In the "Don't Chuck It Up" podcast episode titled "Chaotic Times," host Chuck offers advice on navigating the college application and search process amidst a chaotic world. He shares a personal story about his experience at Lawrence University on September 11, 2001, and discusses more recent events, such as a tragedy on a Utah campus and lockdowns at HBCUs. Chuck encourages students and families to pause, take time for themselves, and know that there is still time to apply to colleges. He emphasizes the importance of having multiple options, including a plan B and C, and encourages listeners to look beyond well-known schools and college rankings. Chuck highlights that over half of U.S. colleges have rolling applications, and many are growing and exceeding enrollment expectations. He recommends Jeffrey Selingo's new book, Dream School: Finding the College that's Right for You, as a resource for finding great schools that may not be on a student's radar.