Albert and Adam sit down to chat with Gabe Cook aka The Ciderologist on everything from his origins in the cider world, to the state of bittersweet cider, to education in cider and perry and the way forward. Part trip down memory lane and part assessment of the current British cider scene.

Join Gabe's substack: https://theciderologist.substack.com/

Sign up for the Certified Cider Professional Programme here: https://www.theciderologist.com/pages/certified-cider-professional-programme

BBC Natural World: Wye, Voices from the Valley (2007).

Albert grows weird apples at @rosscider