In this episode of Catching Up, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore what's changing in education—and what should change next—through the lenses of infrastructure, accountability, and emerging technology. They discuss a "smart city" view of transportation and connectivity, unpack new research on how parents respond to grades vs. standardized test data, and examine a Florida study on how school choice competition impacts performance. The conversation then shifts to the Future of Tech and Work, including AI agents and the incentive structures shaping major AI companies—ending with a clear call to invest in "relational infrastructure" so that human connection, trust, and agency grow alongside AI.

Outline

• (00:00) Welcome & Overview
• (03:23) Infrastructure & Mexico City
• (08:36) AI Agents & Moltbook
• (13:37) Parents, Grades & Testing
• (18:28) School Choice Study
• (38:26) Bottom-Up Innovation Framework
• (47:08) What's That Song?

Links

• Watch the full video here
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