He also shared how his passion began in the late 1980s, recalling riding his bike to buy packs of 1987 Topps cards, and even told a memorable story about dropping prized Todd Worrell rookie cards into the snow after being startled by a neighborhood dog—an experience that’s stuck with him decades later. The conversation then shifted to Joe’s memories of receiving a massive 1990 Fleer box set for Christmas, leading into a humorous breakdown of the infamous “junk wax era,” including a critique of Fleer’s off-center cuts and bland designs, and the realization that childhood sticker-covered doors may now be hiding unexpected value.

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