Kate Senisi and Annie Grossman founded School For The Dogs together in 2011. What a decade it's been! Kate, who oversees training and staff at School For The Dogs, is quite busy and can be hard to pin down. But, when trapped in a car with Annie, she agreed to record a casual conversation about the business, the specific challenges faced by city dogs and their owners, and SFTD's unique offerings. She also offered her tempered and reasonable views on two topics about which Annie tends to get highly fired up: Cesar Millan and shock collars. 

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Played in this episode: 

Millan discusses shows ABC 7 Chicago 

https://abc7.ws/2TKmQl7

10 reasons to watch Better Human Better Dog, from Cesar MIllan's Twitter feed

https://twitter.com/cesarmillan/status/1421160078812479489

Previous episode mentioned: 

Terrible dog training, sugarcoated with New Age woo: Cesar Millan is back on TV

https://anchor.fm/dogs/episodes/Terrible-dog-training--sugarcoated-with-New-Age-woo-Cesar-Millan-is-back-on-TV-e158cl8

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Partial Transcript

Annie:

I am in a position where I have a lot of friends, colleagues, employees, who are amazing dog trainers and really smart, interesting people. And I have tried to get them to come on the podcast, and I’ve had a lot of trouble doing so.

Now I don’t think that’s because they don’t like me or they don’t like the podcast. I think it’s because not everyone is as comfortable talking publicly about, I don’t know, things in general and maybe dog training in particular in this way that you’re doing when you’re doing a podcast where you’re sort of speaking to an unknown audience of people in what is sort of an intimate way, because we’re going straight into your ears.

And a lot of these people who I respect and and love and I’ve learned from are very careful people who don’t necessarily have the time to put together all the notes and thoughts that they might like to have, I guess, on hand before talking to me for a recorded conversation for the podcast.

And, you know, it’s something that I think is both a blessing and a curse in my person, is I think I generally lay things out, lay out the things that I’m thinking. I am not a big plan ahead-er. I am rather impulsive. And I think all of these qualities make it possible to produce a podcast.

But also you know, like I talked about last episode, it can leave me feeling rather vulnerable, because I know that I am being very honest about my thoughts and feelings about things, and not everyone is gonna agree with me. But I believe, often, in not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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