Carson Gross (creator of htmx) & Alex Russell (Mr. Web Platform 3000) join Amal for an EPIC discussion on web architectures, the evolution of rendering patterns & the advantages of hypermedia and htmx. We dive deep on why modern web app best practices are falling short & explore how htmx gives devs an HTML-first approach to use tech that’s over 20 years old.
Tune in to learn a new way to do something old, so you can simplify your code & use JavaScript when/where it’s uniquely able to shine ✨
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Show Notes:
htmx site and docsEPIC htmx TwitterHypermedia WikipediaHypermedia Systems - A free digital book from Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz AksimsekHypermedia Reintroduction (from Hypermedia Systems book)Infrequently - Alex Russell’s EPIC blogThe Market for LemonsPerformance Inequality Series from Alex RussellNetflix Web Performance Case Study (refactoring the Netflix login to vanilla html, js and css)Roy Fielding’s Dissertation on RESTREST APIs Must Be Hypertext-DrivenHATEOAS WikipediaOpen Web Advocacy GroupOpen UI GroupThe Website vs Web App Dichotomy Doesn’t ExistAs We May TypeMore Capable Form ControlsFun Hacks for Faster ContentGoogle jsaction lib on GithubIntercooler.js (Carson’s precursor to htmx)Previous Changelog interviews with Carson Gross on htmx:
Is htmx the way to Go? (Go Time #266)Less JavaScript more htmx (JS Party #171)The Market for Lemons - Diagram on Session & Interaction Depth vs Application Architectures (referenced in our podcast discussion)
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