Naomi Shimada meets fellow model Deba Hekmat, who's broken the beauty rules and stopped caring about body hair.

For Deba, body hair is complicated, cultural and even comforting. Determined to put Kurdish beauty on the fashion map, Deba has modelled for streetwear and catwalk brands and now believes her body hair is for showing, not for shaving.

She joins Naomi to discuss how growing her body hair also grew her body confidence.

Presenter: Naomi Shimada

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Photo: Deba Hekmat/ Naomi Shimada Credit: Suleika Mueller/ BBC