August 21, 2025

Chat_141 - Protocols Over Platforms with Oscar Merry

1 hour 34 minutes

**"Obviously we're trying to make fountain the best possible listening experience and the best possible app for discovering great audio content.

**But more broadly than that, we don't want to turn into, you know, another version of Spotify where things only work in fountain. We want to, enable discovery and the signal around valuable content to come from anywhere and be consumed anywhere.

That's going to make fountain a lot better."

**~ Guy Swann

I sat down with Oscar Merry, founder of Fountain, to explore how Bitcoin, Nostr, and podcasting intersect in ways most people haven’t yet imagined. How can an open social protocol transform podcast discovery? What happens when “likes” work across every app, not just one platform? We dig into the technical hurdles — from key management and onboarding to building a better search for audio — and the surprising design decisions that make or break adoption. The good, the bad and the messy realities, of building tools that actually work for people, not just developers.

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