Michael Grinston is biracial. He's struggled with his identity his "whole life". Now, he's seized his opportunity as the Army's most senior enlisted solider to push and promote racial equality and understanding.

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Rick "Doc" Walker, was a Rose Bowl champion and a Super Bowl champion -a proven winner. Now he's a spokesman for how to win at social and racial justice in the NFL and everyday life.

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Ernie Green talks about his friend John Lewis and the angry white mobs they faced -he and eight other African American students as they integrated Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957 -and Lewis on Bloody Sunday in 1965. He reflects on what they accomplished and the similarities between their efforts and the Black Lives Matter movement today.

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Colin Kaepernick is not talking, but the NFL Network's Steve Wyche, who knows him well, is. He sheds some light on Kaepernick and the massive changes that his kneeling during the national anthem in 2016 reflected -changes the rest of us are just beginning to make, four years later.

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Former Maryland Attorney General Doug Gansler says defunding police departments is a mistake and he details his remedy. Also former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper shares an incredible lesson in race relations -from 1952 that he witnessed first hand -from his mom.

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Journalism pioneer Dorothy Gilliam discusses how we can learn from the past and present to improve race relations for the future.

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Celebrated sports columnist, author and news commentator Christine Brennan predicts drastic changes in US culture as a new generation topples iconic statues, symbols, practices and beliefs.

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Chris and JJ talk to James Brown - CBS Network Broadcaster about how to take advantage of the momentum the nation has, on race relations right now, to promote more dialogue.

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Chris Core is white and JJ Green is black. They're journalists and friends. Almost 30 years ago they launched a radio show, called "Black and White", after the L.A riots, to create a non-judgmental venue for people to talk about race. Now, after George Floyd's death, they're doing it again. Welcome to "Colors".

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Hosts JJ Green and Chris Core discuss the genesis of their new podcast. JJ Green is a reporter at WTOP News in Washington, DC. Chris Core provided commentary for WTOP until his retirement in 2019.

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