this special episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans chats with Gerrit Kazmaier, president, products and technology, Workday. They explore how Workday is evolving into a platform company, the role of AI agents in reshaping enterprise workflows, and why trust, accuracy, and extensibility are key to future-ready business solutions. Kazmaier also discusses Workday’s approach to ecosystem innovation and composable ERP.

Workday's AI Future

The Big Themes:

• Real-World Business Value From AI-Driven Results: Workday’s AI capabilities are already producing concrete results. Kazmaier shares examples like a recruiting agent that increased recruiter capacity by over 50% and contract intelligence tools that slashed legal costs by up to 60%. These aren’t experimental features—they’re embedded in Workday’s workflows to improve productivity and efficiency.
• Agents Will Enhance, Not Replace Applications: Kazmeier addresses the myth that AI agents will replace applications. Instead, Workday sees agents as accelerators of existing apps. Many enterprise applications were designed around human cognitive limits, but now AI agents can take over some of those mental loads. Over time, agents will become so proficient they’ll perform roles autonomously. But they won’t erase apps,they’ll enhance them.
• Composable ERP Is Now a Reality: Workday is making good on the long-promised vision of composable ERP: modular, customizable systems that allow organizations to choose the best tools for each job. Historically, integration challenges made composability difficult. Now, AI simplifies that complexity. Intelligent interfaces and smarter integration allow Workday’s ecosystem to plug into its core platform more fluidly.

The Big Quote: “This is like early Internet days . . . some people had innovative ideas. But economics weren't just there. Bandwidth was limited and expensive; not everyone had an Ilenternet-ready device...but as exponential improvements happened . . . an entirely new economy was invented, and I think it's the same with AI."

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At Google Cloud Next 2025, Google Cloud Vice President of Applied AI Duncan Lennox sits down with Bob Evans in part three of our series "Google Cloud and the AI Revolution." They discuss how Google Cloud is redefining enterprise applications through purpose-built AI agents, the shift from incremental to transformational innovation, and how businesses can harness agentic AI to deliver seamless, end-to-end customer experiences at scale.

Google Cloud’s Agentic Revolution

The Big Themes:

• Beyond Infrastructure to Applied AI: Historically, Google Cloud was associated with infrastructure, data analytics, databases, and backend technologies. However, it's now undergoing a transformation, stepping boldly into the realm of applied AI. Rather than just competing with established players in enterprise applications (like ERP, HCM, or CRM), Google Cloud is innovating at a more foundational level by creating entirely new types of agents and applications.
• The Customer Engagement Suite, A CRM Rethink: Google Cloud’s Customer Engagement Suite isn’t just an upgrade to traditional contact center software — it’s a full reimagining of how businesses engage with customers. Historically, customer service was seen as a cost center: something to be optimized for efficiency and minimized wherever possible. Google Cloud flips that on its head. With the Customer Engagement Suite, the focus shifts toward creating differentiated, high-quality customer experiences that build brand loyalty, satisfaction, and even new revenue streams.
• Best Adoption Practices: Lennox discusses several best practices for companies looking to succeed with applied AI. First, start somewhere tangible — don't try to "boil the ocean." Select a high-visibility area where AI can solve real problems and produce measurable results. Second, tie your efforts directly to business outcomes, such as customer experience improvements, revenue growth, or operational savings. Third, choose a strategic partner capable of evolving with you as the technology advances.

The Big Quote: "Experimentation is great, of course, but what I see more and more as I talk to C-level executives is they now want to be able to deliver ROI, and you have to make some bets. You've got to choose some areas. For us in applied AI, Customer Engagement Suite has been a great one, because it's a problem that C-level execs can understand."

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Erwan Menard is the director of product management for Google Cloud’s Cloud AI division, where he helps lead innovation at the intersection of AI agents, enterprise systems, and business outcomes. In part two of our series, Google Cloud and the AI Revolution, Erwan joins Bob Evans to discuss how governance, intentionality, and rapid scaling are critical to AI agent success, share insights on Google Cloud’s Agentspace and Agent Builder tools, and explore how multi-agent collaboration is reshaping the future of enterprise technology.

Purpose Driven AI Innovation

The Big Themes:

• Intentionality Drives Impact: Menard advises organizations not to jump into AI agent development for novelty’s sake, but to begin with a clearly defined problem and desired business outcome. However, once value is proven, it's crucial to scale intentionally. He shares the example of a customer rolling out 40,000 licenses of Agentspace only after deeply considering what kind of first experience they wanted their employees to have.
• Organizational Culture Shapes AI Adoption: There's no universal model for who should “own” AI governance. It depends on the company’s culture. Some companies may create centralized AI governance teams; others may embed responsibilities within existing business units or IT teams. The key is cultural acknowledgment: governance must be understood as a shared responsibility, not just an operational afterthought.
• Anchor in Business Value: With so many tools, models, and frameworks emerging, it’s easy for companies to fall into what he calls “optionality evaluation.” That is, spending so much time chasing the latest innovations that they lose sight of why they started exploring AI in the first place. Instead, he urges leaders to ask: What are we trying to improve? Whether it’s speeding up contract workflows, freeing up data scientists from routine tasks, or enhancing customer service, the goal should be clear.

The Big Quote: "If you find yourself in a constant evaluation loop for the new shiny object, maybe it's worth taking a pause and saying, 'Why are we doing this again?'"

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At Google Cloud Next 2025, Google Cloud VP and CTO Will Grannis joins Bob Evans to explore how AI is reshaping enterprise technology. Grannis shares how Google Cloud’s OCTO team works with customers on complex challenges, using DeepMind research, next-gen TPUs, and AI-native infrastructure, while noting the fading line between B2B and B2C and the cultural changes needed to adapt.

Inside Google Cloud’s AI Strategy

• Google Cloud Is AI-Native at Its Core: Grannis says that Google Cloud’s approach to AI is foundational. The organization’s mindset, shaped by Google’s long-standing leadership in AI, infuses every layer of its stack, from infrastructure to user interfaces. With a legacy of deploying machine learning at scale for over a decade, Google Cloud doesn’t just offer AI tools—it helps customers reimagine their businesses through AI-native thinking, using products like DeepMind and innovations born across Google’s consumer ecosystem.
• The OCTO Team Solves the Hardest Problems with Customers: Grannis leads the Office of the CTO (OCTO), a team he jokingly calls “the nerdy Navy SEALs.” They tackle highly complex, unsolved customer challenges that can’t be addressed by existing products. Rather than building solutions in isolation, they co-create alongside customers. They start with business outcomes and design backward.
• Multi-Modality and Multi-Agent Systems Are the Future: Looking ahead, Grannis predicts that multi-modal AI, i.e. models that process images, text, speech, and even scent, will become the standard. He also foresees a shift from single-function agents to “agentic workflows” powered by multiple orchestrated AI agents. Google is prototyping orchestration with projects like Astra, that signal a future where AI is not only intelligent but contextually aware and collaborative.

The Big Quote: “People . . . spend a lot of time just trying to take a PDF and analyze it. It seems very true. It is a pain . . I think that’s one reason why a NotebookLM or a product like that has been so popular because it really attacks like the heart of what people hate doing at work. [AI] puts them in the driver’s seat. They can ask questions, they can do analysis.”

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Inside SAP Business Network

The Big Themes:

• New Organizational Structure: SAP reorganized its internal teams by combining Business Network and Digital Supply Chain into a new unit: Supply Chain Management. While this may sound like internal restructuring, Tony Harris explained that for customers, it signals a major innovation push. A major focus in 2025 will be on supply chain orchestration and supply chain risk — two areas that demand real-time responsiveness and cross-functional collaboration.
• SAP Business Network as a Response to Tariffs and Disruption: With the rise of geopolitical tensions, trade wars, and tariffs, companies need to rapidly adjust their supplier bases. SAP Business Network helps companies respond to such disruptions. If tariffs threaten certain international suppliers, businesses can use SAP Business Network to quickly identify alternative suppliers in unaffected regions or within domestic markets.
• Introducing SAP Business Network Promote Subscription: On the very day of the interview, SAP launched a new subscription service called SAP Business Network Promote, designed specifically for suppliers. This offering helps vendors raise their visibility and connect with global buyers on SAP Business Network. Features include enhanced and verified company profiles, uploading of full product catalogs, and access to AI-powered tools for responding to requests for information (RFIs), improving content, and correcting invoice errors. Suppliers also receive robust data insights.

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Episode 50 | AI Agents in Action

The Big Themes:

• The Rise of 'Agent Ratios': As companies roll out more AI agents, the "agent-to-human ratio" could become a useful AI maturity indicator. Currently, we’re seeing early adoption — with Oracle reporting that only 5–10% of its customers have put agents into production. These early use cases focus on low-risk, easily-automated tasks. It’s a cautious start, but the trajectory is upward. Bonnie points out that once the groundwork is laid, the pace of adoption will likely accelerate, yielding increased productivity.
• Four Smart Questions for Evaluating Enterprise AI Initiatives: To help customers decide whether to adopt AI capabilities, Bonnie offers four key questions: (1) Is it available to me? Not all customers have access to AI features; infrastructure matters. (2) Do I need or want it? Weigh the risk-reward tradeoff, especially in terms of time and internal resources. (3) Is my data protected? Ensure your vendor offers strong governance and compliance support. (4) What is the time to value?
• Knowing When to Leap and When to Wait on AI Adoption: Should companies wait or dive into AI now? Her advice: it depends. If your organization is in a fast-moving, innovation-driven sector, early adoption is essential to stay competitive. Waiting could mean falling behind. But for highly regulated industries or companies unused to rapid tech change, a cautious approach makes sense.

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Intelligent Spend's Power

The Big Themes:

• Enhancing Supply Chain Collaboration and Visibility: Traditional ERP systems, while efficient in automating internal procurement and supply chain processes, are typically confined within the organization's boundaries, leading to disconnects when interacting with suppliers, manufacturers, or carriers. SAP Business Network addresses these challenges by extending end-to-end automation beyond organizational walls. As a result, organizations can build resilient, agile supply chains.
• Driving Tangible Business Outcomes and ROI: Organizations utilizing SAP Business Network experience improvements in operational metrics. Companies have accelerated order delivery by 27% and increased go-to-market speed by 30%. A pharmaceutical company reduced safety stock by nearly 50% due to improved supply chain visibility, while Richmond International, a luxury goods producer, achieved an 82% digitization of purchase orders and cut warehouse receiving efforts by half.
• Leveraging AI and Innovation for Supply Chain Resilience: SAP Business Network empowers organizations to build resilient, adaptive supply chains through innovative technologies and AI-driven insights. By providing visibility not only into direct (tier one) suppliers but also into deeper supply chain tiers (tier two and beyond), the network enables proactive risk management and operational agility. Additionally, SAP’s strategic focus on becoming an AI-first company ensures continuous innovation.

The Big Quote: “SAP Business Network was designed to modernize how companies connect with their trading partners, leveraging AI and configurable business rules to enable seamless transaction exchanges by integrating directly with the back-end systems. SAP Business Network digitizes interactions that previously relied on manual emails, one-off portals and hence we're able to streamline processes and reduce inefficiencies."

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The Big Themes:

• AI and Humans Working Together: Salesforce envisions a future where AI and humans collaborate rather than compete. Rather than replacing human jobs entirely, AI is seen as a tool that enhances human productivity by handling repetitive tasks, improving decision-making, and streamlining workflows. Salesforce’s AI-driven offerings, like Agentforce, are designed to integrate seamlessly with existing systems to empower employees.
• Rapid Adoption of AI Agents: At Dreamforce, Salesforce onboarded over 10,000 companies onto Agentforce in just three days, demonstrating the speed at which AI adoption is occurring. This large-scale deployment suggests that businesses are eager to implement AI-powered solutions that can immediately improve efficiency. Unlike traditional software rollouts, which can take months or even years, Salesforce’s AI systems can be integrated within minutes, allowing companies to see immediate benefits.
• AI’s Future Includes Robotics: Salesforce anticipates that AI will soon extend beyond digital applications and into robotics, enabling automation in physical environments. AI-powered robots could be deployed in manufacturing, logistics, field service, and even household tasks. For instance, AI agents could be embedded in robotic systems that perform maintenance, deliver goods, or assist with healthcare services.

The Big Quote: "Our CEO, Mark Benioff, kind of kidded around in Davos to a room full of CEOs saying, 'Congratulations, you're the last CEOs who ever managed an entirely human workforce . . . the punch line is, going forward, there's going to be AI and humans working together to help customers on every company around the world."

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The Big Themes:

• Rapid Evolution in Enterprise AI & Cloud Technologies: The pace of AI-driven change in enterprise software is accelerating, making it essential for companies to keep up with frequent updates and enhancements. Major vendors like SAP, Workday, and Oracle are rapidly evolving their AI capabilities, offering new tools and features to meet growing business demands. Companies that fail to adapt risk falling behind as competitors leverage AI for efficiency and innovation.
• The Databricks Breakup Prediction Example: A compelling illustration of AI’s potential came from Databricks’ origin story: an attempt to predict relationship breakups based on digital footprints. There's a fundamental AI challenge — single-source data (e.g. judging only by a single social media page in the breakup predication example) is insufficient for accurate predictions. Instead, AI requires comprehensive, multi-source data aggregation to generate meaningful insights. This principle is now applied in enterprise software.
• The Growing Importance of AI-Powered Business Suites: A key takeaway from recent developments is the increasing importance of AI-first, suite-first strategies. SAP, Workday, and Oracle are all prioritizing integrated AI across their application ecosystems, making AI a core component rather than a peripheral feature. This shift reflects growing customer demand for intelligent automation, predictive analytics, and enhanced decision-making across business functions.

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• Validated Partner Status Enhances Client Confidence and Outcomes: Infosys' achievement of becoming an SAP-validated partner for RISE with SAP ensures that Infosys provides a predictable, standardized, and scalable approach to cloud ERP transformations. Clients gain clarity on transition strategies, enabling them to adopt clean core principles and maintain differentiation in their business processes. This rigorous partnership offers assurance about time, cost, and risk in transformation projects.
• AI-Driven Solutions and Industry-Specific Playbooks Add Value: Infosys leverages AI-first approaches and solutions, such as Infosys Cobalt and Topaz, to drive client transformations. By focusing on industry-specific playbooks and workflows, Infosys reimagines business processes, such as order-to-cash, with AI-driven efficiency. The use of 40+ AI-infused accelerators enables rapid adoption and delivers measurable benefits, like enhanced customer satisfaction and reduced errors.
• The Critical Role of SAP’s Business Technology Platform (BTP): SAP’s BTP plays a vital role in helping clients maintain clean core principles while allowing unique business workflows to operate independently. Infosys supports this transition by building customer-specific solutions on SAP BTP. For example, an electric utility company reduced billing errors by 30% and enhanced customer satisfaction through predictive insights enabled by Infosys’ intelligent customer insights solution built on BTP.

The Big Quote: “We are leveraging AI for the cloud ERP implementation by embedding AI in the various services we deliver to clients, whether it is code generation, whether it is knowledge acquisition, whether it is using more nuanced industry solutions . . . so that it is leading to improved quality, higher productivity and accelerated timeline for execution."

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