Our guest today is Linda Murphy, founder of the Relationship and Divorce Counseling Center where she and her colleagues work to help others through difficult relationship transitions. Sometimes, that means coaching through the divorce process. But sometimes, it means catching the relationship before divorce becomes the destination. When should you start counseling? What signs are you watching that you might be able to save the marriage with a little help? How do you know it’s over? Linda’s experience working with couples gives her a perspective on divorce that is optimistic, not dedicating to saving marriages, but navigating conflict in a way that might just help you illuminate a new path in your own relationship. Links & Notes

• Relationship and Divorce Counseling Center

• (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
• (00:26) - Introducing Linda Murphy, Relationship and Divorce Counseling Center
• (00:46) - Helping Before They Get Divorced
• (03:42) - Creating an Environment for the Couple to Make Relationship Decisions
• (05:23) - Counseling's Not Just for Before Divorce
• (06:48) - When People Try Counseling
• (08:24) - Motivation's Required
• (10:18) - Reading the Signs and Signals as a Counselor
• (11:55) - Reading the Signs From Within the Marriage
• (14:23) - Walking Through the Process
• (15:41) - Never Taking Sides
• (17:34) - Continuing the Process
• (18:30) - Schemas
• (22:37) - Rejection Sensitivity & Unrealistic Expectations
• (26:25) - Barrier to Counseling
• (28:01) - Need for Counseling Does Not Necessarily Lead to Divorce
• (29:39) - Counseling as a Gate
• (30:59) - When Does Counseling End
• (32:43) - Identifying Your Values
• (35:38) - Transitioning to Individual Counseling
• (39:36) - Wrapping Up