In our 54th podcast, one of us is caffeine-free, the other is virtually insensible on the stuff. Ethical and moral discussion moves almost imperceptibly from Prince Charles's detox tincture to the quality of placard at the Luton anti-war protests; from monkey vengeance to sheepdog love; from the wheelie bin police to reincarnation as a bee; from just about anything to Richard's tour dates. Andrew remains in a Zen-like stated of decaffeinated calm throughout.