Coaches on a Mission

Coaches on a Mission

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Coaches on a Mission episodes

  • 237. Geraldine Learns to Sell a New Offer in One Week

    Most actors second-guess themselves in auditions, but Geraldine wants a launch strategy that actually gets her new program for performers off the ground.

    Geraldine Rojas is a mindset and career coach for performers. She came to this session with a new collaboration, a new program, and a clear need: how do you fill those first crucial seats when your launch numbers are nowhere near your target?

    Geraldine and I mapped out a focused launch plan using personal outreach and targeted email strategy, no chasing thousands of leads, just deepening relationships with the warm audience she already has. We worked through her real worry: does direct outreach still matter, or is it too much for a small team? By the end, Geraldine walked away with a concrete action plan and a sense of relief about how to tackle both the two-day intensive and the eight-week program without burning herself out.

    Let me highlight the launch strategy Geraldine and I put together in this conversation.

    If you want to know how to handle the awkward silence after "Do you have any questions about the program?", you'll hear Geraldine's honest reaction and the exact script I suggest so you never get stuck in follow-up limbo.

    Key Takeaways

    • Personal Outreach Still Works: Rather than defaulting to big email campaigns, start by contacting your warmest leads directly. It builds trust and often takes the same amount of time as writing mass emails.

    • Clarify the Program Audience and Problem: Get specific about who your program is for and what problem it solves so your sales emails and outreach sound personal, not generic.

    • Divide and Conquer with Your Co-Host: Geraldine and her collaborator split their lead list based on who has the stronger existing connection, making personal invitations feel more authentic and targeted.

    • Match Email Strategy to Buyer Types: Craft sales emails for thinkers, feelers, followers, and list-makers so every type of buyer on your list hears in a way that speaks to them.

    • Seed the Next Offer Inside Your Program: Mention the eight-week follow-up early and clearly during the two-day event. Set up expectations up front and use live calls to highlight what's possible.

    Timestamps & Key Topics

    [00:00] Dallas introduces Geraldine's coaching business and new collaboration challenge
    [03:01] Identify warm leads and discuss program audience
    [05:06] Clarify what performers struggle with and the result the program offers
    [07:11] Map out the funnel from free webinar to paid intensive to eight-week program
    [08:39] Stress the impact of one-to-one outreach vs. mass marketing
    [12:07] Geraldine and Dallas break down how to split and contact leads
    [13:46] Create voice memo invitations and handle unresponsive contacts
    [16:06] Provide scripts for hard "no" and non-responsive leads
    [20:06] Switch to broader email outreach and discuss messaging differences
    [21:30] Sequence emails for different buyer profiles
    [25:55] Plan for closing the cart and optimizing the launch window
    [30:14] Discuss limitations, priorities, and what not to add to the launch
    [31:13] Frame and pitch the eight-week program from inside the two-day event
    [36:00] Brainstorm meaningful incentives for fast action enrollment

    CONNECT WITH GERALDINE ROJAS:

    INSTAGRAM: @solifecoach
    WEBSITE: geraldinerojas.com

    Subscribe to The Audition Method for newsletter and resources - https://auditionmethod.thinkific.com/

    41 min
  • 236. Ash McDonald Helps Me Unpack My Instagram Resistance

    Dallas spent the last year circling the Instagram question: quit it or recommit. Turns out the real problem with her social media strategy was hiding underneath her resistance.

    Ash McDonald is a business therapist who believes ambition isn't something women ever need to apologize for. She helps high-achieving entrepreneurs navigate the psychology behind success, burnout, self-trust, and sustainable growth, and she's the host of the Shamelessly Ambitious podcast. Ash brings her honest, no BS approach to coaching as she sits in the expert’s chair and guides Dallas through an overdue conversation.

    Dallas built three six-figure businesses and knows every strategy in the book, but felt stuck between not quitting Instagram and not really using it. Ash helped Dallas see how full self-expression, emotional bandwidth, and a clear structure could make marketing feel joyful again. By the end, Dallas got the clarity and practical next step she needed: design a 60-day experiment to answer real questions about social media, instead of looping on an ill-defined yes or no.

    Here's what Ash helped Dallas work through.

    When Dallas names the real reason she avoids turning on her camera, Ash's response shows her the problem was never Instagram.

    Key Takeaways

    • Indecision Is a Decision: Avoiding a choice keeps you “safe,” but you end up stuck in a frustrating loop that drains energy and clarity. Gathering real data through a time-bound experiment gives you enough data to decide.

    • Self-Expression Matters in Social Media: When your content feels like busywork, you’re likely missing the spark of creative expression that drew you to coaching in the first place. A better question to ask yourself is "How can I share what feels true for me?"

    • Capacity Has Two Layers: It’s easy to blame your calendar, but marketing that drains you often points to an emotional cost, like discomfort with visibility or aging. Track both your schedule and your feelings to avoid burnout and actually enjoy the process.

    • Use Micro Experiments to Test Strategy: Committing to set experiments, like trying different content formats for a limited time, makes it easier to find your own answers rather than judging yourself for not following some externally imposed plan.

    • Self-Compassion Is a Business Asset: Naming what feels vulnerable and treating yourself like you would your own daughter (or a client) lets you show up for both your business and your life in a way that actually feels sustainable.

    Timestamps & Key Topics

    [00:00] Dallas shares her Instagram struggle and introduces Ash McDonald
    [03:13] Ash frames the real issue behind indecision
    [07:18] Dallas names the all-or-nothing mindset behind her social media stall.
    [10:13] Real talk about aging, visibility, and emotional cost
    [13:33] Dallas describes “dance church” as a metaphor for living fully
    [17:32] Ash reframes social media as a creative stage
    [20:22] The experiment: how to test what actually works for you
    [26:11] Gathering evidence instead of just theorizing
    [31:08] Tracking data: closed loops, feedback, and feeling enlivened
    [36:07] How emotional bandwidth plays into burnout
    [41:33] Practical self-compassion as a business tool
    [44:22] The assignment: design a 60-day social media experiment
    [46:55] Micro experiments and redefining success criteria
    [49:05] Building self-trust in business decisions
    [50:12] Where to connect with Ash and wrap-up

    CONNECT WITH ASH MCDONALD:
    WEBSITE: https://ashmcdonaldmentoring.com/
    INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/ashmcdonald/

    Download The Soundcheck (https://ashmcdonaldmentoring.com/soundcheck) for 18 hand-picked podcast episodes designed to help ambitious women feel less exhausted, more confident, and more like themselves again.

    53 min
  • 235. Arthur Troubleshoots Marketing Without Overpromising Outcomes

    Navigating how to sell coaching when your clients want external results but what you actually deliver is deep inner work is Arthur's biggest marketing challenge.

    Arthur Patton-Hock helps pre- and postdoctoral historians and humanist scholars create opportunities in and outside of academia. He came to this session wrestling with the gap between what his clients think they want (concrete job outcomes) and what truly makes the difference (how they relate to themselves and their materials).

    Arthur wondered how to talk about the tangible, “resume-building” side of coaching without overpromising or minimizing the critical mindset shifts his clients need. We walked through a real-world framework for rewriting your coaching offers and marketing so they appeal to results-driven clients—and still keep you honest. Arthur left with a litmus test for marketing that does both.

    Let me highlight what Arthur and I worked through in this conversation.

    We ran into a wall when Arthur described how scholars obsess over landing a job, but then panic if you talk about “inner steadiness.” Watch for how we built a messaging checklist that fits both mindsets, and track what happened when Arthur realized he was already offering practical outcomes, he just wasn’t naming them out loud.

    Key Takeaways

    • Sell the Concrete Outcome (Honestly): Naming the tangible actions you do with clients (like reviewing CVs or mapping a networking plan) matters, but using language like “designed to” sets accurate expectations and keeps you in integrity as a coach.

    • Make Inner Work Tangible: Connect the dots between mindset shifts and practical benefits. When you name how confidence and self-trust impact job applications, you turn an abstract promise into something clients will pay for.

    • Use a Marketing Litmus Test: Every sales page, email, or post gets checked for three elements: a case for inner work, a clear tangible action, and a realistic intended outcome. This keeps your messaging honest and magnetic.

    • Narrate Your Limits (and Why): Clients appreciate when you clearly state what you can’t promise up front. This transparency builds trust and sets you apart from competitors making wild guarantees.

    • Tailor Your Content Formula: You can co-create content with AI, but always review it for specificity and add your story. A checklist helps you remember to translate mindset hacks into practical tips scholars actually value.

    Timestamps & Key Topics

    [00:00] Arthur outlines his work with historians and humanists
    [03:10] Arthur describes his two-track approach: tactics and strategy (mindset)
    [05:12] Dallas reframes why selling inner work is so hard
    [08:34] Naming promises vs. outcomes in a coaching offer
    [11:17] Dallas’s example from coaching actors with non-guaranteed outcomes
    [13:24] They analyze how to state the “goal” without overpromising
    [15:22] Arthur and Dallas outline the three-part messaging litmus test
    [18:07] Arthur discusses discomfort giving direct advice and accountability
    [20:04] Dallas shares tactical language for describing coaching benefits
    [22:17] Arthur tries his LinkedIn post using the new framework
    [24:10] They add tangible steps to mindset-focused content
    [25:55] Dallas assigns an action item: run all welcome emails through the checklist
    [27:14] Arthur recognizes he’s more concrete than he thought
    [30:11] Building prompts for AI-written content that cover all points
    [32:11] Arthur tests his new “what I do” statement out loud
    [35:38] They check the dream client power statement against the checklist
    [37:19] Arthur commits to updating his welcome email sequence and content formula
    [39:08] Dallas explains how “narration” filters out the wrong-fit clients

    CONNECT WITH ARTHUR PATTON-HOCK:

    WEBSITE: https://www.arthurpattonhock.com/
    LINKEDIN: linkedin.com/in/arthur-patton-hock

    Get Arthur's weekly newsletter, "The Inner CV" at arthurpattonhock.com.

    43 min
  • 234. Megan Stops Over-Explaining and Streamlines Her Offer Suite

    Megan wants to restructure her signature offer, but she’s stuck on how to package, price, and launch it so her neurodivergent coaching clients actually finish the journey.

    My guest is Megan Dowd, who helps enthusiastic overthinkers realign their business with the human behind it so they can understand their work deeply enough to stop overexplaining and firehosing potential clients out of a sale, without losing the nuance that makes their work unique. Megan came to The Hive after becoming a parent and navigating late-in-life ADHD diagnosis. Her goal was to reset her business model and find a sustainable way to serve clients who process differently.

    Megan came in with a strong vision for a multi-phase coaching framework, but struggled with how to chop it up into different offers, what to name each phase, and how to get clients from start to finish. I helped Megan untangle the pieces and together we designed a simple, streamlined signature program. One that lets her clients move at their own pace through foundational 1:1 work, group coaching, and into an ongoing membership, all while honoring her bandwidth and her audience. Most importantly, Megan walked away feeling clear and excited rather than overwhelmed by logistics and money worries.

    Let me highlight what Megan and I accomplished in this conversation.

    Ever wondered what to do when your signature system feels like too much for clients but you can’t see how to break it up? Pay attention to our back-and-forth about when to let the client defer joining a group cohort and why I advise against forcing multi-month commitments just to make your program “sticky.”

    Key Takeaways

    • Phase Your Signature Program: Instead of juggling multiple offers, package your coaching system as a single program, divided into 1:1, group, and community phases. This helps both you and your clients stay focused on real progress without decision fatigue.

    • Only Sell What Works For Everyone: When your method requires foundational work before clients are ready for group sessions, bundle those steps so everyone enters group work equipped and on the same page. Skipping this creates confusion and extra sales work for you.

    • Let Clients Move at Their Pace: Build flexibility into your program by allowing clients to defer group participation or take self-guided steps during waiting periods, so they never feel rushed or left behind.

    • Memberships Should Feel Optional, Not Trapping: Rather than locking people into minimum terms, make the ongoing membership opt-in after their core work is complete. Lower-priced, cancel-any-time models keep people longer and reduce friction.

    • Client Support Needs Boundaries: Too much access to you can actually slow client growth. Instead, set frameworks for on-call support and be clear about when and how clients should use your expertise for copy tweaks and feedback.

    Timestamps & Key Topics

    [00:00] Dallas introduces Megan and her mission to help overthinkers
    [02:25] Megan shares why The Hive helps her manage ADHD and chronic pain
    [04:44] Discussion of motherhood, late ADHD diagnosis, and needing a business reset
    [05:55] Megan describes her five-step signature framework
    [10:07] Dallas breaks down each step for clarity and alignment
    [12:35] Megan shares the ideal way to deliver each phase (1:1, group, membership)
    [15:50] Discussing why the dream version feels unrealistic without an audience
    [18:20] Dallas pitches combining all phases into one signature program
    [23:05] Tackling Megan’s resistance to a single offer and pricing concerns
    [31:08] Dallas outlines a cohort model for group work with flexible entry
    [33:23] Megan refines the process: allow clients to defer group participation
    [36:40] They address how to move clients from group to community phase
    [41:27] Boundaries around on-call copy editing and support limits
    [46:40] Dallas coaches Megan on how too much support can backfire
    [49:35] Setting expectations for the final membership phase
    [50:23] Megan’s next steps: capacity math and support sweet spots
    [51:03] Dallas and Megan share their personal takeaways from the process

    CONNECT WITH MEGAN DOWD:

    INSTAGRAM: @withmegandowd
    WEBSITE: withmegandowd.com

    Sign up for Megan's newsletter at https://withmegandowd.com/.

    54 min
  • 233. Rebecca Builds a Referral Movement (Not Just Another Affiliate Program)

    Rebecca wants to build an affiliate marketing program for her group coaching offer, but she refuses to settle for a typical, transactional approach.

    Rebecca Pickens helps fiction and memoir writers transform finished or almost-finished drafts into stronger, more resonant books by teaching them how to think like a developmental editor. Today, she's looking for practical coaching around scaling her SEE program with affiliate marketing in a way that fits writers, not just another sales scheme.

    Rebecca came in with great momentum from her spring launch but could see that constantly promoting to her own list had its limits. Together, we mapped out how she could build a meaningful affiliate program that’s both motivating for partners and rooted in authentic relationships, not just payouts. By the end, Rebecca left with a clear incentive structure and a practical launch plan that fits the slower, relationship-driven pace of the writing world.

    Let me highlight what Rebecca and I accomplished in this conversation.

    Pay attention to the moment Rebecca asks if VIP days actually motivate her partners, and how we turn that question into a flexible prize structure.

    Key Takeaways

    • Design Affiliate Programs for Community: Instead of cold outreach, invite a small group of values-aligned partners who support writers at different stages, create a group agreement, and nurture cross-promotion.

    • Set Affiliate Prizes for Real Motivation: Don't just offer commissions—layer in things like club membership, newsletter spotlights, visibility opportunities, and add cash prizes or a VIP day to reward real results.

    • Simplify Launch Calendars to Avoid Burnout: Start confirming affiliates early, allow for a two-week webinar promo window, and create materials for both event and post-event moves so partners can promote in their own way.

    • Clarify Metrics So You Don't Fantasize: Expect a 1-3 percent webinar signup rate from partner lists and a 10 percent sales call conversion. Set your registration and call numbers up front to stay grounded.

    • Choose Prizes That Actually Fit Your Partners: If a VIP day isn’t a win for everyone, let the top affiliate choose between that or a cash prize to keep things motivating and simple.

    Timestamps & Key Topics

    [00:00] Dallas opens with gratitude and introduces Rebecca's work
    [02:29] Rebecca shares her transformation since joining The Hive and Power Groups
    [04:07] Rebecca names her goal: an affiliate program that stands out
    [06:13] Rebecca describes the type of affiliate connections she's seeking
    [08:48] Dallas explains what motivates strong affiliate campaigns
    [10:06] They brainstorm a collaborative affiliate community, not just transactions
    [12:30] Dallas shares her own affiliate program's prize tiers as an example
    [15:57] Rebecca wonders about prize ideas workable for writers and industry partners
    [17:49] Club membership, newsletter features, and tiered bonuses take shape
    [19:15] They discuss when and how to offer cash versus service prizes
    [21:24] Dallas gives practical guardrails so offer tiers don’t get out of hand
    [26:31] Rebecca and Dallas nail down the launch promo timeline avoiding Labor Day pitfalls
    [32:31] They clarify realistic metrics for affiliate campaigns so Rebecca has a clear goal
    [36:41] Dallas reframes the “overwhelm” fear and gives tactical copy advice
    [38:10] Rebecca confirms next steps and gets bonus access to Dallas’s toolkit for bundles

    CONNECT WITH REBECCA PICKENS:

    INSTAGRAM: @rebeccapickensbookcoach
    WEBSITE: rebeccapickens.com

    Sign up to receive Rebecca's weekly newsletter (https://rebecca-pickens-coaching.kit.com/freenewsletter) to get a feel for how she serves writers in her community.

    43 min
  • 232. Fatima Learns to Ask for the Sale (and Feels Safe Doing It)

    Fatima feels stuck turning her loyal colon hydrotherapy clients into coaching clients, even though she knows they need more than just the physical work.

    My guest is Fatima Lowe-Williams, a poop coach who helps people have the best poops of their lives every single day. After years running a brick-and-mortar colon hydrotherapy practice, Fatima added health and life coaching to her toolkit during the pandemic. Now she’s back in the clinic, weaving together both worlds and wants a graceful way to invite her colonic clients into deeper coaching work without feeling pushy or awkward.

    Fatima has always connected deeply with her clients in the colonic room. Yet when it comes to asking them to step into coaching, she finds herself treating the ask as an afterthought. We dug into where this hesitation comes from and rewired her approach to sales as an act of genuine service not a burden. At the end, Fatima mapped out a concrete pilot offer and left with a simple, actionable plan for enrolling her first coaching clients.

    Let me highlight what Fatima and I uncovered and built together in this conversation.

    Notice when Fatima realizes that her struggle to ask for the sale is the same pattern she sees in her own parenting—and what she decides to do differently, starting tomorrow.

    Key Takeaways

    • Sales as an Act of Service: Fatima realized that not inviting clients into coaching actually does them a disservice, since her expertise reaches far beyond colonics and helps people achieve lasting gut health.

    • Start With the Easiest Next Step: Rather than overcomplicate her new offer, Fatima designed a 90-day pilot program using audio support and a few focused goals, so she can test her model and serve clients right away.

    • Frame the Ask as a Gift: Fatima reframed her invitation not as a favor to herself, but as a way to gift her clients deeper transformation and healing.

    • Let the Business Heal Old Patterns: By linking her reluctance to ask for the sale back to her childhood, Fatima saw her business as a place to practice and heal old fears in a safe environment.

    • Simple Invitations Work Best: A short, personal audio message to her client list is all Fatima needs to invite her best-fit people into the new hybrid coaching offer.

    Timestamps & Key Topics

    [00:00] Fatima returns to The Hive and shares her brick-and-mortar story
    [05:10] Describes challenge of blending coaching and colonics gracefully
    [07:55] Dallas reframes the offer as a lifestyle transformation
    [12:02] Fatima recognizes her “optional ask” pattern from parenting
    [15:10] Discusses healing the fear of asking and linking it to childhood
    [18:13] Dallas proposes using business as a playground to practice bold asks
    [24:06] Paints the future vision: colonics and coaching go hand in hand
    [27:52] Shapes a 90-day program blending colonics, coaching, and simple delivery
    [31:56] Fatima gets permission to keep her audio-based offer simple
    [34:45] Dallas and Fatima script the reach-out for enrolling her first pilot clients
    [40:04] Fatima commits to the new outreach plan and names her emotional shift

    CONNECT WITH FATIMA LOWE-WILLIAMS:

    INSTAGRAM: @thequeentofthethrone
    WEBSITE: fatimawilliams.com

    Get Fatima's Crap Chat newsletter at www.fatimawilliams.com

    43 min
  • 231. Claire Stops Hiding and Sells Her Offers

    Claire wants to sell to her engaged email list, but every time she gets close to pitching, self-doubt stalls her out.

    My guest is Claire Fishback, who helps fiction writers that have tried it all but still can’t finish their novels. She guides them to ditch rigid rules, rediscover the fun in writing, and finally complete their books.

    Claire came into this conversation questioning whether she really delivers on her signature methodology, the Creative Goblin Way, and why it feels so uncomfortable to sell her coaching. Together, we deconstructed her doubts, mapped four practical ways to pitch in her newsletter without losing her voice, and maybe best of all helped her see that not selling actually does her audience a disservice.

    Let me highlight what Claire and I worked through in this conversation.

    You might be surprised at the moment Claire realizes withholding an offer is actually unfair to her readers and the blunt language I use to call it out.

    Key Takeaways

    • Let Selling Feel Uncomfortable: Waiting for sales to feel “natural” keeps you stuck. Feeling energy, even if it’s nerves, means you’re on the right track with your coaching business.

    • Use Four Ways to Sell in Newsletters: Rotate between header, footer, commercial break, and solo-pitch emails to invite people into your offers without losing your unique style.

    • Signature Systems Aren’t Step-by-Step Promises: Your coaching methodology is a flexible framework that offers clarity but doesn’t lock you and your clients into a rigid order.

    • Transparency Builds Trust: Narrating awkward transitions (“commercial break” style) between stories and calls-to-action in emails is more honest and effective than trying to be slick.

    • Unsubscribes Signal Growth, Not Failure: Losing subscribers after promoting your offer is a good filter. Preferring a smaller, buying audience over a large, passive list is a smart coaching business mindset.

    Timestamps & Key Topics

    [00:00] Claire shares her history in The Hive and struggle to sell
    [04:15] Doubt rises after clarifying her signature methodology
    [07:08] Dallas reframes client expectations about perfection
    [09:30] Claire’s experiment with vulnerability increases engagement
    [10:22] Dallas calls out fear of selling and permission to be “unnatural”
    [13:26] Signature system as framework, not a contract
    [14:26] Breaking the rules for newsletter storytelling and sales
    [18:15] Dallas outlines four tactical ways to pitch in email
    [21:33] When and how to place calls-to-action in newsletters
    [23:56] Planning solo promo emails without apology
    [26:40] Why unsubscribes don’t mean failure for a coaching business
    [28:21] Building sales habits into the newsletter workflow
    [30:36] Converting challenge participants into paying clients
    [33:07] Using your doubts and struggles as direct email content

    CONNECT WITH CLAIRE FISHBACK:
    INSTAGRAM: @mrsfish2009
    WEBSITE: clairefishback.com
    Get mini-author coaching, creative inspiration, and pep talks in your inbox at claireLfishback.com

    35 min
  • 230. Christina Designs a List Growth Plan That Fits Her Life

    Christina wants to grow her email list but has very limited time for marketing, so we mapped out a realistic system to bring in steady subscribers.

    My guest is Christina Claytor, a follow-through coach who helps capable but frustrated people finally live up to their own promises and stop breaking commitments to themselves. Christina joined The Hive because she wanted more direction and a sustainable pace for growing her online coaching business part time.

    Christina came looking for a simple, consistent approach to list building that fits her five hour work weeks, avoids social media, and doesn’t burn her out with big projects like bundles and surges. We broke down her tendency to overthink, addressed her imposter syndrome around pitching, and created a step-by-step plan for regular list growth that maximizes her tiny windows of time. By the end, Christina walked away focused, motivated, and ready to make lead magnet swaps and monthly workshops a regular routine instead of an overwhelming project.

    Let me highlight the simple, repeatable system Christina and I mapped out in this conversation.

    Listen for the moment Christina worries that she isn’t “legit enough” to pitch herself to local organizations and pay attention to the shift that happens once we talk through the real value of lived experience.

    Key Takeaways

    • Break List Building Into Monthly Rotations: Splitting the month into weekly tasks, such as pitching, confirming, prepping, then presenting. This makes it possible to grow your list even if you’re working very part time.

    • Lead Magnet Swaps Are High-Impact with Low Effort: Once you have a valuable freebie, partnering with other coaches to share it can bring in subscribers steadily without relying on social media or big launches.

    • Start Local for Practice and Referrals: Offering monthly free workshops at libraries or community centers helps you build skills pitching yourself and can generate referrals, especially when word spreads locally.

    • Value Lived Experience Over Credentials: Your tr

    • ack record helping people counts as expertise. Most clients care about results, not degrees, which frees you from feeling like you have to prove yourself on paper.

    • Gather Enough Data Before You Pivot: Commit to sending at least 15 pitches for both workshops and freebie swaps before making any changes. Otherwise, you’ll quit too soon to see real patterns emerge.

    Timestamps & Key Topics
    [00:00] Christina explains her part-time hours and list-building frustrations
    [04:54] Dallas clarifies Christina’s real business challenge
    [07:47] Christina floats a local workshop idea, then describes her hesitations
    [10:41] Dallas outlines a routine for monthly pitching and delivery
    [14:29] Imposter syndrome and the impact of credential culture from healthcare
    [18:20] Reframing lived experience as expertise
    [22:33] Dallas introduces lead magnet swaps as a list building tool
    [25:12] How to pitch lead magnet swaps quickly and simply
    [28:30] Christina worries about her list size, and why Dallas says shoot your shot
    [31:30] Setting a minimum number of pitches before making changes
    [35:17] Christina feels confident about her new routine for growing her list
    [40:33] Both coaches vent about “rules” that make coaching less practical

    CONNECT WITH CHRISTINA CLAYTOR:

    INSTAGRAM: @followthroughcoaching
    WEBSITE: followthroughcoaching.com

    Get Christina's weekly follow-through tips at followthroughcoaching.com

    42 min
  • 228. Julie Streamlines Client Support Without More Zoom Calls

    Julie Covert wants to scale her writing coaching business, but her hands-on approach and travel lifestyle make traditional group programs tough to pull off.

    Julie turns aspiring writers into excited authors through her Success Signals for Writers system. She helps clients reignite their writing spark, refill their inner ink pot, and avoid common writing pitfalls. Julie came to this call ready to rethink how her 1:1 editorial work could scale, especially with her upcoming plans to travel with her husband on their schooner, where Zoom meetings and set schedules aren’t always an option.

    Julie's biggest challenge is clear: how to keep offering deep, individualized support without getting locked into constant calls or overextending herself. By the end of our conversation, she walked away with an entirely new model—anchored around asynchronous tools and thoughtful process design so she can serve more writers without sacrificing quality (or missing out on her adventure). Julie also discovered how she could introduce group elements in a way that fits her schedule, using voice apps and carefully planned office hours.

    Let me highlight the practical pivots Julie and I mapped out in this conversation.

    Check out the section where we map out a support system for writers using Voxer and calendar automation. There’s a reason Julie is so relieved, and it isn’t just about the tech.

    Key Takeaways

    Automate Accountability With Calendars: Setting up automated email reminders and mapped-out milestones ensures clients keep writing, even when live calls aren’t realistic. Scheduled check-ins can replicate the accountability of regular meetings.

    Leverage Asynchronous Communication Tools: Using apps like Voxer for walkie-talkie style voice communication gives clients real-time feedback without requiring both parties to be online at the same time. This keeps the editorial process moving even with unpredictable schedules.

    Test Group Support With Pop-Up Office Hours: Hosting occasional bonus office hours (rather than strict recurring sessions) brings some group connection and peer interaction without locking yourself into a rigid calendar.

    Bundle Your Signature System as Trainings: Packaging frameworks like the Success Signals for Writers system as pre-recorded trainings makes it easier to support multiple clients at once—and creates new possibilities for group programs later.

    Start Small to Build Confidence: Trying out these changes with a couple of private clients first can help you work out the kinks and adjust your onboarding before rolling new systems out to everyone.

    Timestamps & Key Topics
    [00:00] Julie describes her current 1:1 coaching and editing service structure
    [03:58] Dallas clarifies each phase of Julie’s offer and gets specifics on the workflow
    [09:00] Julie admits how much time a thorough manuscript edit requires
    [10:26] The travel challenge: Julie’s need for a flexible, asynchronous business
    [12:00] Dallas outlines three possible ways to scale: systems, team, clients
    [15:11] Discussion on meeting cadence, accountability, and the emotional support of live coaching
    [18:13] Julie explains her “Success Signals for Writers” framework and how it supports different writing styles
    [19:40] Brainstorming an automated accountability loop with shared calendars and pre-scheduled communication
    [23:35] Introducing Voxer as an asynchronous voice communication tool for coaching
    [27:17] Dallas recommends tech tools (Voxer plug-ins and dictation apps) to streamline client support
    [28:25] Why the “pop-up” office hours model fits for coaches who travel or need greater flexibility
    [31:43] Brainstorming group coaching with asynchronous communication and peer support
    [39:04] Dallas and Julie explore running group pods and group Voxer chats as a scalable model
    [42:48] Wrapping up with Julie’s next steps

    CONNECT WITH JULIE COVERT:

    INSTAGRAM: @juliemcovert
    WEBSITE: HJWords.com

    45 min
  • 229. Christina Switches Up Her Business Model

    Christina Larocco wants to build her business around big ideas, not just coaching services, and she’s wondering whether that’s actually possible or just wishful thinking.

    Christina helps nonfiction writers shaped by years of research wrangle their complicated projects into something sustainable. She joined the Hive searching for more coaching clients, but discovered her true passion is in honoring her identity as a public scholar. After a decade as an academic editor, Christina is ready to center writing, inquiry, and conversation in her work.

    We zoomed in on the challenge at the core of Christina’s next chapter: How do you talk about being an “idea person” when coaching isn’t your main offer? By the end of our coaching session, Christina landed on the “abundance paradox” as the umbrella for her work and found a new language to describe what she actually does, helping other thinkers make meaning in a noisy world. More than that, she left with a menu of concrete ways to monetize her ideas and a simple beta program to test with her existing email list.

    Let me highlight the clarity, strategy, and energy Christina and I uncovered in this conversation.

    Watch what happens when Christina admits she cringes before every email to her list, and see the moment she realizes she’s been solving the same “abundance” problem all along, just on a deeper level.

    Key Takeaways

    • Lead With Your Core Curiosity: When you orient your messaging around what you’re genuinely curious about, like Christina’s “abundance paradox”, you attract engaged followers who share your hunger for big questions.

    • Business Models Beyond Services: Building a sustainable business around ideas is possible by layering multiple income streams like podcast guesting, paid newsletters, workshops, VIP days, and retreats so your creative energy stays high and your revenue feels steady.

    • Use Your List to Test Offers: You don’t need a fully finished product to start. Email your audience and invite a few people into a small beta group to clarify both your messaging and your methodology as you go.

    • Clarify Your Stance, Not Just Your Resumrying to answer in public.

    • Find the Right Village Square: Instead of chasine: It’s easy to talk about credentials, but what actually draws listeners and clients is knowing what you believe and the questions you’re tg “success formulas” on generic platforms, look for podcasts, newsletters, and communities where your people already gather and join the conversation there.

    Timestamps & Key Topics
    [00:00] Christina’s bio and what she does for nonfiction writers
    [01:44] Success with Bundlicious, but struggle with finding right clients
    [04:25] Dallas reframes unsubscribes as wins for both parties
    [05:32] Christina questions what kind of work truly lights her up
    [08:50] Defining the challenge: want to build an audience around ideas
    [10:01] Looking to Jenny Odell and Katherine May as models
    [14:06] Dallas asks Christina to clarify her stance and curiosity
    [15:42] Christina identifies the “abundance paradox” as a central theme
    [21:07] Dallas outlines idea-driven business models: podcast, workshops, newsletter
    [26:03] Options for monetizing ideas such as VIP days, retreats, courses, memberships
    [38:50] Dallas gives Christina a next-step experiment to find her best offer
    [44:50] Summary of how clarity and simple action beats waiting for a polished plan

    CONNECT WITH CHRISTINA:
    Sign up for Christina's newsletter, What to Do with What You Know, at https://christina-larocco.beehiiv.com/.

    47 min

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