07.12.2023 - By The Ringer
Erika and Steven first dig into the intricacies of being in business with friends (0:30). Then, Erika is joined by Charles Holmes to dive into the fractious but beautiful friendship and artistic alignment that tenuously hold the business partnership between Carmy and Sydney together (17:00).
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Hosts: Erika Ramirez and Steven Othello
Guest: Charles Holmes
Producer: Sasha Ashall
Theme Music: Devon Renaldo
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