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Clinical Challenges in Robotic Bariatric Surgery: The Robot is Here to Stay!


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Join us as we dissect the use of robotics in bariatric surgery – where precision meets programming, and the scalpel gets a software upgrade.

Video Clip Link: https://app.behindtheknife.org/video/clinical-challenges-in-robotic-bariatric-surgery-the-robot-is-here-to-stay
This videos includes:
- Robotic RYGB
- Robotic Sleeve Gastrectomy
- SADI: Single Anastomosis Duodenoileostomy

Hosts: 
- Matthew Martin, trauma and bariatric surgeon at the University of Southern California/Los Angeles General Medical Center (Los Angeles, California)
- Adrian Dan, bariatric and MIS surgeon, program director for the advanced MIS bariatric and foregut fellowship at Summa Health System (Akron, Ohio)
-  Crystal Johnson Mann, bariatric and foregut surgeon at the University of Florida (Gainesville, Florida)
- Katherine Cironi, general surgery resident at the University of Southern California/Los Angeles General Medical Center (Los Angeles, California)

Learning objectives: 
  • Strengths of the robot: 
    • Surgical robots are at the forefront of technology and continue to improve with detailed, precision cameras and the ability to remove baseline tremors
    • Allows for smooth movements, fine dissection, and precise tissue handling 
    • Ergonomics are more advantageous to the surgeon when compared to laparoscopy
    • Weaknesses of the robot:
      • The loss of haptic feedback can be challenging for surgeons early in their learning curve
      • Emphasis on surgical robots means some trainees may be losing exposure to laparoscopic techniques
      • Longer operative time when working robotically, and more time under anesthesia for the patient 
      • Increased cost for robotic surgery 
      • Outcomes data: 
        • Mixed data from the MBSA QIP database (metabolic and bariatric surgery accreditation and quality improvement program)
        • The most recent study looked at 824,000 patients from 2015-2022 who had a sleeve gastrectomy or RNY gastric bypass, either laparoscopically (lap sleeve 61%, lap RYGB 24%) or robotically (robo sleeve 11%, robo RYGB 4%).
          • Robotic sleeves were reported to have higher complication rates compared to laparoscopy, seen as higher overall morbidity and an increased rate of leaks 
          • While the robotic RYGBs have lower overall complications, including decreased morbidity and bleeding. Robotic RYGB can be especially advantageous with revisional surgeries when compared to lap.  
          • Setting up for success
            • Train your eyes to determine tension on tissue, since there is no haptic feedback
            • Learn how to assist yourself (manipulating the camera and effectively utilizing the fourth arm)
            • Understand how techniques of the surgery change when doing it robotically, as compared to laparoscopy 
            • Experienced operating room team 
            • When learning, recommend putting all cases feasible on the robot (including easier cases), to master the straightforward cases before moving to technically challenging revision cases.
            • Don’t hesitate to add an additional trocar or assistant port when needed 
            • Education in Robotic learning
              •  Learning by observation/mirroring – ex: robotic bilateral inguinal hernia (mirroring the attending/instructor)
              •  Easy for the attending/instructor in the case to switch instruments seamlessly, then give them back intermittently at the appropriate time
              •  Helpful when the attending annotates the screen to depict where to go 
              • Data-driven teaching tools on the Davinci system 
              • Tips for robotic sleeve gastrectomy:
                •  Of the robotic bariatric surgeries, sleeve gastrectomy is most similar to its laparoscopic procedure
                • 30-40 degrees of reverse Trendelenburg
                • Liver hammock stitch instead of a liver retractor (one less trocar), which makes a total of 4 trocars needed for the case
                • Green staple load for the first firing, then the rest are typically blue loads
                • Mixed opinions on reinforced staple loads versus non-reinforced staple loads and oversewing the staple line (discussed cost-benefit)
                •  Tips for robotic gastric bypass: 
                  •  Watch videos from colleagues to learn what they do
                  • Gastric bypass is a multi-quadrant surgery; thus, you must set yourself up for success so that your arms are not fighting when moving through different quadrants
                  •  A size 12 trocar on the left can make the formation of  the gastric pouch easier
                  • GJ and JJ anastomosis formed with a linear fire, then a two-layer closure with absorbable barb suture
                  • Don’t forget to close the mesenteric defect (non-absorbable braided suture)
                  • Tips for robotic DS and SADI: 
                    •  If doing a duodenal anastomosis hand-sewn, then recommend planning the exact number of sutures and locations of each for ease
                    • Hand-sewn anastomosis can have less bleeding and fewer strictures for patients, and is completed in a much more seamless fashion with the robot 
                    •  Future of Robotics 
                      • Haptic feedback
                      • Integrated visual overlays to identify anatomical structures/serve as an intraoperative map
                      • Artificial intelligence integration 
                      • Telesurgery – ex, small surgical robot deployed to space 

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