Care home deaths in England and Wales now account for forty percent of all deaths from coronavirus - and one result has been a political row. Why have things gone wrong for our most vulnerable citizens and the people who care for them?  

Guests:

Greg Hurst, social affairs editor at The Times.

Irene Owen, a 91-year-old resident of Devonshire Court in Leicestershire.

Sonja Bell, daughter of a elderly resident at The Heights in Buckinghamshire.

Kimberly Ross, care assistant at Connaught Court in York.

Karen Casey, activity co-ordinator at Zetland Court in Bournemouth.

Additional support: Michael Clarke, Times Video Team.

Host: David Aaronovitch.

Additional music: Chris Zabriskie (licenced under Creative Commons).

Clips: BBC, TalkRadio, TalkSport.

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