Brian chats with The Ringer’s Michael Pina about the Jrue Holiday trade, his elite defense, Brad Stevens’s busy offseason, and whether this trade makes the Celtics the title favorites (0:30). Then, Brian chats with three-time Super Bowl champ James White about the Pats’ blowout loss to the Cowboys, Mac’s dreadful performance, and whether the team can recover from its 1-3 start (53:45). Brian ends with a sad note on the passing of Tim Wakefield, and he takes a couple listener calls (1:25:15).

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Host: Brian Barrett

Guests: Michael Pina and James White

Producer: Jamie McClellan

Additional Production Supervision: Steve Ceruti

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