"The payment network has no value if your asset is not desirable. Like this is not, you cannot have this, like I'm just gonna build all of this stuff on top of it. And if none of the assurances of the underlying, those things don't matter because its value is in the quote unquote utility of payments.

Money is its own utility. Money is its own utility because where on earth do you hold value in something that can hold enormous amounts of value that has no counterparty risk, that has nobody in charge, that has nobody that can rug pull you. You do not understand that is a $100 trillion problem.

That is the biggest problem on earth."

~ Guy Swann

In this episode, I sit down with Jack Spirko, host of The Survival Podcast, to dive deep into the world of Bitcoin, the future of stablecoins, and the evolving landscape of digital currency.

How do you separate speculation from real-world value in an ever-changing market? Is Bitcoin destined to become a purely digital store of value, or is there more to its role in everyday life? We explore the limitations of altcoins and whether the rise of stablecoins might reshape the way we think about money itself. And what does it mean for personal sovereignty when the financial system is transitioning to something entirely digital?

Jack shares his insights, challenges some of the prevailing narratives, and offers thought-provoking perspectives on the intersection of Bitcoin, survival, and true independence.

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