Chris Wyatt is a retired US Army Colonel and Intelligence Operative with a particular interest in South Africa. Chris has spent much of his post-military world making sense of the seismic political, economic and cultural changes in South Africa and has a network of informed and well-placed sources that gives him a perspective most South Africans don’t even have of their own backyard. In this discussion he and Gareth get into the future of the US, South Africa and some of the common themes of the deterioration of both systems under the destructive influence of the left. www.cliffcentral.com