On this episode of COLORS, we’re joined by John Echohawk—a citizen of the Pawnee Nation and the co-founder/longtime executive director of the Native American Rights Fund, the legal backbone behind hard-won advances in tribal sovereignty, treaty rights, voting rights, and natural resources for more than five decades. He’s often described as the “Thurgood Marshall of Indian law.”  We'll speak to him about the challenges the Native American community has faced in the new Trump Administration.

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He was adopted as a baby—his roots, a mystery. Years later, a search began… And what he found changed everything. Darren Brown’s journey into his Native American heritage is raw, real, and unforgettable. And he's back with part two of his story. This is Colors—where identity isn’t just explored, it’s reclaimed. 

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 In this compelling episode, we sit down with literary scholar and author Dana A. Williams to explore her new book, Toni at Random. Best known as a Nobel Prize-winning novelist, Toni Morrison also spent over a decade as a formidable editor at Random House—amplifying Black voices, shaping cultural memory, and changing the face of American publishing. Williams reveals how Morrison championed iconic figures like Angela Davis, Muhammad Ali, and Toni Cade Bambara, and how her behind-the-scenes work helped lay the foundation for a more inclusive literary canon. 

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In this episode we talk with newly inducted SPJ Hall of Fame journalist Richard Prince—a legendary voice in American media and a tireless advocate for diversity, equity, and inclusion. From his groundbreaking column “Journal-isms” to decades of work spotlighting issues of representation in the newsroom and beyond, Prince has shaped the conversation on race and media like few others. 

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 Colors: A Dialogue on Race in America is a fearless, deeply human podcast that cuts through noise and cliché to confront the raw realities of race, identity, and power in America. Hosted by veteran journalist JJ Green, Colors blends investigative depth with emotional resonance—featuring unfiltered conversations with voices often ignored or silenced. Each episode is a mosaic of lived experience, expert insight, and cultural truth, capturing the complex, sometimes painful, always urgent stories that shape our national identity. From the streets of Minneapolis to the halls of national security, Colors doesn’t just document America’s racial landscape—it amplifies it with clarity, compassion, and unflinching honesty. This is storytelling with purpose. Journalism with soul. A call to listen, to learn, and to do better. 

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"Five years ago, America was in anguish. The killing of George Floyd didn’t just break hearts—it broke something deeper. It shattered illusions. It exposed truths that were too often ignored, too easily silenced.

Out of that pain, Colors was born.

Two friends—one Black, one White—looked each other in the eye and said, We have to talk. Not later. Not when it’s convenient. Now.

We launched this podcast not as experts, but as witnesses—witnesses to injustice, to discomfort, and to the urgent need for a real, human dialogue on race in America.

Chris Core joins me to talk about where things stand five years after we started this podcast. 

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They say first impressions matter — but they’re not always right. You’ve heard the phrase, “don’t judge a book by its cover,” and it holds true far beyond the pages of a novel. Someone’s appearance, voice, or background might tell part of their story, but never the whole truth. The quietest person in the room may have the loudest courage. The worn-out cover may hold the richest content. In a world quick to label and divide, taking the time to look deeper isn’t just kind — it’s wise. Because beneath the surface, every person carries a story you haven’t heard yet. This is the story of Dr. Wayne Curtis, a man who came up the rough side of the mountain.

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Susan Goodier, a white female resident of New York and New Mexico is struggling with the resurgence of "racism". So she's taking action. She shares what she's doing to contribute to improving the situation. 

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Gretchen Sorin is distinguished professor and director of the Cooperstown Graduate Program of the State University of New York and the author of Driving While Black. She has some deep concerns about where America's racial scene is today.

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Larry Pfeiffer, Larry Pfeiffer is the director of the Hayden Center, overseeing its development, operations, and activities. He's a former National Security Agency  Executive and talks to us about a very unfortunate anti-DEI incident at NSA during Black History month of this year. 

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