After several botched attempts, Carrie sits down with “enlightened woman,” “Siberian shaman priestess,” and “doctor of psychology” Shakuntali Siberia to discuss her philosophy of empowering women, working with scientists, and healing disease, including COVID-19. Using Shakuntali’s own materials and videos, Carrie draws together multiple threads in the guru’s origin story, questions her recent in-person “health and protection” circles, challenges some of her central claims, and asks her followers to consider the source. PLUS, find out who Carrie’s ancestors are!

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