00:54:23.000 –> 00:54:24.000
At some point, you’re gonna to pay the
00:54:24.000 –> 00:54:26.000
piper. Yeah. But it also allows them to
00:54:26.000 –> 00:54:28.000
go out there and add more pieces. You
00:54:28.000 –> 00:54:30.000
know, they already made the Brad. They brought
00:54:30.000 –> 00:54:33.000
in glass now. Yeah. And they signed him
00:54:33.000 –> 00:54:36.000
to an extension. Apparently, they’re still in on
00:54:36.000 –> 00:54:36.000
Yamamoto
00:54:37.000 –> 00:54:39.000
Yeah. Which is crazy. And who knows, by
00:54:39.000 –> 00:54:41.000
the time somebody watches this, maybe Yamamoto has
00:54:41.000 –> 00:54:43.000
signed. Right. He’s met with a few different
00:54:43.000 –> 00:54:44.000
teams. Don’t believe the cardinals are one of
00:54:44.000 –> 00:54:46.000
them at this point. Maybe maybe they are
00:54:46.000 –> 00:54:48.000
the mystery team. We’ll go with that mystery
00:54:48.000 –> 00:54:52.000
team, but, it’s if you are able to
00:54:52.000 –> 00:54:54.000
structure a deal like that, it sure does
00:54:54.000 –> 00:54:56.000
provide your team some flexibility. And I wonder
00:54:56.000 –> 00:54:58.000
I wonder, like, what doors is this gonna,
00:54:59.000 –> 00:55:01.000
like, or this Pandora’s box. Yeah. Like doing
00:55:01.000 –> 00:55:01.000
sixty
00:55:02.000 –> 00:55:04.000
dollars. They’re gonna be able to get. They’ll
00:55:04.000 –> 00:55:05.000
pay for that. Yeah. They’ll pay for that.
00:55:05.000 –> 00:55:08.000
That’s why, I mean, unfortunately, Anutani can’t, like,
00:55:08.000 –> 00:55:10.000
as he can. But to come to Saint
00:55:10.000 –> 00:55:11.000
Louis is gonna be hard versus you gotta
00:55:11.000 –> 00:55:13.000
be in LA or New York for that
00:55:13.000 –> 00:55:14.000
amount of money. You would think. You would
00:55:14.000 –> 00:55:17.000
think so. Right? So, I’m
00:55:17.000 –> 00:55:19.000
I’m interested to see it. Like, I I’m
00:55:19.000 –> 00:55:21.000
looking forward to you. Think about that lineup.
00:55:21.000 –> 00:55:23.000
You think about three guys or you have
00:55:23.000 –> 00:55:24.000
three hall of famers in a row. You
00:55:24.000 –> 00:55:27.000
got you got Muokey Brett Shohaeotani and Freddie
00:55:27.000 –> 00:55:28.000
Freeman? Stop.
00:55:28.000 –> 00:55:30.000
It’s incredible. Yeah. You know who’s gonna be
00:55:30.000 –> 00:55:32.000
calling his game. Who’s that? Brad Thompson?
00:55:33.000 –> 00:55:35.000
That’ll be fun. I mean, right? Hope I
00:55:35.000 –> 00:55:37.000
get the Dodgers series. Did and that who
00:55:37.000 –> 00:55:39.000
we open it against? Oh, yeah. In LA,
00:55:40.000 –> 00:55:42.000
right in the beginning. I mean, Brett It’s
00:55:42.000 –> 00:55:44.000
no hate time. Because he he’ll be, yeah,
00:55:44.000 –> 00:55:46.000
he’s back. He just has the DH next
00:55:46.000 –> 00:55:47.000
year. Right? Just the DH. But he’ll be
00:55:47.000 –> 00:55:48.000
he’ll be ready for opening day. Real quick.
00:55:48.000 –> 00:55:50.000
Yeah. And he will be.
00:55:50.000 –> 00:55:52.000
That’s one of the that’s another thing. You
00:55:52.000 –> 00:55:54.000
wanna think about this investment. That just tells
00:55:54.000 –> 00:55:55.000
you off the field they’re gonna make all
00:55:55.000 –> 00:55:56.000
their money. They’re they’re gonna be fine. You
00:55:56.000 –> 00:55:58.000
have a lot of smart people crunching the
00:55:58.000 –> 00:56:00.000
over there, with the Dodgers.
00:56:01.000 –> 00:56:02.000
What what if he doesn’t pitch again? I
00:56:02.000 –> 00:56:05.000
know. He he’s had two elbow surgeries. He’s
00:56:05.000 –> 00:56:07.000
had Tommy John, and then he’s had whatever
00:56:07.000 –> 00:56:09.000
this last one was, which that they’ve kept
00:56:09.000 –> 00:56:10.000
close to the vest. Obviously, the Dodgers have
00:56:10.000 –> 00:56:13.000
to know exactly what he Brad. But that’s
00:56:13.000 –> 00:56:15.000
a lot. That is an enormous risk, but
00:56:15.000 –> 00:56:18.000
it just tells you that unicorn that Shohae
00:56:18.000 –> 00:56:21.000
O’Tani is, that even with the murkiness of
00:56:21.000 –> 00:56:22.000
the future, it makes them it’s not murky
00:56:22.000 –> 00:56:24.000
at all. I just think two surgeries, one
00:56:24.000 –> 00:56:25.000
area,
00:56:25.000 –> 00:56:27.000
is a little scary when you’re investing like
00:56:27.000 –> 00:56:29.000
that. Yeah. Like, that is that is a
00:56:29.000 –> 00:56:31.000
lot to be thrown out there. For one
00:56:31.000 –> 00:56:32.000
thing, the rehab, I mean, you know that
00:56:32.000 –> 00:56:34.000
from experience. Right? I mean, the rehab become
00:56:34.000 –> 00:56:36.000
that who knows what’s gonna happen with the
00:56:36.000 –> 00:56:39.000
arm? It’s scary, man. So, last question for
00:56:39.000 –> 00:56:41.000
you, Brad, is, you think about your amazing
00:56:41.000 –> 00:56:43.000
well, now I got two questions for you.
00:56:43.000 –> 00:56:44.000
One of them is about your kids. What
00:56:44.000 –> 00:56:46.000
what do they think? You know, obviously Dylan
00:56:46.000 –> 00:56:48.000
playing baseball and stuff now. I’m sure your
00:56:48.000 –> 00:56:50.000
daughter pays attention to that stuff. And what
00:56:50.000 –> 00:56:51.000
do they think about Brad
00:56:52.000 –> 00:56:54.000
you know, doing what you’re doing now. Yeah.
00:56:54.000 –> 00:56:55.000
They,
00:56:55.000 –> 00:56:57.000
they’re finally at the point where I think
00:56:57.000 –> 00:56:58.000
that they understand
00:56:58.000 –> 00:57:00.000
what what it is that I do. And,
00:57:00.000 –> 00:57:02.000
as as I mentioned earlier, year. My son
00:57:02.000 –> 00:57:04.000
was born Gilliland,
00:57:04.000 –> 00:57:06.000
of my career, wasn’t in the big leagues
00:57:06.000 –> 00:57:07.000
anymore. So he never got to see that.
00:57:07.000 –> 00:57:09.000
And he never, my my kids never got
00:57:09.000 –> 00:57:11.000
to come to the field with me and
00:57:11.000 –> 00:57:13.000
and go play in the field. Like, stuff
00:57:13.000 –> 00:57:14.000
that I I got to see all these
00:57:14.000 –> 00:57:16.000
other guys do. Yeah. Or I was like,
00:57:16.000 –> 00:57:18.000
look at these old guys. They’re kids.
00:57:18.000 –> 00:57:20.000
My kids never got to do that. Yeah.
00:57:20.000 –> 00:57:21.000
Like, what a great thing it is for
00:57:21.000 –> 00:57:23.000
all these these kids. They get to kinda
00:57:23.000 –> 00:57:24.000
grow up in a clubhouse.
00:57:25.000 –> 00:57:28.000
Well, I they kinda get a little bit
00:57:28.000 –> 00:57:29.000
of that now with me doing what I
00:57:29.000 –> 00:57:31.000
do. They can come up to the booth
00:57:31.000 –> 00:57:33.000
and kinda see see what that is like.
00:57:34.000 –> 00:57:36.000
But I hope they think it’s cool. There
00:57:36.000 –> 00:57:38.000
there are downsides to it. Right? Like any
00:57:38.000 –> 00:57:39.000
other job. Yep. We were talking about youth
00:57:39.000 –> 00:57:41.000
baseball earlier. Unfortunately,
00:57:41.000 –> 00:57:44.000
you know, the youth baseball season, which, like,
00:57:44.000 –> 00:57:46.000
if perfect world. You know, if I weren’t
00:57:46.000 –> 00:57:47.000
doing that, I’d be coaching all the time.
00:57:47.000 –> 00:57:49.000
Like, that’s it. I’d be I’d have a
00:57:49.000 –> 00:57:51.000
youth academy and be doing all of that.
00:57:52.000 –> 00:57:53.000
I miss a lot. I miss a lot
00:57:53.000 –> 00:57:55.000
of the kid stuff during the summer, and
00:57:55.000 –> 00:57:57.000
that that part of it is very difficult.
00:57:57.000 –> 00:57:59.000
And that’s why this time now in the
00:57:59.000 –> 00:58:01.000
off season is so great to be home
00:58:01.000 –> 00:58:03.000
be able to pour in a lot more.
00:58:03.000 –> 00:58:04.000
But I I think that they like it,
00:58:04.000 –> 00:58:06.000
but I’ll be honest with you. I think
00:58:06.000 –> 00:58:08.000
the biggest thing that they get a kick
00:58:08.000 –> 00:58:10.000
out of is that I know Fred Bird.
00:58:10.000 –> 00:58:11.000
That’s it. Like that And I do your
00:58:11.000 –> 00:58:13.000
show. Fred Bird’s my end. Yeah. I got
00:58:13.000 –> 00:58:15.000
the Partners kids TV show. That’s my end.
00:58:15.000 –> 00:58:16.000
That’s awesome. And that last question I was
00:58:16.000 –> 00:58:19.000
gonna talk about is the community is very
00:58:19.000 –> 00:58:21.000
important to you, and you and your, amazing
00:58:21.000 –> 00:58:22.000
wife, you guys do awesome stuff for our,
00:58:22.000 –> 00:58:24.000
for our community here in Saint Louis. But
00:58:24.000 –> 00:58:26.000
when when you think about legacy, I mean,
00:58:26.000 –> 00:58:27.000
what do you what do you got the
00:58:27.000 –> 00:58:29.000
Thompson family to be known for.
00:58:29.000 –> 00:58:32.000
And, what’s important about that to you? Man,
00:58:32.000 –> 00:58:33.000
it’s it’s a great question. Honestly, I I’m
00:58:33.000 –> 00:58:35.000
not sure how much I’ve actually thought about
00:58:35.000 –> 00:58:38.000
leg Like, I thought about down the road.
00:58:38.000 –> 00:58:40.000
But I know this, I I don’t ever
00:58:40.000 –> 00:58:43.000
wanna be the person that is is walking
00:58:43.000 –> 00:58:44.000
up and you’re like, oh, here you go.
00:58:44.000 –> 00:58:46.000
Or are, like, I I want to be
00:58:46.000 –> 00:58:48.000
somebody that that leaves,
00:58:48.000 –> 00:58:51.000
when somebody thinks about me or what I
00:58:51.000 –> 00:58:53.000
do, like, they smile. Like, and,
00:58:53.000 –> 00:58:56.000
they I wanna bring excitement. I wanna bring
00:58:56.000 –> 00:58:58.000
happiness, and I I want to be able
00:58:58.000 –> 00:59:00.000
to give back. And I think that that
00:59:00.000 –> 00:59:01.000
is important, Brett. And I know that something
00:59:01.000 –> 00:59:03.000
that you and your wife do a ton
00:59:03.000 –> 00:59:05.000
of in in our community. And, it’s something
00:59:05.000 –> 00:59:07.000
that I would love to just build something
00:59:07.000 –> 00:59:09.000
more than the right here, the right now,
00:59:09.000 –> 00:59:11.000
the the this game. And, you know, that’s
00:59:11.000 –> 00:59:12.000
kind of a a process. But I think
00:59:12.000 –> 00:59:14.000
it’s also a great example.
00:59:14.000 –> 00:59:16.000
You’ve got a, you know, a young family
00:59:16.000 –> 00:59:19.000
who learning how important that is that it’s
00:59:19.000 –> 00:59:22.000
more so than just the the I am
00:59:22.000 –> 00:59:23.000
doing this right now and say, no, what
00:59:23.000 –> 00:59:26.000
we doing? What are we doing as a
00:59:26.000 –> 00:59:27.000
as a community as a as a people?
00:59:27.000 –> 00:59:30.000
So, I’d like to continue to grow that.
00:59:30.000 –> 00:59:32.000
But I think that any way that, you
00:59:32.000 –> 00:59:34.000
know, I can help in the community. I
00:59:34.000 –> 00:59:36.000
like to do. I like to to be
00:59:36.000 –> 00:59:38.000
around and I like to just be a
00:59:38.000 –> 00:59:40.000
part of things. And it’s special being here,
00:59:41.000 –> 00:59:42.000
being a part of the community of Saint
00:59:42.000 –> 00:59:44.000
Louis and the greater Saint Louis area
00:59:45.000 –> 00:59:45.000
is,
00:59:45.000 –> 00:59:48.000
it’s big. But it’s small. Right. It feels
00:59:48.000 –> 00:59:50.000
like, a Gilliland it’s it’s nice to be
00:59:50.000 –> 00:59:52.000
a part of it. Looking for the date
00:59:52.000 –> 00:59:54.000
exactly. I should know that.
00:59:54.000 –> 00:59:56.000
But speaking of stuff for the community, for
00:59:56.000 –> 00:59:58.000
those listening, February tenth, put that on your
00:59:58.000 –> 01:00:01.000
calendar, the the KC Hall in Ofoul in
01:00:01.000 –> 01:00:03.000
Illinois, Rock for Hope. Oh, nice. For Hope,
01:00:03.000 –> 01:00:06.000
Charity got a Brad, the Nashville All stars
01:00:06.000 –> 01:00:08.000
is what we’re calling about. It’s like big
01:00:08.000 –> 01:00:10.000
country music people. It’s like their guitar player,
01:00:10.000 –> 01:00:12.000
their drummer, their what Yes. When they’re not
01:00:12.000 –> 01:00:14.000
traveling with their main people, they come together.
01:00:14.000 –> 01:00:16.000
And so they’re coming here from Nashville, Tennessee
01:00:17.000 –> 01:00:18.000
on, February tenth
01:00:19.000 –> 01:00:20.000
at the KC Hall, we’re gonna raise some
01:00:20.000 –> 01:00:22.000
money. We’re gonna kick cancer’s ass and listen
01:00:22.000 –> 01:00:24.000
to an amazing band. So maybe you’ll see
01:00:24.000 –> 01:00:26.000
Brad Thompson there. Oh, no doubt. If I’m
01:00:26.000 –> 01:00:28.000
in town, I’m there. You’re there. How long
01:00:28.000 –> 01:00:30.000
have you guys been going with swingpro?
01:00:30.000 –> 01:00:31.000
It’s
01:00:32.000 –> 01:00:34.000
been amazing, man. It’s a long time. And
01:00:34.000 –> 01:00:37.000
so, you know, my the story, my mom’s,
01:00:37.000 –> 01:00:40.000
my mom’s mom and her grandma and two
01:00:40.000 –> 01:00:41.000
of her aunts were all diagnosed with cancer
01:00:41.000 –> 01:00:43.000
at the same time within about a six
01:00:43.000 –> 01:00:44.000
or seven month period.
01:00:44.000 –> 01:00:46.000
And, so that that was a lot. And
01:00:46.000 –> 01:00:47.000
so
01:00:47.000 –> 01:00:49.000
we were driving and thinking what are we
01:00:49.000 –> 01:00:50.000
gonna do about this? And so we started
01:00:50.000 –> 01:00:52.000
our charity. And so with amazing people in
01:00:52.000 –> 01:00:54.000
the community, look out the windows here. I
01:00:54.000 –> 01:00:55.000
mean, we couldn’t do what we do without
01:00:55.000 –> 01:00:57.000
the people on our our board and people
01:00:57.000 –> 01:00:59.000
like you that show up to events. It’s
01:00:59.000 –> 01:01:01.000
just it’s awesome, man. So thanks for asking.
01:01:01.000 –> 01:01:03.000
But it’s, this is about Brad Thompson.
01:01:04.000 –> 01:01:06.000
Two thousand twenty four season. What were we
01:01:06.000 –> 01:01:06.000
predicting?
01:01:07.000 –> 01:01:09.000
More wins. Yeah. More wins. That’s for a
01:01:09.000 –> 01:01:11.000
quote. Hey, look. The cardinals, they they made
01:01:11.000 –> 01:01:13.000
some additions. I know a lot of people
01:01:13.000 –> 01:01:14.000
joking around. I was like, man, they got
01:01:14.000 –> 01:01:16.000
older. It got better is is what they
01:01:16.000 –> 01:01:18.000
did. And, at this point,
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three additions to your rotation, Sunny Gravee, and
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the headliner who I think is a fantastic
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you have a three year deal for Sunny
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Gray guy that knows exactly what he’s doing.
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I think that he’s gonna be Brett. Second
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in the Sa Young voting last year.
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Lancelyn and Kyle Gibson adds certainty in the
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middle of your rotation, and especially Lance Lynn
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and Kyle Gibson adds leadership for sure. But,
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Lance Lynn adds an element that you didn’t
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have, somebody that a little porcupine,
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a little bristle,
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in there that will push back. And I
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think that’s an important thing to have club
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houses. So I I know that he’s gonna
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add that. You picked up a couple of
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bullpen arms, wanting to trade with Boston, other
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in the rule five draft. I I don’t
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believe that they’re done yet when it comes
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to the pen. So I’m excited. I’m excited
01:02:01.000 –> 01:02:03.000
to see the young guys. I wanna see
01:02:03.000 –> 01:02:05.000
a year two of Jordan Walker. Yeah. Can’t
01:02:05.000 –> 01:02:07.000
wait to watch Mason win, man short stop
01:02:07.000 –> 01:02:09.000
for a season the kid is. So he’ll
01:02:09.000 –> 01:02:10.000
start. They already said that. Yeah. I believe
01:02:10.000 –> 01:02:12.000
so. Like, that’s the plan, at least, that
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he’ll be the guy.
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So I’m looking forward to that. Gilliland Aronado,
01:02:17.000 –> 01:02:20.000
another year with those guys. Like, everything is
01:02:20.000 –> 01:02:21.000
right there for the cardinals
01:02:22.000 –> 01:02:24.000
to compete and hopefully win the central. Other
01:02:24.000 –> 01:02:26.000
teams have been pretty quiet in the central.
01:02:26.000 –> 01:02:28.000
I don’t expect come to stay quiet the
01:02:28.000 –> 01:02:30.000
entire time other than hiring Craig Council away
01:02:30.000 –> 01:02:33.000
from the Milwaukee brewers, which is crazy. You’re
01:02:33.000 –> 01:02:35.000
in division, isn’t it? Yeah. Well, especially how
01:02:35.000 –> 01:02:37.000
much money they paid Right? Gave him a
01:02:37.000 –> 01:02:39.000
a forty million dollar deal over five years.
01:02:39.000 –> 01:02:39.000
Pretty impressive.
01:02:40.000 –> 01:02:42.000
So you would believe that they’re not done
01:02:42.000 –> 01:02:43.000
adding to it. But I think that they
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should be competing for their vision this year.
01:02:45.000 –> 01:02:47.000
And I know cardinal fans, like, hate to
01:02:47.000 –> 01:02:49.000
hear it because they they wanna talk about
01:02:49.000 –> 01:02:51.000
building what the Dodgers Brett. Right? Go out
01:02:51.000 –> 01:02:53.000
and just spend all all of this money,
01:02:53.000 –> 01:02:54.000
but it is very true. And I think
01:02:54.000 –> 01:02:56.000
the Dodgers can tell you this too is
01:02:56.000 –> 01:02:58.000
they don’t win the world series every time
01:02:58.000 –> 01:03:00.000
they get there, get into the post season,
01:03:00.000 –> 01:03:03.000
get yourself and specifically win your division,
01:03:03.000 –> 01:03:05.000
win your Gilliland
01:03:05.000 –> 01:03:07.000
you never know what’s gonna happen when you
01:03:07.000 –> 01:03:09.000
get into October. So that’s the hope this
01:03:09.000 –> 01:03:11.000
year that we have a deep run into
01:03:11.000 –> 01:03:13.000
October, I think you got the right pieces
01:03:13.000 –> 01:03:14.000
to do. And I also know that you
01:03:14.000 –> 01:03:16.000
have the right prospect capital. If you get
01:03:16.000 –> 01:03:18.000
close to the trade deadline, you believe that
01:03:18.000 –> 01:03:19.000
you’re a piece short,
01:03:19.000 –> 01:03:21.000
that John Jose logged, Michael Gers, they can
01:03:21.000 –> 01:03:22.000
go out and make a deal like. Yeah.
01:03:22.000 –> 01:03:24.000
That’s awesome. Where do our listeners find more
01:03:24.000 –> 01:03:25.000
of Brad Thompson?
01:03:26.000 –> 01:03:28.000
Right here. On this podcast is where you
01:03:28.000 –> 01:03:30.000
find out. I’m, hopefully be doing a lot
01:03:30.000 –> 01:03:32.000
more games on on Valley sports,
01:03:32.000 –> 01:03:33.000
doing a lot of fill in work on
01:03:33.000 –> 01:03:36.000
01:01 ESPN as know, I’ve scaled back, but
01:03:36.000 –> 01:03:37.000
I can’t stay all the way out. You
01:03:37.000 –> 01:03:39.000
know, Andrea doesn’t want me home all the
01:03:39.000 –> 01:03:40.000
time, Brad. I gotta be able to get
01:03:40.000 –> 01:03:42.000
out of the house. So, hopefully, you hear
01:03:42.000 –> 01:03:44.000
me popping up a little bit more here
01:03:44.000 –> 01:03:45.000
this new year. Man, thanks so much for
01:03:45.000 –> 01:03:47.000
being on the circuit of success. I appreciate
01:03:47.000 –> 01:03:49.000
having you. I think I think you might
01:03:49.000 –> 01:03:51.000
be the only three time guest because you
01:03:51.000 –> 01:03:52.000
were I looked at this last night. Really?
01:03:52.000 –> 01:03:54.000
We did this in April.
01:03:54.000 –> 01:03:57.000
I started this February six two thousand seventeen.
01:03:58.000 –> 01:04:00.000
You were on an April of two thousand
01:04:00.000 –> 01:04:01.000
seventeen. I looked, so our kids would have
01:04:01.000 –> 01:04:04.000
been, like, three. That my fourth and your
01:04:04.000 –> 01:04:06.000
oldest would have been three. And then we
01:04:06.000 –> 01:04:06.000
did,
01:04:07.000 –> 01:04:08.000
which was a blast for me. Hopefully, it
01:04:08.000 –> 01:04:10.000
was fun for you all. Me, you, Jason
01:04:10.000 –> 01:04:11.000
Iseringhausen,
01:04:12.000 –> 01:04:15.000
Kyle McClellan, Jason Simonachi, and Brian Jordan. That
01:04:15.000 –> 01:04:16.000
was a fun one. That was awesome. We’re
01:04:16.000 –> 01:04:18.000
all at home. Remember that? It’s supposed to
01:04:18.000 –> 01:04:19.000
be open today? It’s supposed to be opening
01:04:19.000 –> 01:04:21.000
day for the cardinals, and we had an
01:04:21.000 –> 01:04:22.000
amazing, I don’t know, hour and a half,
01:04:22.000 –> 01:04:24.000
two hour deal. So that was awesome. So,
01:04:24.000 –> 01:04:26.000
brother, thank you for being with us again.
01:04:26.000 –> 01:04:27.000
It’s awesome having you. Thank you for having
01:04:27.000 –> 01:04:28.000
me as honored three times.
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