The effortlessly charming and cultured Italian comic Luca Cupani, who at some point in his life was more fluent in Latin and in ancient Greek than in English, brought the podcast to a new intellectual level that really challenged your host Kuan-wen to keep up. Renaissance paintings and modern art were casually referenced to and our guest this episode randomly threw away proper Latin phrases rather than made-up Harry Potter words "Expelliarmus!". There was even talks of "cassettes"
Meanwhile, Kuan-wen tried to instill the idea of doing exorcism as a side business in Luca's head and banged on and on about pasta.
Luca shared how he was told he looked more Polish or English than Italian, that the marketing people think real Italians are TOO Italian, how he ultimately achieved English fluency - despite the accent - in his adult life after receiving poorly designed English lessons in middle school. There was also an interesting discussion on Italian comedy punters.
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Episode timeline
00:38 Intro
03:03 Luca's Italian accent as a result of old-fashioned "All grammar, little conversation" teaching
04:31 Luca being more fluent in Latin and ancient Greek
05:31 UK punters asking Luca to "drop" his accent
07:09 Where Luca's blue eyes come from
08:30 Notion of how an Italian should look like (10;38 East Asians looking like characters in Mulan more likely to be cast)
12:38 Luca used to apologise for his accent early on in his comedy career
16:09 Pre-conditioned perspectives; what (some) comedy reviewers expect from foreign comics
18:35 A short discussion that is all about PASTA
19:53 The Italian test: Italians giving so much fuss about pasta (and good food!)
21:10 Differences between Luca performing in English and in Italian
23:17 Differences between UK and Italian comedy audiences
26:30 How Luca re-learned English himself properly in his 20s & 30s and his frustration
29:21 Why Kuan-wen is no longer arsed about perfecting his English pronunciation; how do you pronounce a "HOT DOG"?
30:54 Younger Italians having much lighter accents in English thanks to TV streaming
32:05 Why Silence of the Lambs was translated as Silence of the Innocent People in Italy?
32:51 The non-stop hand gestures
34:08 Luca's multi-layered stage persona and self-deprecating jokes
36:07 Italian Fascism - topics about being Italian that Luca insists on doing
36:41 The pros and cons of the "beautiful" Italian accent
39:21 Luca's 2022 Edinburgh Fringe Festival show
39:35 Luca's social media
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Luca's Instagram and Twitter
Luca's 2022 Edinburgh Fringe Festival show Happy Orphan
Kuan-wen made a reference to a set by Maisie Adam - her French teacher with a think Yorkshire accent. You can find the clip here.
Podcast intro music by @Taigenkawabe
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