It's MaxFunDrive. And here, for the first time, we give you an exclusive look (well, listen) at the craft of podcasting: presenting Casters on Casters.

Manolo Moreno (Dr. Gameshow) chats with Tom Lum (Let's Learn Everything!) about podcasting, in a conversation that covers everything from getting dropped from a network for not being famous enough, to quantum physics and ghosts. Plus, they share their podcast origin stories, running gags on their respective shows, and what happens when a die hard listener becomes a die hard teenager.

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Edited by Laura Swisher and Produced by Hannah Muroz for Maximum Fun.

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